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(POLL) - Do you find ESO too easy, too hard, or just right.

  • Lionxoft
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.
    I could probably level through the solo content in my sleep.
  • WhimsyDragon
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    I feel the same way I did close to launch -- some aspects of the game are easy and some are more challenging. Overall, it balances well for me. I don't like it when every single aspect of a game is an uphill battle (I can think of a couple notorious ones like that), especially early on. I prefer to see it remain a mixture of difficulty levels than play something that is constantly easy or hard mode.
    Edited by WhimsyDragon on April 20, 2015 10:52PM
  • RakshaTheKhajiit
    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    Difficulty seems mostly ok for me. Currently, I'm running around with my level 16 NB alt in Grahtwood with decent gear and some champ points assigned. Of course normal quests are easy, yet when I feel like some challenge, there are plenty of worldbosses, public dungeons and group dungeons to do (just died while trying to solo Lady Solace due to my less than optimal healing/dodging).

    The one thing that seems too easy are public dungeons and group challenges inside them. There seems to be no point of grouping for them if you more or less know what you are doing. This could use ramp up in difficulty to let us have some fun in groups.

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  • bloodenragedb14_ESO
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.
    from 1 to 50 things are embarrassingly easy, vr1 to 14 is only slightly better, even then a skilled player finds no challenge, and the grind tedious
  • Nestor
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    If you don't know what your doing, then the game is harder

    If you know what your doing, then the game is easier

    If you know what your doing, then you can make the game as hard or as easy as you want it to be.

    Well, there are probably some limits in both directions with that.
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  • UrQuan
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.
    Difficulty seems mostly ok for me. Currently, I'm running around with my level 16 NB alt in Grahtwood with decent gear and some champ points assigned. Of course normal quests are easy, yet when I feel like some challenge, there are plenty of worldbosses, public dungeons and group dungeons to do (just died while trying to solo Lady Solace due to my less than optimal healing/dodging).
    She stands out in my mind as one of the more difficult world bosses to solo at-level. Been a while since I've fought her, though.
    The one thing that seems too easy are public dungeons and group challenges inside them. There seems to be no point of grouping for them if you more or less know what you are doing. This could use ramp up in difficulty to let us have some fun in groups.
    I can't even remember the last time I had to have help to do one of the group challenges in a public dungeon... Well, aside from not being able to actually summon the one in Alik'r without help.
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  • MercyKilling
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    I do not have a VR character yet and I find ESO just right.
    I find it just right.
    I am not spending a single penny on the game until changes are made to the game that I want to see.
    1) Remove having to be in a guild to sell items to other players at a kiosk.
    2) Cosmetic modding for armor and clothing.
    3) Difficulty slider.
    4) Fully customizable player housing that isn't tied to anything in the game other than having the correct resources and enough gold to build. Don't tie it to PvP, guild membership, or anything at all. Oh, make it instanced so as not to take up world map space, too. Zeni screwed this one up already.
    Any /one/ of these things implemented would get me spending again, maybe even subbing.
  • Dru1076
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    Difficulty depends on many things. I did find it nearly impossible to do things like boss fights early on. But with a bit of learning and some skill points I found myself doing much better.

    I think it depends entirely on your build, and how well you use it. If its too hard, you can level up and it will get easier. If too easy, find your way to a higher levelled zone or try soloing a group dongeon. Challenges are out there if you look around...
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  • RakshaTheKhajiit
    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    UrQuan wrote: »
    I can't even remember the last time I had to have help to do one of the group challenges in a public dungeon... Well, aside from not being able to actually summon the one in Alik'r without help.
    Yeah, which seems a bit wasteful. These kind of encounters would be nice if they were tailored for larger groups of people (like 6+), since for now, there is nothing to do with that kind of group outside of PvP.
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  • Sylveria_Relden
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    I've got a VR1 character and doing Cadwell's Silver - it seems to progress extremely slowly- even with ESO+ xp percentage bonus, etc. I do all side-quests in each zone, with kills and everything, and barely even move the XP bar.

    That said, the majority of content up to VR I found to be just right- the XP/quest progression actually went well (I've got 5 other alt characters I'm leveling, so I think I'm qualified to remark on it) but after VR1 it's slow as molasses.

    I think Cadwell's Gold/Silver really needs to be looked at, or just completely revamped- there's tons of other people who feel disgruntled at the lack of choices presented as well (like not being able to choose which faction/area you're going to) so I know I'm not the only one here.
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  • Alphashado
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    UrQuan wrote: »
    I can't even remember the last time I had to have help to do one of the group challenges in a public dungeon... Well, aside from not being able to actually summon the one in Alik'r without help.
    Yeah, which seems a bit wasteful. These kind of encounters would be nice if they were tailored for larger groups of people (like 6+), since for now, there is nothing to do with that kind of group outside of PvP.

    Public dungeons are pretty easy to solo for some people. Yet on the other hand, I still see people going into them and getting totally wrecked. They are actually a pretty good example of the divide between optimum playing and sub par. I remember when I first started I was watching people solo public dungeons while I struggled. I remember telling myself that someday I would be the guy blasting through those places making it look easy. Well eventually I did. I learned more and more about the game, developed builds, understood more about gear sets and basically memorized fight mechanics to the point where they became muscle memory.

    In other words I got better and better at the game. Some people like me are driven to constantly get better and some people are perfectly content to just enjoy the ride. And that is just fine. Different strokes for different folks. Now I can solo most anything that anyone else can solo. That's where I set the bar for myself.

    But the point I am making is that I remember very clearly when I couldn't play like that. The game needs to have something for people of all skill levels. One must consider the bigger picture. It's very easy for us to see things through our eyes only, but this is an MMO and as such it needs to offer entertainment value for every person that pays the bills in one fashion or another. And as this poll demonstrates, ZoS would have a very hard time making everyone happy.

  • wrlifeboil
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    It depends on whether a person is playing solo or in a group, what class, what spec and, of course, skill. Add in quality of Internet service and computer gear too.

    Some people have the best of all worlds and find the game easy. Others don't. The ones who say the game is much too easy are like out-of-touch rich people (remembering that article about some celeb trying to show poor people how to eat a champagne diet on a beer budget).
  • golfer.dub17_ESO
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.
    I remember around launch there were times I legit had to cancel fighting various storyline bosses and come back later when I was stronger.

    Now, I just steamroll right through them in a few seconds.

    In my opinion the game shouldn't be very hard. It's an MMO, it's meant to appeal to a wide audience, and extreme difficulty would get in the way of grinding/farming which is a big aspect of any MMO. PvE should be fairly easy save for bosses and difficult group-orientated content.

    That said, you can breeze through all the content without so much as worrying about what your character does or wears, and that's too much.
    Edited by golfer.dub17_ESO on April 21, 2015 6:50AM
  • Wyietsayon
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    Considering of all the different playstyles, skill levels of the players, and different options for more challenging material, I think the difficulty is about right. Some people want something relaxing and casual, others want difficult and challenging, others stategy, and others reaction-based. And Eso at the moment satisfies all these different people between Pve, trials, PVP, group stuff, ect.

    But, I do want more stuff. More options of things to do, more twists on gameplay, more everything. Guess I'm greedy.
  • RakshaTheKhajiit
    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    What I find lacking is content for bigger groups (like 5+) that is not catered for Pr0 minmaxers (like trials currently). When I have a group of, for example, 6 people, the only option is to go to cyro and take a resource... Public dungeons could be something like that, if they were harder.
    Edited by RakshaTheKhajiit on April 21, 2015 7:23AM
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  • Cazic
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    When considering all content ESO has to offer, the difficulty is just right. You can have a laid back gaming session and flex your character's muscles in some some PvE/questing, or you can seek out a challenge with a Vet Group Dungeon or some PvP in Cyrodiil.

    ESO does a good job of offering you a variety of activities to partake in, all with varying difficulty. The challenge is there if you're willing to go get it. This works pretty well, as long as you're the type of player that wants to do all of these different things. If all you do is solo PvE/questing, the game can definitely feel too easy and anti climactic at times.

    There's been a lot of discussion about this lately, mostly about the PvE and questing side of things. I can imagine that ZoS wants to be sure that the game is never a frustrating experience for players. Having the seemingly-too-easy PvE content is necessary to keep a good balance. That content is always accessible and there for you to progress your character in a fun, safe way. Sure it might not feel fun after putting in a couple hundred hours, but what does? It's enjoyable, either way.

    I think ESO is doing what it needs to do. There is easy content, challenging content, and everything in between. There's always room for fine tuning, and increasing the difficulty a bit for the solo PvE and questing experience couldn't hurt. But I don't think any major additions or changes to the game are needed when it comes to the overall difficulty.
  • Aballister
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    To be honest, for me it's not that it's too easy or too hard, it's just so much of a grind.
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  • bertenburnyb16_ESO
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.
    you forgot the option.. "so stupidly easy a monkey can bang his head on keyboard and still own"
    oh I remember the days before veteran content was nerfed, that was fun, I was halfway through it with my second char when it was nerfed, oboy the dissapointment
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  • spoqster
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.
    I have made multiple posts regarding this matter. There are quite a few ways to increase the difficulty without making the game harder to play for new players or more time consuming to level alts.

    One way is to voluntarily apply a player debuff on character creation that rewards you with achievements and only applies to questing PvE. (Essentially a difficulty slider.)

    Another way is to adjust the levels of side quests in a way that increases the levels of some side quests in ever y zone, so that more experienced players find solo pve challenges in every zone, and less experienced players can come back later or with friends to beat these elite quests.
  • Dahveed
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    I do not have a VR character yet and I find ESO too easy.
    spoqster wrote: »
    I have made multiple posts regarding this matter. There are quite a few ways to increase the difficulty without making the game harder to play for new players or more time consuming to level alts.

    One way is to voluntarily apply a player debuff on character creation that rewards you with achievements and only applies to questing PvE. (Essentially a difficulty slider.)

    Another way is to adjust the levels of side quests in a way that increases the levels of some side quests in ever y zone, so that more experienced players find solo pve challenges in every zone, and less experienced players can come back later or with friends to beat these elite quests.

    I have suggested something almost identical to this on another thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/164917/eso-needs-a-simple-difficulty-slider/p1

    If you want to go check it out and leave your thoughts I'd appreciate it!
  • Robotmafia
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    there is hard and easy content like in most mmos.. aslong as the hard content doesn't get nerfed to often its good as is
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  • Tabbycat
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    I do not have a VR character yet and I find ESO just right.
    Game is obviously much easier now than it was during the long term beta test. But I don't really mind. I already killed Molag Bal (well not really kill.. he's a Daedric Prince after all) the first time around so I'm not really in a hurry to do it again. I'm mostly just playing casual because work and school take up most of my time.

    If I was playing hard core, well I dunno. I haven't hit Craglorn yet so I can't give an opinion of the difficulty of it one way or the other.
    Edited by Tabbycat on April 21, 2015 11:57AM
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  • Vaerth
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    Alphashado wrote: »
    There has been some debate on this issue lately. I am curious about a more detailed demographic. Please leave a comment in order to keep this poll active so we can get as many votes as possible.

    Do not like the way it play? Then try out something else?
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  • Alphashado
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alphashado wrote: »
    There has been some debate on this issue lately. I am curious about a more detailed demographic. Please leave a comment in order to keep this poll active so we can get as many votes as possible.

    Do not like the way it play? Then try out something else?

    /facepalm
  • reften
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    If you're in the VR levels, and want a challenge, go fight in PvP!
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  • Shunravi
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.
    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alphashado wrote: »
    There has been some debate on this issue lately. I am curious about a more detailed demographic. Please leave a comment in order to keep this poll active so we can get as many votes as possible.

    Do not like the way it play? Then try out something else?

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  • UrQuan
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.
    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alphashado wrote: »
    There has been some debate on this issue lately. I am curious about a more detailed demographic. Please leave a comment in order to keep this poll active so we can get as many votes as possible.

    Do not like the way it play? Then try out something else?
    Ah, so I see you've completely missed the point of this poll... Unlike many polls posted on these forums, this one was clearly set up in an unbiased manner (ie. with a neutrally phrased question and neutrally phrased voting options) with the intent clearly being to get an idea how people feel about the topic, rather than trying to push any agenda.
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  • wraith808
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.
    UrQuan wrote: »
    Vaerth wrote: »
    Alphashado wrote: »
    There has been some debate on this issue lately. I am curious about a more detailed demographic. Please leave a comment in order to keep this poll active so we can get as many votes as possible.

    Do not like the way it play? Then try out something else?
    Ah, so I see you've completely missed the point of this poll... Unlike many polls posted on these forums, this one was clearly set up in an unbiased manner (ie. with a neutrally phrased question and neutrally phrased voting options) with the intent clearly being to get an idea how people feel about the topic, rather than trying to push any agenda.

    Yes, it's actually one of the better phrased polls I've seen on the forums.
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  • Alphashado
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    I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.
    At over 300 votes, we have probably squeaked about as much out of this poll as we can, as that is more votes than the typical poll on this forum receives. We all know that these polls cannot be considered gospel, but over 300 votes is as much of an accurate representation as we can hope for considering limited exposure.

    So the results are about as close to a 50/50 split as I have ever seen on any poll here, with a very slight tilt towards "just right".

    I'm not sure what ZoS can do here, as any major change in difficulty would massively change the results.

    My personal opinion is that CP shouldn't be available to characters under level 50. While I believe 1-50 is balanced just right for the average new player, it is certainly very easy for an experienced ESO player already w/o any CP. Adding CP to alternate characters just makes it even easier and this will continue to become more of an issue down the road as people earn more and more CP. So just remove CP from any character under level 50 and that problem is solved.

    Another part of the problem in my opinion is that classes and abilities are adjusted to match endgame content (Vet dungeons, trials, DSA etc) which the vast majority of the community finds to be plenty challenging. So this leads to certain class/build combos that are very powerful in lower level quest content.

    Perhaps some kind of optional debuff food or something is the answer. You could give it a slightly worthwhile kickback like a 5% increase in gold and XP. I think it would have to be instantly removed when joining a group though. Any debuff in my opinion would have to be set up to effect individuals for solo content only. Otherwise we would be opening an epic can of worms.

    I don't know what the answer is. I guess this is something for a research & development team to deal with.

    Edited by Alphashado on April 22, 2015 10:52AM
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    I vote 'Yes.'

    Most of it's too easy, some of it's just right, and some things are so OP it's ridiculous.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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