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Console text chat discussion
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✭mrskinskull wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »
Check the DCUO videos for how chat can work on a console.mrskinskull wrote: »KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
Every game that has a Chat box has the ability to hide it... This just tells me you are not a MMO gamer and only used to single player console games... Which is the problem... New people to this actually don't know whats good for them or what they are missing out on.
Or maybe you are new to console and have no idea that almost every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only.
Yeah, this guy is one hundred percent correct.
I say call a poll of actual players at the boot screen of ESO.
No biased forum polls skewed and conducted by one side or the other.
I say cater to the actual gamers playing the game.
So many people have claimed they left the game over this matter, I think that means zos should cater to the players actually playing the game, as in the 99 percent of players who didn't even notice the text box status because most people don't want a DMV vision test from across their living room every time some gold farmer wants to move some product.
The text for ESO was enlarged for consoles. The tiny PC text was fine right next to the PC player.
The text box on console would likely end up having to be enlarged about 40 percent from PC as well.
What is that going to look like?
Multiplayer <> MMORPG. Text chat in Killzone or any other FPS? Yeah...no.
FF:ARR and DCUO? Well...it's kinda there by default.
I'm not really sure where games like Destiny fit...but they seem more voice chatty to me for some reason.
The problem with catering to the actual players, is that you lose any perspective around who is leaving and what would keep them engaged.
Pro-text chat guy: Hey ZOS, you know you could expand your player base if you added text chat like those other MMORPGS?
ZOS: Nah, too much like hard work. We'll just cater to the existing player base....who cares about the players who leave or those who want to play but just get put off by the lack of text chat. We don't need their stinking money anyway.
Existing player base? The Existing Player base is asking for this, the rest are casuals. The Vast majority won't reach Veteran Rank 14.
Read your last sentence. The vast majority won't reach vet 14, when text chat actually becomes helpful.
The vast majority are the casuals who will never need text, won't bother with purchasing a keyboard and sacrificing one of the two usbs on a ps4.
There's only two usbs!
One for controller. One for turtle beach thingy.
The developers may be more pragmatic than you give them credit for.
I'm casual and I will buy the next dlc. And the one after that.
No keyboard, cause I'm all about that ( casual customer) base.
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Mirra_Halfelven✭✭✭Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?Mirra Halfelven, Templar Troublemaker
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Dahkoht✭✭✭✭✭mrskinskull wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »
Check the DCUO videos for how chat can work on a console.mrskinskull wrote: »KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Then don't, but other people can do this and would like this.
Give me an option so I dont' have to see all that annoying text scrolling across my screen and I'm in.
Every game that has a Chat box has the ability to hide it... This just tells me you are not a MMO gamer and only used to single player console games... Which is the problem... New people to this actually don't know whats good for them or what they are missing out on.
Or maybe you are new to console and have no idea that almost every console game that supports multiplayer does so with voice chat only.
Yeah, this guy is one hundred percent correct.
I say call a poll of actual players at the boot screen of ESO.
No biased forum polls skewed and conducted by one side or the other.
I say cater to the actual gamers playing the game.
So many people have claimed they left the game over this matter, I think that means zos should cater to the players actually playing the game, as in the 99 percent of players who didn't even notice the text box status because most people don't want a DMV vision test from across their living room every time some gold farmer wants to move some product.
The text for ESO was enlarged for consoles. The tiny PC text was fine right next to the PC player.
The text box on console would likely end up having to be enlarged about 40 percent from PC as well.
What is that going to look like?
Multiplayer <> MMORPG. Text chat in Killzone or any other FPS? Yeah...no.
FF:ARR and DCUO? Well...it's kinda there by default.
I'm not really sure where games like Destiny fit...but they seem more voice chatty to me for some reason.
The problem with catering to the actual players, is that you lose any perspective around who is leaving and what would keep them engaged.
Pro-text chat guy: Hey ZOS, you know you could expand your player base if you added text chat like those other MMORPGS?
ZOS: Nah, too much like hard work. We'll just cater to the existing player base....who cares about the players who leave or those who want to play but just get put off by the lack of text chat. We don't need their stinking money anyway.
Existing player base? The Existing Player base is asking for this, the rest are casuals. The Vast majority won't reach Veteran Rank 14.
Read your last sentence. The vast majority won't reach vet 14, when text chat actually becomes helpful.
The vast majority are the casuals who will never need text, won't bother with purchasing a keyboard and sacrificing one of the two usbs on a ps4.
There's only two usbs!
One for controller. One for turtle beach thingy.
The developers may be more pragmatic than you give them credit for.
I'm casual and I will buy the next dlc. And the one after that.
No keyboard, cause I'm all about that ( casual customer) base.
FIrst , magical invention called bluetooth, that has been used on consoles for a decade now.
Two , anyone who doesn't want to use the text chat , wait for it , doesn't have to , doesn't have to buy anything, they can keep on using the oh so magical and perfect way of voice only.
Only the people who want to use text chat will , and I'm sure that will only be a very few right because EVERYONE LOVES the in game voice only right ?
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✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.1 -
Mirra_Halfelven✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?Mirra Halfelven, Templar Troublemaker
Daggerfall Covenant - PS4 NA
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Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
I rarely see people with flip phones anymore. Im not saying that people should have to use an app out side of the game. Its ZOS that needs to fix this. But smart phones are the norm now.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
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Really if they offer an app I think that would be best for them. They wouldn't have to worry about a chatbox tying up the screen. The only issue for an app to me is that if the game has so many bugs and takes long time to fix how long will bugs on apps take. At the least they could just give everyone an option of either voice or chatbox....that is really all people want now.Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
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Mirra_Halfelven✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
I rarely see people with flip phones anymore. Im not saying that people should have to use an app out side of the game. Its ZOS that needs to fix this. But smart phones are the norm now.
That wasn't really the point I was trying to get at, text chat is a basic feature INCLUDED INGAME in every other MMORPG both PC & console including ESO's own PC/MAC version. Why should the ESO console players have the additonal requirement of a smart phone or tablet for text chat?Mirra Halfelven, Templar Troublemaker
Daggerfall Covenant - PS4 NA
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Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Wow. Didn't even think about the second screen! That's so SMART! No one has thought about..... wait, what? .... Oh yea, that's right..... FFXIV LET'S YOU DO THAT ALREADY.......... ............ so does DCUO. Man, ZOS really messed up this game..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.0 -
Mirra_Halfelven✭✭✭Duragon_Darko wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Wow. Didn't even think about the second screen! That's so SMART! No one has thought about..... wait, what? .... Oh yea, that's right..... FFXIV LET'S YOU DO THAT ALREADY.......... ............ so does DCUO. Man, ZOS really messed up this game.
Ya it's an option which is really nice but, they still have in game chat so you don't have to juggle between them if you dont want to & they aren't required for text chat either.Mirra Halfelven, Templar Troublemaker
Daggerfall Covenant - PS4 NA
PSN: Scooby_6090 -
Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you make no sense they can not just copy and paste text chat into the game it will take way longer to implement a text box into the game then to make a App for players to communicate through.You example makes no sense at all it wouldn't be a console game then woulf it?So i most ask what is you logic behind your statement.
Also your second paragraph makes no sense.Can you please retype it?
I guess your saying that it's easier to just add it back into the game then make a app in reality its not.They have to redo the UI for them to implement it they Can't just flip a switch of press a button and its in that's not the case.If it was am pretty sure they would have press that button to add by now.Also no one will be jumping through hoops most people have smart phones or a tablet or even a computer.Maybe not one good enough to play the PC version but one good enough to download a App or at least go to a web page.Also to download a App takes no time at all it takes less then a minute to download a App.It be faster quicker and easier for more players to use.Trust me You all say what's wrong with having more options this would give you guys more options and you saying no.Your being a hypocrite you say you want more options but when someone post a way for you to have what you you jump on him because its different then what you want.Hav you every used ESOtoolkit they can also add features from that their two makes the game for Console Ayers so much easier.0 -
Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Duragon_Darko wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Wow. Didn't even think about the second screen! That's so SMART! No one has thought about..... wait, what? .... Oh yea, that's right..... FFXIV LET'S YOU DO THAT ALREADY.......... ............ so does DCUO. Man, ZOS really messed up this game.
Ya it's an option which is really nice but, they still have in game chat so you don't have to juggle between them if you dont want to & they aren't required for text chat either.
Yes, but it's so nice to actually buy a game and get OPTIONS. Keyboard, phone, tablet, voice through PSN for hard trials, it's all possible. None of that exists with ESO. Such a shame. Don't know what I'm going to do once I get to vet. Like most PS4 players, this will be a single player game and then be over once vet comes. Could have been so much more, ZOS. You dropped the ball..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.2 -
slipHAZARD✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Duragon_Darko wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Wow. Didn't even think about the second screen! That's so SMART! No one has thought about..... wait, what? .... Oh yea, that's right..... FFXIV LET'S YOU DO THAT ALREADY.......... ............ so does DCUO. Man, ZOS really messed up this game.
Ya it's an option which is really nice but, they still have in game chat so you don't have to juggle between them if you dont want to & they aren't required for text chat either.
Let's just hope for just basic in game text chat then maybe get a second screen option.__---> Just My Opinion <---__
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Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Mighty_oakk wrote: »I wonder how long WoW would of lasted if it was voice chat only
about as long as it takes to get to endgame..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.3 -
SjarexSoul ShrivenI agree that there should be at least an option for chat. Sometimes it is just easier to use the chat for finding people or sales. I dont think that it would change much of the aspects in the game. Especially if it were an option.-The more I play MMORPG's, the more I lose sense of th...............huh?!?
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Mirra_Halfelven✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you make no sense they can not just copy and paste text chat into the game it will take way longer to implement a text box into the game then to make a App for players to communicate through.You example makes no sense at all it wouldn't be a console game then woulf it?So i most ask what is you logic behind your statement.
Also your second paragraph makes no sense.Can you please retype it?
I guess your saying that it's easier to just add it back into the game then make a app in reality its not.They have to redo the UI for them to implement it they Can't just flip a switch of press a button and its in that's not the case.If it was am pretty sure they would have press that button to add by now.Also no one will be jumping through hoops most people have smart phones or a tablet or even a computer.Maybe not one good enough to play the PC version but one good enough to download a App or at least go to a web page.Also to download a App takes no time at all it takes less then a minute to download a App.It be faster quicker and easier for more players to use.Trust me You all say what's wrong with having more options this would give you guys more options and you saying no.Your being a hypocrite you say you want more options but when someone post a way for you to have what you you jump on him because its different then what you want.Hav you every used ESOtoolkit they can also add features from that their two makes the game for Console Ayers so much easier.
Actualy it would be basicly flipping a switch ... text chat was in the console version of ESO till they took it out just before the beta, they have all those UI set-ups & text chat assets just sitting around somewhere on one of thier servers.
They removed it for stupid reasons, the lead console UI dev gave this reason on ESO live as to why they took it out ..."it felt awkward sitting on a couch with a keyboard in my lap" .Mirra Halfelven, Templar Troublemaker
Daggerfall Covenant - PS4 NA
PSN: Scooby_6091 -
Mighty_oakk✭✭✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you make no sense they can not just copy and paste text chat into the game it will take way longer to implement a text box into the game then to make a App for players to communicate through.You example makes no sense at all it wouldn't be a console game then woulf it?So i most ask what is you logic behind your statement.
Also your second paragraph makes no sense.Can you please retype it?
I guess your saying that it's easier to just add it back into the game then make a app in reality its not.They have to redo the UI for them to implement it they Can't just flip a switch of press a button and its in that's not the case.If it was am pretty sure they would have press that button to add by now.Also no one will be jumping through hoops most people have smart phones or a tablet or even a computer.Maybe not one good enough to play the PC version but one good enough to download a App or at least go to a web page.Also to download a App takes no time at all it takes less then a minute to download a App.It be faster quicker and easier for more players to use.Trust me You all say what's wrong with having more options this would give you guys more options and you saying no.Your being a hypocrite you say you want more options but when someone post a way for you to have what you you jump on him because its different then what you want.Hav you every used ESOtoolkit they can also add features from that their two makes the game for Console Ayers so much easier.
Actualy it would be basicly flipping a switch ... text chat was in the console version of ESO till they took it out just before the beta, they have all those UI set-ups & text chat assets just sitting around somewhere on one of thier servers.
They removed it for stupid reasons, the lead console UI dev gave this reason on ESO live as to why they took it out ..."it felt awkward sitting on a couch with a keyboard in my lap" .
Why on earth would you need a keyboard to type, LFM daily
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Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you make no sense they can not just copy and paste text chat into the game it will take way longer to implement a text box into the game then to make a App for players to communicate through.You example makes no sense at all it wouldn't be a console game then woulf it?So i most ask what is you logic behind your statement.
Also your second paragraph makes no sense.Can you please retype it?
I guess your saying that it's easier to just add it back into the game then make a app in reality its not.They have to redo the UI for them to implement it they Can't just flip a switch of press a button and its in that's not the case.If it was am pretty sure they would have press that button to add by now.Also no one will be jumping through hoops most people have smart phones or a tablet or even a computer.Maybe not one good enough to play the PC version but one good enough to download a App or at least go to a web page.Also to download a App takes no time at all it takes less then a minute to download a App.It be faster quicker and easier for more players to use.Trust me You all say what's wrong with having more options this would give you guys more options and you saying no.Your being a hypocrite you say you want more options but when someone post a way for you to have what you you jump on him because its different then what you want.Hav you every used ESOtoolkit they can also add features from that their two makes the game for Console Ayers so much easier.
Actualy it would be basicly flipping a switch ... text chat was in the console version of ESO till they took it out just before the beta, they have all those UI set-ups & text chat assets just sitting around somewhere on one of thier servers.
They removed it for stupid reasons, the lead console UI dev gave this reason on ESO live as to why they took it out ..."it felt awkward sitting on a couch with a keyboard in my lap" .
I'd pay 5 bucks to flip my switch and get a chat box..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.1 -
Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you make no sense they can not just copy and paste text chat into the game it will take way longer to implement a text box into the game then to make a App for players to communicate through.You example makes no sense at all it wouldn't be a console game then woulf it?So i most ask what is you logic behind your statement.
Also your second paragraph makes no sense.Can you please retype it?
I guess your saying that it's easier to just add it back into the game then make a app in reality its not.They have to redo the UI for them to implement it they Can't just flip a switch of press a button and its in that's not the case.If it was am pretty sure they would have press that button to add by now.Also no one will be jumping through hoops most people have smart phones or a tablet or even a computer.Maybe not one good enough to play the PC version but one good enough to download a App or at least go to a web page.Also to download a App takes no time at all it takes less then a minute to download a App.It be faster quicker and easier for more players to use.Trust me You all say what's wrong with having more options this would give you guys more options and you saying no.Your being a hypocrite you say you want more options but when someone post a way for you to have what you you jump on him because its different then what you want.Hav you every used ESOtoolkit they can also add features from that their two makes the game for Console Ayers so much easier.
Actualy it would be basicly flipping a switch ... text chat was in the console version of ESO till they took it out just before the beta, they have all those UI set-ups & text chat assets just sitting around somewhere on one of thier servers.
They removed it for stupid reasons, the lead console UI dev gave this reason on ESO live as to why they took it out ..."it felt awkward sitting on a couch with a keyboard in my lap" .
And if a keyboard feels weird on you lap, it's because you play PC too much. Sofa/keyboard rocks..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.3 -
SjarexSoul ShrivenI agree that there should be at least an option for chat. Sometimes it is just easier to use the chat for finding people or sales. I dont think that it would change much of the aspects in the game. Especially if it were an option.
Needless to say, I agree that there should also be an option for the impaired as well. My daughter plays the game and hates talking on it, so she wont. But on the PC she was always chatting up a storm. She said that she thinks that it is not fair that she cant have that option to remain somewhat anonymous anymore.-The more I play MMORPG's, the more I lose sense of th...............huh?!?
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muffit✭Don't know if this has been suggested but in this day and age everyone has a smart phone why not make an application for console to chat as I personally would find it easier to communicate this way than using a PS4/XBOX controller.PS4 - EU - AD - VR14 Stamina Nightblade0 -
Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Mighty_oakk wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you make no sense they can not just copy and paste text chat into the game it will take way longer to implement a text box into the game then to make a App for players to communicate through.You example makes no sense at all it wouldn't be a console game then woulf it?So i most ask what is you logic behind your statement.
Also your second paragraph makes no sense.Can you please retype it?
I guess your saying that it's easier to just add it back into the game then make a app in reality its not.They have to redo the UI for them to implement it they Can't just flip a switch of press a button and its in that's not the case.If it was am pretty sure they would have press that button to add by now.Also no one will be jumping through hoops most people have smart phones or a tablet or even a computer.Maybe not one good enough to play the PC version but one good enough to download a App or at least go to a web page.Also to download a App takes no time at all it takes less then a minute to download a App.It be faster quicker and easier for more players to use.Trust me You all say what's wrong with having more options this would give you guys more options and you saying no.Your being a hypocrite you say you want more options but when someone post a way for you to have what you you jump on him because its different then what you want.Hav you every used ESOtoolkit they can also add features from that their two makes the game for Console Ayers so much easier.
Actualy it would be basicly flipping a switch ... text chat was in the console version of ESO till they took it out just before the beta, they have all those UI set-ups & text chat assets just sitting around somewhere on one of thier servers.
They removed it for stupid reasons, the lead console UI dev gave this reason on ESO live as to why they took it out ..."it felt awkward sitting on a couch with a keyboard in my lap" .
Why on earth would you need a keyboard to type, LFM daily
Dev is fail
Also, let's get real. No one plays on a 13 inch TV anymore. Mine is 65in, daedras are 2 feet tall on my screen, and my chat box would probably be 1 foot by 1 foot.... So no tiny text. I'm imagining it now. Would look beautiful to see all the "LFM CoA". /sigh. A guy can dream, can't he?.... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.2 -
Milktray✭✭✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
you can get a smart phone for under £50 newZoS please understand everyone thinks and pronounces things differently, so please add to your 'rules' that things get removed if the Mod doesn't actually quite understand phrasing1 -
Duragon_Darko✭✭✭Oh man.
" LFM heals, F. Grotto, shout for invite".... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.0 -
Duragon_Darko✭✭✭@ZOS come on guys. Chat box please..... I have to admit, the devs do listen to reason, if not to the forums. Thank you for "nameplates", a welcome addition to immersion, as well as the text chat box for PS4, which only comes on the screen when I need it too, and helps this gameplay SO MUCH MORE then without it. THANK YOU for the additions. Very much appreciated.0
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MikeB✭✭✭✭✭If they ever release a text chat function, please let players disable and enable as they want. I like the UI as it is
Also, I hope voice chat keeps being default, cause it is very nice
What game are you playing? Voice Chat nice?! It doesnt even work half the time! It just quits working whenever it feels like it and you have to restart the game just to be able to use the ingame chat again. Between this games horrible communication problems and Microsofts horrible headsets its impossible to speak with anyone on Xbone.
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I played ESO on PC for a while. I could not imagine playing without text chat. When the game was released for console, I bought it because my Laptop isn't "top of the line" and I enjoy this game better with a controller. On consol I don't have to run 2 additional programs to do so. Honestly though, what a mess. This is an MMO. One which has no way to speak to the masses. I love the game, I love the mechanics, but I mean seriously. How did this end up at the top of the list for decisions. I dropped $100 on the premium digital version for PS4 (save your hate comments) and I got a dumbed down version of what I enjoyed on PC. It's not a problem to play the story mode without text chat, that's not an issue at all. However MMO portion of the game is close to impossible without either filtering through forums first in an attempt to find players to meet up with, or dealing with the horribly annoying proximity voice chat. I am all for voice chat. When I play FFXIV on console I run TeamSpeak3 through my android just for extreme primals and what not. However I still spend more time in the Console Chat Box, than I do talking. This proximity chat thing though. Horrible. I mostly hear super high Mic sensitivity blaring everything going on in a players house from all the way from horrible music, to arguing family members. I can't look for group for dungeons, I can't find out where the action is in Cyrodil or link up to wreak some havoc, I can't even look for a guild. This is an MMO, a social massive multilayer online game, with barely a way for the masses to be social. We need text chat. Edited by Lupus_Draco on July 27, 2015 7:39PM3 -
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✭Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you are saying make no.senseMirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Mirra_Halfelven wrote: »Why don't they just make text chat as a second screen feature it be a win win for everyone.The protexters get text chat and the players who don't want it on their screen gets its.Its a win win for everyone.
So your solution is to require players to have/buy a smart phone or tablet, which can cost more than the console they are playing on just to use a basic feature included ingame on every other MMORPG (both PC & console) ?
Really now This is something you can just Google yourself Majority of Americans now a days have a smart phone or tablet so they won't have to go out of their way to buy a new one. They can also make a website for you so call real MMO players can use your PC aswell for Text chat.Also this is a better solution that gives both sides what they want.If you want text chat you would have it if you don't you don't have to use the app or see it on screen.ZOS can make it .99¢ and make some money off of it that's the only way they will probably do it.
That makes no sense ... it would be the same as releasing a game on the console with no controler support but the Dev's saying "Oh you can play this game but you'll need a smart phone or tablet to do anything"
So instead of asking people to jump through hoops, get apps, smart phones, or tablets ... how about just adding text chat back in with the options to hide/turn it off? I mean its already in the PC version of ESO, and the PC version is getting both voice chat & controler support, wouldn't you expect the same features on ALL versions of ESO to be the same?
What you make no sense they can not just copy and paste text chat into the game it will take way longer to implement a text box into the game then to make a App for players to communicate through.You example makes no sense at all it wouldn't be a console game then woulf it?So i most ask what is you logic behind your statement.
Also your second paragraph makes no sense.Can you please retype it?
I guess your saying that it's easier to just add it back into the game then make a app in reality its not.They have to redo the UI for them to implement it they Can't just flip a switch of press a button and its in that's not the case.If it was am pretty sure they would have press that button to add by now.Also no one will be jumping through hoops most people have smart phones or a tablet or even a computer.Maybe not one good enough to play the PC version but one good enough to download a App or at least go to a web page.Also to download a App takes no time at all it takes less then a minute to download a App.It be faster quicker and easier for more players to use.Trust me You all say what's wrong with having more options this would give you guys more options and you saying no.Your being a hypocrite you say you want more options but when someone post a way for you to have what you you jump on him because its different then what you want.Hav you every used ESOtoolkit they can also add features from that their two makes the game for Console Ayers so much easier.
Actualy it would be basicly flipping a switch ... text chat was in the console version of ESO till they took it out just before the beta, they have all those UI set-ups & text chat assets just sitting around somewhere on one of thier servers.
They removed it for stupid reasons, the lead console UI dev gave this reason on ESO live as to why they took it out ..."it felt awkward sitting on a couch with a keyboard in my lap" .
Omg Dude really are you crazy it won't be even close to that easy or they would have just did it so this thread can stop popin up.Also they did not take it out before the beta you can't just switch out a build for a game by the snip.KF your fingers it had to be removed months before hand for it not to be their during console beta.1 -
Mirra_Halfelven✭✭✭Don't know if this has been suggested but in this day and age everyone has a smart phone why not make an application for console to chat as I personally would find it easier to communicate this way than using a PS4/XBOX controller.
It has, & it would be a nice second screen option as long as there is text chat in game, otherwise its just as bad if not worse than just voice chat.
In a MMORPG you need a form of comunication that everyone can receive by default, not one where you have to be in the right voice channel or hope the person/people you are trying to talk with has thier smart phones or tablets sitting next to them.
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