How does the community feel about Nightblades getting a reliable self heal?

SOLDIER_1stClass · June 2015

Personally, I love my Nightblade however, I really wish the class had a viable self heal for those Ohh S*** moments that are not dependent on using a resto staff as my second weapon. Strife and its morphs are fine for sustainment but not for when you need a heal in a pinch in my opinion.

Stannum · June 2015

No! leave it to the resto staff

NB allready has good self heal (even without using resto). Yesterday I've met good DK-player in non-vet PvP. We were fighting for about 5-7 minutes ( we have also used for 3 times ulti each) before I killed her. We have no problems with self-healing, but looks like I've had better resource managment.

As for "Ohh sh.." moments - soul siphon is good and "ohh sh..." pots are available to everyone

Vanzen · June 2015

Is that a joke ? Perma roller NB hit like a truck, take no damage, have the best cc and can cloak away. They talking about nerfing whip and so on not to be undogeable anymore so I REALLY WONDER how you will hurt a roller, and now you want a self heal ?!!!!

PBpsy · June 2015

Yes. Only it should be magicka based and very impractical for stamina builds.

Jakeol · June 2015

No! leave it to the resto staff

Killers Blade + Mark Target heal, 60% of your HP

DeanTheCat · June 2015

No! leave it to the resto staff

As a Nightblade myself... I'm going to have to vote no.

Every class has it's own playstyles and niches. If you give a viable class based burst self-heal to Nightblades, you will have to either give up the mobility or damage that the Nightblade outputs, in the name of balance.

Let's look at the other classes as comparisons.

Dragonknight:

Pros:
- High Melee Damage
- Has a Class Heal
- Has a Class Shield
- Skillset for taking damage and surviving

Cons:
- Immobile
- Lack of range
- No class based viable gapcloser
- Damage is DoT based rather than burst based

Templar:

Pros:
- High Melee Damage
- Decent Ranged Damage
- Has a Class Heal
- Has a Class Shield

Cons:
- Immobile
- Easily Kited
- No class based viable gapcloser
- Skills suffer from slow travel times and clunky animations

Sorcerer:

Pros:
- Very High Ranged Damage
- Excellent Mobility
- Has a Strong Class Shield
- Panoply of utility and area denial abilities
- Reduced ultimate costs, allowing more ultimates to be used

Cons:
- Reliant on Shields
- Attacks are delayed and easily mitigated
- Lack of Stamina Management

Why does the sorc has offense, mobility and defense all rolled into one, I'll never know. P.S: This isn't a nerf sorcs thread. That's an issue for another thread completely.

Nightblade:

Pros:
- Very high melee damage
- Decent ranged damage
- Excellent Stamina management
- Elusive
- Panoply of debuffs

Cons:
- No Class Burst Heal
- No Class Shield
- Defensive Mechanic (Cloak) is countered by a panoply of counters
- Lack of soft CC

As you can see, each class has it's own strengths and weaknesses, each leading to unique playstyles for each class. This ensures that there will be some variety between players. If every class did exactly the same thing with different animations, how would that be interesting at all?

RavenSworn · June 2015

No! leave it to the resto staff

Different playstyle, different game plan. Nightblades has to kill to heal. So why should I worry about healing myself when I know all I need is to kill someone to reinvigorate me?

Lynx7386 · June 2015

I main a nightblade, and I vote no. However, I would like to see a stamina-based version of strife so I can more reliably get a decent heal over time on my character.

OdinForge · June 2015

No! leave it to the resto staff

No matter how good the NB gets at doing damage, one obvious weakness should always be not having a one stop shop class based self heal like GDB.

The best nightblades both stamina and magicka have other ways to compensate for the lack of healing. They could give a stamina based swallow soul for a small heal, vigor looks like it's heading to rank 5 of alliance war (big mistake but whatever).

Jeckll · June 2015

No! leave it to the resto staff

Nope. I like the unique feel of Nightblade healing. If anything, Breath of Life could be less effective to make other healers more respected in general. As others stated before, we heal on kill, we avoid with Blur and mitigate with Shadow Barrier. The class has really nice mechanics...no need to give us a generic "oh ***" button.

Lynx7386 · June 2015

Swallow soul would be a good candidate for a stamina morph, imo.

Emma_Overload · June 2015

Yes! To adding a viable self heal for Nightblades

Yes, everyone should have an effective self-heal... which is why ZoS needs to remove the HORRIBLE COOLDOWN on Surge heals before they even THINK about buffing Nightblades!

Tavore1138 · June 2015

It's the price we must pay for high burst imo, although if you pvp I would take a look at Vigor...

Strider_Roshin · June 2015

No! leave it to the resto staff

Ok this is coming from a stamina Nightblade. Every class has a niche; ours is burst damage and good resource management. Our weakness is damage mitigation and self heals. This is ok because it's balanced. Now if we had good damage mitigation and healing on top of that, Nightblades would be too overpowered. Keep it as is or get nerf'd elsewhere. If you're magicka, get a resto staff, if you're stamina get rally and/or vigor.

helediron · July 2015

No! leave it to the resto staff

As playing magicka nightblade in PvE, we can stack the HoT healings and mitigation, and that is enough. DPS is too low on magicka side but healing is good already, and we can boost it with resto staff.

Violynne · July 2015

Um... maybe I'm not understanding, but isn't one of the perks of NB siphoning for self-heal? Between cloaking (to get a little breathing room) and drams, I would figure this is "self heal".

Unless people don't play NB with Siphoning? It's not much, but it's saved me many times.

SOLDIER_1stClass · July 2015

Yes! To adding a viable self heal for Nightblades

Well the community has spoken!

Tankqull · July 2015

No! leave it to the resto staff

with the current amount of heals (and vigor to be reduced in its AP rank) available to them they simply dont need one.

olsborg · July 2015

Yes! To adding a viable self heal for Nightblades

Sorcerors too, damn restoration staff!!

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