(POLL) - Do you find ESO too easy, too hard, or just right.

Alphashado · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.

Dahveed wrote: »

I'm only level 32 right now, but on my Nord Dragon Knight I feel like almost all NPCs and solo quests are pushovers. Admittedly I haven't done much group content, but the solo questing experience has felt really laughable, to the point where I literally do not even take damage anymore.

I think it makes the important Main Quest missions seem very anti-climactic when I can kill the last "boss" in a few seconds without taking any damage... and I'm not even that good.

I'm more of a solo Elder Scrolls guy than I am a group MMO guy, so my opinion is probably biased. I'm of the opinion that at least half of the fights should be against NPCs that actually force me to think outside of bashing 1 or 2 buttons.

In all fairness, a Nord, Imperial, or Redgard DK is probably the most EZ mode combo in the game. Has been since launch. Hell any DK is EZmode for that matter unless you are using a terrible build. All I'm saying is that DK is by far the easiest class to level up and will most certainly rip through 1-50 content with most builds. Templar would be 2cnd easiest, followed by Sorc/NB which are about the same.

Sacadon · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

I remember way back before they nerfed VR and my first char to level was a templar. This was back when there was all this beta hype about being a high-damage dealer with self-heals. Then they nerfed templars. So with little to no DPS due to resource issues, blazing spear as the only CC to work with (damn good one though) and doing most of it solo (conservatively 98%). Some of the areas were challenging and as a result highly rewarding.

Lately, having been grinding through Cadwell's gold, I did notice that they've upped the difficulty just a little bit which is good. Much more dynamic NPCs in terms of combat and skills used. They move around and run from you vs. standing still. You have to choose between locking down a mage, healer or bow depending upon your build and situation.

For example, yesterday one of the mini-bosses (spirit of guile) in a Bankorai quest I cannot recall was stealthed, then proceeded to ambush me and drop a South Tether ultimate on me. I 1was so blatantly shocked and excited I didn't even fight back and immediately wiped. This was just plain awesome. To be clear, I would rather be PvP-ing though.

Alphashado · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.

Sacadon wrote: »

I remember way back before they nerfed VR and my first char to level was a templar. This was back when there was all this beta hype about being a high-damage dealer with self-heals. Then they nerfed templars. So with little to no DPS due to resource issues, blazing spear as the only CC to work with (damn good one though) and doing most of it solo (conservatively 98%). Some of the areas were challenging and as a result highly rewarding.

Lately, having been grinding through Cadwell's gold, I did notice that they've upped the difficulty just a little bit which is good. Much more dynamic NPCs in terms of combat and skills used. They move around and run from you vs. standing still. You have to choose between locking down a mage, healer or bow depending upon your build and situation.

For example, yesterday one of the mini-bosses (spirit of guile) in a Bankorai quest I cannot recall was stealthed, then proceeded to ambush me and drop a South Tether ultimate on me. I 1was so blatantly shocked and excited I didn't even fight back and immediately wiped. This was just plain awesome. To be clear, I would rather be PvP-ing though.

I have noticed that as well taking this NB through Vet Rank zones. They are using CC, spreading out alot more, and they are even dodge rolling when they see you charge up a heavy attack. It certainly makes it more fun.

UrQuan · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

Overall I think the difficulty is too easy, but it's useful to break it down by type of content.

Levels 1-50 PVE questing is too easy. I think the only times I've ever actually died while questing below vet ranks were in the first week or two of playing, or when I've been playing without actually paying attention (while paying more attention to what's on TV, or whatever).

VR PVE questing is too easy, but not by as much as the level 1-50. I do notice an increase in difficulty of the general PVE once you hit your first Vet zone, but I still find solo PVE questing to be a bit too easy there. I understand that at launch it was too hard and needed a nerf, but the nerf seems to have hit a bit too hard to me.

Dolmens and world bosses are about right if you're soloing them or doing them with just 2 people. Any more than that and they're way too easy.

Some of the forced solo instances used to be too hard (pre-nerf Doshia anyone?) for forced solo (ie. they were definitely doable solo if you had decent gear and a good solo build, but they were hard enough that I can totally understand why people might want to have the option to bring a friend), but now they've been nerfed and are too easy.

The group dungeons are probably about right, although it would be nice to be able to set them to scale to a bit of a higher difficulty if you want more of a challenge (I know that's what the vet dungeons are for, but I'm talking about something where you set the enemies to scale to 1-5 levels above the level of your group leader, or some other way to be able to choose an increased challenge without changing the dungeon).

Xupacabra · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too hard.

I voted on hard just because we never know witch skills are buged or not, same as using some traits...

skarvika · April 2015

It really depends for me. Sometimes I think it's a breeze, sometimes I'm left swearing and wishing I was dead.

Audigy · April 2015

I do not have a VR character yet and I find ESO too easy.

I find the class & story line quests ok, could be a bit harder though. Anything else however is a pushover, no real challenges await you there and its a pity as it was different in Beta.

Right now I can solo all the group bosses, dungeon bosses or anchors. Where is the point in this? Maybe I am just an OP sorceress with 2 pets, but ya I just find it really weird.

idk · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

The question is rather mute. The game is played by people of various skill levels. What's essy for one is impossible for others.

While I found the vet leveling content a decent challenge at times (some fights) before the first nerf and extreemly easy now, I know there are some that are challenged and the Devs try to take all into account.

Shunravi · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

The question is rather mute. The game is played by people of various skill levels. What's essy for one is impossible for others.

While I found the vet leveling content a decent challenge at times (some fights) before the first nerf and extreemly easy now, I know there are some that are challenged and the Devs try to take all into account.

^^^

Alphashado · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.

Audigy wrote: »

I find the class & story line quests ok, could be a bit harder though. Anything else however is a pushover, no real challenges await you there and its a pity as it was different in Beta.

Right now I can solo all the group bosses, dungeon bosses or anchors. Where is the point in this? Maybe I am just an OP sorceress with 2 pets, but ya I just find it really weird.

I find it incredibly interesting that someone who has been around since launch does not have a VR character. Honestly @Audigy, you are missing so much. I'm curious why you choose to stay below 50? Or are you just very casual?

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

The question is rather mute. The game is played by people of various skill levels. What's essy for one is impossible for others.

While I found the vet leveling content a decent challenge at times (some fights) before the first nerf and extreemly easy now, I know there are some that are challenged and the Devs try to take all into account.

The point isn't moot when you consider the objective of the poll, which was to get a semi-accurate indication of how people perceive difficulty in this game and skill levels are one of many variables in that dynamic.

Audigy · April 2015

I do not have a VR character yet and I find ESO too easy.

Alphashado wrote: »

Audigy wrote: »

I find the class & story line quests ok, could be a bit harder though. Anything else however is a pushover, no real challenges await you there and its a pity as it was different in Beta.

Right now I can solo all the group bosses, dungeon bosses or anchors. Where is the point in this? Maybe I am just an OP sorceress with 2 pets, but ya I just find it really weird.

I find it incredibly interesting that someone who has been around since launch does not have a VR character. Honestly @Audigy, you are missing so much. I'm curious why you choose to stay below 50? Or are you just very casual?

Oh, I saw the VR zones in Beta and I don't really need to push it as I will never raid. When I got ESO I always thought that they would add new VR zones later, but they didn't (except Craglorn which is heavy group focused). So my motivation to reach VR 10 isn't really there.
Besides that, my life is very busy so that playing is usually limited to a few hours a month.

And if I play, well then I usually quest, read the books I find or talk to NPC´s. I play two chars, A Redguard and a Breton, one is Tank and the other a healer / pet master. I really enjoy the game if I am online and I want to play this week for a few hours if I manage. Writing at the forum is less a problem, but playing is as I hate playing and then having to stop during a quest chain so I wait until I really have time to finish it.

I also never finished Skyrim

where I was about half way through the main story line, when I started with the ESO Beta and I didn't touch the vampire expansion yet.

glak · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

DK is tanky, heals itself OK, and has good DPS solo. Sorc has crazy burst DPS now like DK was before 1.6 and dies less. But my Templar takes quite a bit longer to get through content.

Overland minus world bosses - too easy
Everything else - just right

Aeladiir · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

Davadin wrote: »

domenthechief wrote: »

Yesterday, I finished the entire Cadwell silver in 5 hours. With my VET1.

Final bosses and even groups of mobs were easy as hell, even at VET4+. It was just sad. The only time I died was when I jumped off a cliff with my fellow guar.

what's your class/build?

ZOS, NERF!

PS: unless you say DK, then don't nerf lol

DK dps (bow + dual wield) w/ death wind set

Aeladiir · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

domenthechief wrote: »

Yesterday, I finished the entire Cadwell silver in 5 hours. With my VET1.

Final bosses and even groups of mobs were easy as hell, even at VET4+. It was just sad. The only time I died was when I jumped off a cliff with my fellow guar.

Just out of curiosity, how did you manage to not gain any vet levels doing the entire Silver quest line?

Entire Silver questline =/= entire zone quests, mind you. Finishing Silver means finishing 4 zone story quests per zone each zone (the ones listed in Almanac). They feature major villians of those zones (like Angof in Glenumbra, that sorcerer in Alik'r, etc.).

I got a whole bunch of CP, though, because of enlightenment. As far as XP is concerned, I got like 500k (50%).

BBSooner · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

Everything besides certain delves in craglorn and vet dungeons are pretty soloable and/or easy. I understand that solo questing through Tamriel (including silver/gold) had to come with the expectation that the lowest common denominator (bads) need to be able to complete it so I've come to terms with an overly simplified questing experience.

If I was given the choice however I'd prefer a higher difficulty for my own selfish enjoyment.

Alphashado · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.

Interesting poll results. Couldn't be more evenly split.

krees28b14_ESO · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

I have 2 vet characters. One was a NB that I leveled when they were broke, underpowered and disappointing with a bow. I played the entire game with a friend so we duo'ed everything and the vet ranks were tough pre-nerf. We died but had a ton of fun doing so, but eventually we got everything done. The second is a DK. I remember they cut back on the vet level difficulty since I played it the first time and have to say that yes, it is to easy. I solo pretty much everything including public dungeons and bosses. Maybe something between the two is where they should be aiming.

Alphashado · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.

krees28b14_ESO wrote: »

I have 2 vet characters. One was a NB that I leveled when they were broke, underpowered and disappointing with a bow. I played the entire game with a friend so we duo'ed everything and the vet ranks were tough pre-nerf. We died but had a ton of fun doing so, but eventually we got everything done. The second is a DK. I remember they cut back on the vet level difficulty since I played it the first time and have to say that yes, it is to easy. I solo pretty much everything including public dungeons and bosses. Maybe something between the two is where they should be aiming.

Perhaps. But if this poll is remotely accurate, the opinions on difficulty are pretty much split right down the middle which would indicate that any change in either direction and you would have an unhappy majority.

david.haypreub18_ESO · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

I find solo stuff too easy, and never really much of a challenge.

Yet, some of the group dungeons border on too hard (at least for your average pick up group). Even a good group can expect quite a few wipes.

So I'd like to see the overland zones and delves cranked up a notch, and the group dungeons on VR level stay the same or down a notch.

Chuggernaut · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

Aside from challenges and some group content the game is pretty easy.

ssewallb14_ESO · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

It's more a difficulty progression issue than overall difficulty. The game actually gets easier as you level and unlock more powerful abilities. It should gradually get more difficult to prepare you for harder content. Instead it gets progressively easier 1-50, VR content is even easier with everything unlocked, then veteran dungeons are dropped on you (gigantic skill gap), then Craglorn (now we're getting easier for some reason?), then trials/vdsa (back to harder). I always feel kinda bad for the guy who tries his first vet pledge at VR5ish completely untuned, with no idea what he's getting himself into. I mean how would he know, he's been playing 1-50 content and VR zones that offer absolutely nothing to prepare him for that kind of content.

UrQuan · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

It's more a difficulty progression issue than overall difficulty. The game actually gets easier as you level and unlock more powerful abilities. It should gradually get more difficult to prepare you for harder content. Instead it gets progressively easier 1-50, VR content is even easier with everything unlocked, then veteran dungeons are dropped on you (gigantic skill gap), then Craglorn (now we're getting easier for some reason?), then trials/vdsa (back to harder). I always feel kinda bad for the guy who tries his first vet pledge at VR5ish completely untuned, with no idea what he's getting himself into. I mean how would he know, he's been playing 1-50 content and VR zones that offer absolutely nothing to prepare him for that kind of content.

Hey, that was actually me the other day! I've been playing since launch, but never did a vet dungeon before because my real life friends weren't all VR yet, and I didn't feel confident enough in my skills to try one with a PUG. I was on a VR5 character, my 2 friends were VR1, and we had a 4th from one of my guilds who was VR14 join us. The VR14 who joined us had done the dungeon before (Vet Elden Hollow), so his advice on the final boss was invaluable. It was difficult (especially the final boss), but we didn't wipe once, and I didn't feel like we were being carried by the VR14 either - having him along was definitely helpful, but it was his advice on strategy for the last boss that was what helped the most. He contributed good DPS for sure, but as long as we had his advice I'm sure we could have done almost as well with a less experienced DPS. I think we only had a total of 4 deaths between us all in the entire dungeon. Got a gold key out of it! Actually, I felt like it was just right on the difficulty level. I had a blast, and I felt like it was a good test for my healer.

Preyfar · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

Alphashado wrote: »

My personal opinion is that the 1-50 zones might be a tad easy, but I believe that's ok because there needs to be a place for new players to learn the game. Considering ESO as a whole, I am currently satisfied with the level of difficulty.

My only issue is that none of the boss characters feel like they pose a challenge anymore, and if you die once, the difficulty in fighting them drops by seemingly 50%. It's just become far, far too easy. Not saying the game needs to be hard, but... it's FAR too easy as it is now.

Alphashado · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.

Preyfar wrote: »

Alphashado wrote: »

My personal opinion is that the 1-50 zones might be a tad easy, but I believe that's ok because there needs to be a place for new players to learn the game. Considering ESO as a whole, I am currently satisfied with the level of difficulty.

My only issue is that none of the boss characters feel like they pose a challenge anymore, and if you die once, the difficulty in fighting them drops by seemingly 50%. It's just become far, far too easy. Not saying the game needs to be hard, but... it's FAR too easy as it is now.

I think we need to be VERY careful with broad generalizations. For example, there aren't many people complaining that Dungeons and Vet Dungeons, Trials, DSA etc are too easy. So if ZoS decided to ramp up the difficulty in a blanket buff for the entire game, they would be making some of this content ridiculous hard that most people would be unhappy with. Seems to me that if anything needs to be ramped up, it would be the 1-50 zones specifically. Or maybe a few other spots here or there.

I'm not against buffing a few things here and there. but endgame content is just fine the way it is and we HAVE to make sure that there is content scaled appropriately to new players that don't have the benefit of gear, game mechanics, and Champion points.

Another issue that I think is skewing the opinions in one way or the other is which class they are playing. Someone playing a low level DK as a new player is gonna find it much easier than a Sorc or a NB as their first character.

UrQuan · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

Alphashado wrote: »

I'm not against buffing a few things here and there. but endgame content is just fine the way it is and we HAVE to make sure that there is content scaled appropriately to new players that don't have the benefit of gear, game mechanics, and Champion points.

I'd agree with that for sure. What I'd like to see, though, is an option to play the endgame content on a harder difficulty. I know, that already exists with going for the gold key on a vet dungeon pledge, which I think is very cool (it wasn't until I did my first vet pledge the other day that I realized getting the gold key isn't just a matter of making sure you kill all of the mini bosses, but it actually requires you to use a mechanic that makes the final boss fight significantly more difficult - I think it's awesome!), but I would like to see an additional option on top of that to make things more difficult still for those who already have their end game gear and such.

Alphashado wrote: »

Another issue that I think is skewing the opinions in one way or the other is which class they are playing. Someone playing a low level DK as a new player is gonna find it much easier than a Sorc or a NB as their first character.

I kind of agree with this, in that I do find that some classes seem to have an easier time of it than others (I tend to find things are most difficult as a nightblade, and easiest as a templar, but others may disagree), but I play all classes, and I think that overall the difficulty of the game is lower than I would like.

As you said above (and as I said in a previous post), though, it really depends on the content. I'm happy with the difficulty level of the group dungeons, for example.

Anentet · April 2015

I do not have a VR character yet and I find ESO just right.

So far I found it easy - but to a relaxing point, which I like. However I do know some that actually find it hard because they don't learn the mechanics of dodge, block, and releasing from stun..

Dre4dwolfb14_ESO · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

I could almost play blindfolded.

Shunravi · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO too easy.

I play nightblade and have played nightblade since beta. Just thought I would throw that out there.

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO · April 2015

I have at least one VR character and I find ESO just right.

I find the difficulty level OK for the low level of skill and attention I am prepared to devote to a computer game. However, if the game is tuned for a "bad" player like myself, it must be utterly boring to those who are prepared to spend a lot more time and effort on their gaming.

Dahveed · April 2015

I do not have a VR character yet and I find ESO too easy.

It's amazing how it's pretty much split right down the middle, and that NOBODY finds anything too hard.

Welcome to 2015, where companies are so afraid of their competition that difficult content just doesn't exist anymore.