dont gank at quest NPCs

Sanct16 · May 2015

The problem is that these pve scums only want to pve there. If you try to challenge them, they just run away until they find more friends to come back and 6v1 you. If I actually go to the questhubs I just kill people there for ap when the map is dead otherwise.

RedTalon · May 2015

Gank everything people and be proud of it.

Ryuho · May 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

lol, pvp at the quest hubs is the most fun of all.

Can you please explain what is "so funny" in this ? 'cause I'd like to understand...

It's a pvp zone, players go there to pvp. I find it funny there is a thread complaining about there being pvp....in a pvp zone.

and saying you're stuck turning in quests is silly, use the E key if it's a problem, will take you less than a second to turn in.

I mean the point of a pvp zone is to expect pvp. I think ganking with numbers is lame, but a thread isn't going to stop that.

and this is exactly why this game need so much instanced pvp. pvp is not about killing others on sight to get some imaginatory "tiny advantage in war", pvp is about challenge others with honor, take pride of hardworking for victory[/b]

Tell that to zerglings, most of them have a lot of honor, especially when they chase me with 30 ppls

#kitemasterRub

Manoekin · May 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

lol, pvp at the quest hubs is the most fun of all.

Can you please explain what is "so funny" in this ? 'cause I'd like to understand...

It's a pvp zone, players go there to pvp. I find it funny there is a thread complaining about there being pvp....in a pvp zone.

and saying you're stuck turning in quests is silly, use the E key if it's a problem, will take you less than a second to turn in.

I mean the point of a pvp zone is to expect pvp. I think ganking with numbers is lame, but a thread isn't going to stop that.

and this is exactly why this game need so much instanced pvp. pvp is not about killing others on sight to get some imaginatory "tiny advantage in war", pvp is about challenge others with honor, take pride of hardworking for victory

Have you literally never heard the term, "If it's red it's dead"? Sorry bro, but you're in a pvp zone. Your safe zone is at your gate town. You can stay there if you want your pve experience otherwise there are no rules.

VincentBlanquin · May 2015

Ryuho wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

lol, pvp at the quest hubs is the most fun of all.

Can you please explain what is "so funny" in this ? 'cause I'd like to understand...

It's a pvp zone, players go there to pvp. I find it funny there is a thread complaining about there being pvp....in a pvp zone.

and saying you're stuck turning in quests is silly, use the E key if it's a problem, will take you less than a second to turn in.

I mean the point of a pvp zone is to expect pvp. I think ganking with numbers is lame, but a thread isn't going to stop that.

and this is exactly why this game need so much instanced pvp. pvp is not about killing others on sight to get some imaginatory "tiny advantage in war", pvp is about challenge others with honor, take pride of hardworking for victory[/b]

Tell that to zerglings, most of them have a lot of honor, especially when they chase me with 30 ppls #kitemasterRub

i will, in my next thread))))) but not sure how many players will agree with me)))

VincentBlanquin · May 2015

Sanct16 wrote: »

The problem is that these pve scums only want to pve there. If you try to challenge them, they just run away until they find more friends to come back and 6v1 you. If I actually go to the questhubs I just kill people there for ap when the map is dead otherwise.

thats what i think too. but dont understand why so many people defend them

VincentBlanquin · May 2015

Varicite wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

lol, pvp at the quest hubs is the most fun of all.

Can you please explain what is "so funny" in this ? 'cause I'd like to understand...

It's a pvp zone, players go there to pvp. I find it funny there is a thread complaining about there being pvp....in a pvp zone.

and saying you're stuck turning in quests is silly, use the E key if it's a problem, will take you less than a second to turn in.

I mean the point of a pvp zone is to expect pvp. I think ganking with numbers is lame, but a thread isn't going to stop that.

and this is exactly why this game need so much instanced pvp. pvp is not about killing others on sight to get some imaginatory "tiny advantage in war", pvp is about challenge others with honor, take pride of hardworking for victory

Um, no, PvP is about "Player vs Player".

That's it. That is literally it.

Keep your own moral dilemmas to yourself and quit trying to force others to play your way.

I may not gank people at quest givers or do other underhanded things, but it'll be a hot day in Coldharbour before I try to make other people play exactly the way that I do.

i am trying force people against zenimax, what they are trying force against players

VincentBlanquin · May 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

lol, pvp at the quest hubs is the most fun of all.

Can you please explain what is "so funny" in this ? 'cause I'd like to understand...

It's a pvp zone, players go there to pvp. I find it funny there is a thread complaining about there being pvp....in a pvp zone.

and saying you're stuck turning in quests is silly, use the E key if it's a problem, will take you less than a second to turn in.

I mean the point of a pvp zone is to expect pvp. I think ganking with numbers is lame, but a thread isn't going to stop that.

and this is exactly why this game need so much instanced pvp. pvp is not about killing others on sight to get some imaginatory "tiny advantage in war", pvp is about challenge others with honor, take pride of hardworking for victory

Have you literally never heard the term, "If it's red it's dead"? Sorry bro, but you're in a pvp zone. Your safe zone is at your gate town. You can stay there if you want your pve experience otherwise there are no rules.

red is dead, game is dead. pigeonholed, shortsighted

Armitas · May 2015

Immediately, ganking questers in a pvp zone is simply a part of pvp, but there are very good reasons to avoid doing doing so to the extent that those players no longer enter Cyrodiil. It turns out that these PvErs are one of our greatest assets toward getting things done in PvP. More information on that can be found here, specifically under the heading "How to get our issues prioritized."

I want to also mention that they intend to turn these quest zones into battle zones. For example Cheydinhall should eventually turn into capture the flag.

Islyn · May 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

to all community, to all players to care about population here and longevity in pvp

please stop ganking players when they turned quests, they are stuck at turning and cant do anything, defend, nothing. What are you proud of collecting these kills? zen fail to deliver safe zone around quest npcs, so please, tell in your guilds to not do this, punish them for this. Try to watch from time to time your own territory cities and kill these scums. you all not only veterans complain about zerging, so this can be your way to have 1vs1 fight and do right thing in one. spred this, do this. thank you for your time

Yeah some people are yuck in this game - use the buddy system. Go with a friend take turns turning in.

Slurg · May 2015

While honor around quest givers is a lovely sentiment in theory, here is what I learned in the process of completing every single quest in Cyrodiil to earn the Cyrodiil Hero title as a PVE-er:

Gank them first or they WILL gank you!

I died way too many times trying to be nice at the quest hubs (in addition to all the times I died from just plain sucking at PVP).

SHADOW2KK · May 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Varicite wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

lol, pvp at the quest hubs is the most fun of all.

Can you please explain what is "so funny" in this ? 'cause I'd like to understand...

It's a pvp zone, players go there to pvp. I find it funny there is a thread complaining about there being pvp....in a pvp zone.

and saying you're stuck turning in quests is silly, use the E key if it's a problem, will take you less than a second to turn in.

I mean the point of a pvp zone is to expect pvp. I think ganking with numbers is lame, but a thread isn't going to stop that.

and this is exactly why this game need so much instanced pvp. pvp is not about killing others on sight to get some imaginatory "tiny advantage in war", pvp is about challenge others with honor, take pride of hardworking for victory

Um, no, PvP is about "Player vs Player".

That's it. That is literally it.

Keep your own moral dilemmas to yourself and quit trying to force others to play your way.

I may not gank people at quest givers or do other underhanded things, but it'll be a hot day in Coldharbour before I try to make other people play exactly the way that I do.

i am trying force people against zenimax, what they are trying force against players

Keep trying, seen your other threads about the injustice of PvP, its war, deal with it or go back to care bear lands.

If you want honour in battle, then do duels in a duel guild, that is as close as you will ever get, in war, there is no rules, you kill or be killed.

If you want to take 3 million years handing in a quest while taking no care whatsoever to look out for enemy players, then sorry, you deserve to be lit up.

Try adding to the immersion of the game by training yourself up better, being more aware, there are random encounters where people may not kill you, but you are in a PvP zone, where death walks.

I personally do not gank quest givers, but say for example , I am on the way to DC with a raid, and I see some hostiles around Bruma, sorry, I really could not care less if they are RPers or PvEers handing in quests or whatever.

They die, not being evil about it.

For all I know, the enemies could be scouts, or part of a larger force masquerading as PvEers which I have seen a couple of times hahaha.

Shrugs, don`t matter, if you have a enemy marker above your head, I will kill you or die trying.

Although I do draw the line at someone AFK or something, as there is no honour in that kill, but if someone is moving, then they die....

And I will never be sorry for it, if carebear`s can`t handle the heat, then stay out of the war.

Islyn · May 2015

Zargorius wrote: »

If you don't like PvP with all that it entails, please don't go to PvP zones. No to safe zones, accept the risk as part of being there.

I don't disagree with you but it is not reallly pvp when the other player is stuck in a dialogue for a millisecond and someone picks that millisecond purposely to kill them. If you want pvp then you kill them before or after that second.

On the other hand though - that is part of the risk so ya gotta deal with it :-)

OrphanHelgen · May 2015

I was doing delve bosses once, when a lower level player from another alliance walked by. I pressed /wave and we did the bosses together.

Nivzruo_ESO · May 2015

Not sure what kinda response you expected from this post lol. Perhaps Hello Kitty Online is more ur speed pal.

Armitas · May 2015

Slurg wrote: »

While honor around quest givers is a lovely sentiment in theory, here is what I learned in the process of completing every single quest in Cyrodiil to earn the Cyrodiil Hero title as a PVE-er:

Gank them first or they WILL gank you!

I died way too many times trying to be nice at the quest hubs (in addition to all the times I died from just plain sucking at PVP).

I go out there to quest and have no intentions of fighting the other faction there. More times than not though I have to kill them because they leave me no choice due to this mentality.

When you see the enemy, jump, if they jump back you're good.

TequilaFire · May 2015

SInce I think it is a **** move to gank someone when they are helpless I wait till they finish then it
is time to fight!

VincentBlanquin · May 2015

carebear land? are you kidding me? i am dedicated pvper in other game and i care about improving pvp here. sad to see its helpless since many people agree with scum things

Epsilon_Echo · May 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

carebear land? are you kidding me? i am dedicated pvper in other game and i care about improving pvp here. sad to see its helpless since many people agree with scum things

What you fail too see is that Cyrodill is mine. All of it. I did not give you permission to be there, talk to npcs, open chests, farm nodes, or explore.

M I N E

So either take it from me or

G E T O U T

VincentBlanquin · May 2015

Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

carebear land? are you kidding me? i am dedicated pvper in other game and i care about improving pvp here. sad to see its helpless since many people agree with scum things

What you fail too see is that Cyrodill is mine. All of it. I did not give you permission to be there, talk to npcs, open chests, farm nodes, or explore.

M I N E

So either take it from me or

G E T O U T

how many games must be destined to ruin, before this mindset diminishing

Epsilon_Echo · May 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

carebear land? are you kidding me? i am dedicated pvper in other game and i care about improving pvp here. sad to see its helpless since many people agree with scum things

What you fail too see is that Cyrodill is mine. All of it. I did not give you permission to be there, talk to npcs, open chests, farm nodes, or explore.

M I N E

So either take it from me or

G E T O U T

how many games must be destined to ruin, before this mindset diminishing

As many games as there are where I am LITERALLY the EMPEROR of a an entire zone.

Varicite · May 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

carebear land? are you kidding me? i am dedicated pvper in other game and i care about improving pvp here. sad to see its helpless since many people agree with scum things

What you fail too see is that Cyrodill is mine. All of it. I did not give you permission to be there, talk to npcs, open chests, farm nodes, or explore.

M I N E

So either take it from me or

G E T O U T

how many games must be destined to ruin, before this mindset diminishing

It's not ruined at all. Cyrodiil was designed to be dangerous, and that means you are not safe.

You are asking for safety. There is quite a large amount of the game that provides exactly what you want.

But there is a very SMALL section of the game that provides danger.

Islyn · May 2015

Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

carebear land? are you kidding me? i am dedicated pvper in other game and i care about improving pvp here. sad to see its helpless since many people agree with scum things

What you fail too see is that Cyrodill is mine. All of it. I did not give you permission to be there, talk to npcs, open chests, farm nodes, or explore.

M I N E

So either take it from me or

G E T O U T

how many games must be destined to ruin, before this mindset diminishing

As many games as there are where I am LITERALLY the EMPEROR of a an entire zone.

I lol'd at the lol of this. xD

SHADOW2KK · May 2015

Varicite wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Epsilon_Echo wrote: »

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

carebear land? are you kidding me? i am dedicated pvper in other game and i care about improving pvp here. sad to see its helpless since many people agree with scum things

What you fail too see is that Cyrodill is mine. All of it. I did not give you permission to be there, talk to npcs, open chests, farm nodes, or explore.

M I N E

So either take it from me or

G E T O U T

how many games must be destined to ruin, before this mindset diminishing

It's not ruined at all. Cyrodiil was designed to be dangerous, and that means you are not safe.

You are asking for safety. There is quite a large amount of the game that provides exactly what you want.

But there is a very SMALL section of the game that provides danger.

Aye exactly, hence why I said care bear land, where everything is rosy and ai scripted.

As said numerous times OP, its war, if you cannot handle it, then do not play.

I and many others will not kill people who are afk or not moving, but I have absolutely no compunction killing people moving, and I really could not care less if they are RPers or PvEers or w/e, they could be scouts or something.

It is a war zone, you wanna do PvE, then there is a a multitude of zones for you, do not complain when people kill you in PvP

Imagine that, shock horror, you die in PvP and everyone is evil

/facepalm

Sharee · May 2015

Getting ganked at quest NPC's is part of the game. If you don't like it, nobody forces you to quest there. If you do want to quest there, you have to accept the good(fast XP) with the bad(danger).

And you are not helpless. Cast shields before talking, put up defensive rune, drop a minefield at your feet, buff up, etc.etc.

Also, if you expect there is someone going to try and gank you as you talk to the NPC, stand in front of the NPC and wait for a few seconds. The attacker does not know whether you are talking to the NPC or just standing and waiting for him to attack.

Tintinabula · May 2015

The problem is you cant pick and choose where a quest zone is in Cyrodiil..Every resource is a "quest zone' Every keep is a "quest zone" Some involve killing . Some do not but the chance you may be killed is everywhere and should be (with the exception of starter areas)

Vizier · May 2015

Oh, you got ganked a couple times. LOL

I typically don't go out of my way to camp a quest hub but I will not pass up a kill if I incidentally stumble across a player receiving or turning in a quest.

Shrug... happens to me too from time to time. I'm not going to rage quit PvP over it.

Hint. Before you turn in your quest..Buff up. Shields, HOTs, Dodge buffs etc..

Probably give you enough time to at least put up a fight.

hammayolettuce · May 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

... let this thread about pvp philosophy. sometimes i am thinking about players be so tired and deprived too many years at WOW or DAOC, then they dont see all in its complexicity ...

Open war zone is open war zone. We've been asking for arenas, same-faction dueling and small-scale, objective-based PvP for over a year. You're expecting this game to be something it isn't. The entire point of an open warzone with three alliances is that "scummy" play is encouraged.

While you're making threads though, can you please ask people to stop ganking me while I'm on my horse senche tiger?

VincentBlanquin · May 2015

Tintinabula wrote: »

The problem is you cant pick and choose where a quest zone is in Cyrodiil..Every resource is a "quest zone' Every keep is a "quest zone" Some involve killing . Some do not but the chance you may be killed is everywhere and should be (with the exception of starter areas)

if you read my first post, i write about these gankers should have more attention from veterans than have now

Varicite · May 2015

VincentBlanquin wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

The problem is you cant pick and choose where a quest zone is in Cyrodiil..Every resource is a "quest zone' Every keep is a "quest zone" Some involve killing . Some do not but the chance you may be killed is everywhere and should be (with the exception of starter areas)

if you read my first post, i write about these gankers should have more attention from veterans than have now

In your opinion.

Others would rather fight in the actual war, not against brigands and cutthroats.