Motifs and Ring of Mara are in the Crown Shop!!!

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2015

Kallipsoe wrote: »

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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Kallipsoe wrote: »

No issues with any of these items. Blue motifs are a dime a dozen in the economy and players will have to decide if they want to farm, spend 30k gold, or $15 to get a purple motif. This is definitely not P2W, yet.

I would love to know where you buy your crowns... 5000 for $15? Do they go on sale often?

Last I looked 5000 crows was $40.

@jamesharv2005ub17_ESO yes 5000 crowns is $40. But one "Rare Motif" is only 1,500 crowns, meaning $15.

Dwemer and Imperial were 5000 each tho.

Victus · April 2015

Hahaha I still have my unused Ring of Mara on my main when I started playing on release...

Zhoyzu · April 2015

if 1 month sub nets you 1500 crowns, thats 15$ for 1500... 5000 crowns is about 50$. yea in game is cheaper i dont see how this affects anything at all.

Curious when ZoS gonna sell something worth the price tag in crown store. Afraid of how bloated the DLC costs are going to be.....

Vaerth · April 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

You can view all new Crown Store items and prices in this thread, too: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/164797/crown-store-updates-and-new-items#latest

Good bye to my motif farming to make gold, ehhh

Agobi · April 2015

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Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Rings of mara is a yes for me. Motifs ... if they have the purple and imperial motifs welp good by wasting 60k gold :-D

....d I'm concerned this is going to just be the start of a barrage of these kinds of things.

Of course it is.

Cash shop is where they will get their profit from now on,,,so just sit back and "enjoy" the ride ;/

(wtb subscription based mmo....)

Master_Fluff · April 2015

No level requirement for motifs? Come on, that's a slap in the face for all of us who spent time getting our crafters material level to max. Not nice, ZOS. Not nice at all.

Vaerth · April 2015

Why not try adding new motifs like Thieves guild and different versions of Daedric?

vovus69 · April 2015

I would really love to sell motifs in game for crowns. Let's say 100 crowns per blue would be great. Will see. Perhaps we will find a way...

Naivefanboi · April 2015

deadlock007 wrote: »

All motifs. Rare pack (Daedric, Ancient Elf, Primal and Barbaric) is 5,000 crowns, Imperial is 5,000 and Dwemer is 5,000. Individual Rares are 1,500 and Faction packs are 500 and individual blues are 200.

i just threw up in my mouth some. working as intendid right zos? glad we could get this out before any templar fixes high five!lol

CombatBeard wrote: »

This is bad news. Might as well just put vr14 characters in there while they're at it.

actually it would solve their vr14 problem. dont have to remove ranks, no one gets mad. dont wanna level? buy a vr14 why not wow does it. het can we buy gold too wow does that also. plus a sub rofl.

wraith808 · April 2015

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Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

I don't see the problem here. The only way to efficiently farm motifs (re-logging) was really, REALLY boring, so I shed no tears for it's demise!

Oh, so instead of fixing the game system, you're happy to be able to pay out cash to bypass it instead of them making it work better in the first place, instead leaving it broken? Same deal with the upcoming EXP potions... veteran exp gain was broken not so long ago and the rewards for quests, bosses, etc. are a relative fraction of what they were. Instead of fixing what they broke, people are clamoring to shell out money.

And posters wonder why game companies nowadays don't bother....

That's not a bug, though. It was a way around the correct working of the system, just like deleting toons.

Flaminir · April 2015

ViciousWayz wrote: »

So? Let people pay some money to ZOS for it instead of to Gold farmers. This is coming from a guy who has made millions off of selling motifs. It's about time people get that choice.

Exactly.

Selling motif's is the very definition of 'Cosmetics & Convenience' which ZoS have always said they would do.

This is not a surprise, it was always going to happen.

The prices are high enough that while the in-game versions will probably drop in price they won't be worthless, and ZoS has to make money somewhere...

Given the stuff the COULD put in the store which would have performance issues, this is relatively tame & a reasonable compromise I think.

Attorneyatlawl · April 2015

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Cuyler wrote: »

It took me ~2wks to farm all the dwemer pages in which I got a barbaric and daedric in the process. I purchased the ancient elf (35k) and primal (20k) with in game gold. This doesn't really bother me. It's cosmetic and convenient.

It would be "convenient" to buy all of the rare pvp gear sets, Master weapons, and hard mode raid gear too, by that measure. I mean, you can spend two weeks farming one of those, too! Who cares if someone can spend two weeks farming great gear by paying up instead of farming motifs like you did, right? Slippery slope in the first place and a bad sign to see them already selling valuable in game items that are part of the economy for cash. I'm concerned we may see an Archeage repeat here...

Im not. I think Zenimax has much more integrity than Trion ever did.

If you're serious, I've got a bridge for sale... money is money, and companies are there to make it.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

There goes the economy selling motifs may look like cosmetic but people farm them then sell them on and buy other stuff way to go you may have just ruined your game, the question we must ask ours selfs when will it end up like swtor and go b2w

Yep... cheap respecs means more gold in the system too since it doesn't go into a moneysink and out of the game instead of to another player. Add in motifs for sale on the crown store for cash, and that's more gold people keep to inflate prices on top end gear like Hawkeye and Morag Tong, Shadow Walker, etc. And with motifs going down in value you can't earn gold as quickly either. This is a very bad precedent that unfortunately likely portends full on pay to win by letting you buy champ exp and items that can be sold for gold to buy the best sets in the game like mentioned above. Le sigh, that sure was quick . It hasn't even been a month since the subscription requirement was dropped before this started rolling in.

c0rp · April 2015

vovus69 wrote: »

I would really love to sell motifs in game for crowns. Let's say 100 crowns per blue would be great. Will see. Perhaps we will find a way...

Im about 100% positive there isn't a way.

Paulhewhewria · April 2015

All I got to say is I feel bad for GinaBruno for having to post it because surly they saw all the angry villagers coming.

vovus69 · April 2015

I think next step will be to put Morag Tong and Hawk Eye in crown store for ~1000 crowns or so... Will see how long will it take for zos...

Casdha · April 2015

I don't see the point in paying $40 for the Imperial Motif when you can get the Imperial Edition pack for Half that, (although I cant see the amount of crowns the Imperial bundle actually costs as mine just says Purchased)

Slurg · April 2015

Anath_Q wrote: »

Now anyone can buy the Rare Style Master achievement! Why not skip to the chase and just add crown store purchases to the achievements? After 1000 purchases we could unlock the "greedy green" armor color!

Awesome idea! Oh and now that ZOS is in the business of putting the items needed for in-game achievements in the crown store, when should we expect to see creature collectibles available for purchase so we can unlock those achievement dyes too?

CombatBeard · April 2015

Comming up next week, everything from apples to yerba mate! "For your convieniance".

EQBallzz · April 2015

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Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Rings of mara is a yes for me. Motifs ... if they have the purple and imperial motifs welp good by wasting 60k gold :-D

Not looking good if just weeks after the buy to play conversion we're already seeing valuable items for sale in the cash shop, devaluing the ones people earned or bought in game immediately. Rare or valuable items shouldn't be for sale for cash in the first place and I'm concerned this is going to just be the start of a barrage of these kinds of things.

I agree. I wouldn't consider this P2W or anything but it seriously devalues the game. I mean what is the point of the game if you can just buy shortcuts to everything? That being said I can't say I'm surprised. This game is on the fast track to garbage bin status. Neverwinter here we come.

vovus69 · April 2015

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vovus69 wrote: »

I would really love to sell motifs in game for crowns. Let's say 100 crowns per blue would be great. Will see. Perhaps we will find a way...

Im about 100% positive there isn't a way.

Well, those motifs from packs are not bind on pickup, so there is some room... Will see.

Nifty2g · April 2015

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CombatBeard wrote: »

This is bad news. Might as well just put vr14 characters in there while they're at it.

Armor and weapons and damage boosters would be bad news. I don't see how these cosmetics are anywhere near bad news.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

CombatBeard wrote: »

This is bad news. Might as well just put vr14 characters in there while they're at it.

What? All a motif does is let you make armor that looks cosmetically a certain way. It does nothing to add to the stats on the armor.

It affects the game economy and the ability for players to earn gold. Also it's simply the begging of a barrage of crown store items that will eventually lead to being able to purchase anything with real money.

This. It's rather obvious what this trend is going towards. And I'd also point out that gold can buy top end gear in ESO, so saving 200k gold that you'd have otherwise spent directly benefits your character power as you can go buy a nice set item instead. Add in that it hits the game economy by devaluing ways to earn gold while also inflating the economy some since you can get skill respecs too. I'm pretty sure we're going to see EXP potions that boost your champion xp soon and then it's game over, outright pay to win directly (champion points boost your stats, passives, and character strength, so earning at a high rate would give you a huge boost over others who don't pay up to win in a very short time, and within matter of weeks to a couple of months the gap would become huge).

I find it hard to take anything you post seriously anymore, just feels as if you're looking for things to pick at now. Who cares if motifs are on the crown store, it's just as Zenimax said small convenience items, stop posting stuff like oh I fear such and such gear will be on the crown store, it obviously wont the general response is against it.
As for EXP Potions, you're going to use them, you know you will, everyone else will too. Zenimax knows you, you and I know it so don't bother with the same old P2W comment, you get 1500 crowns for subscribing each month that will be used on EXP Potions, Zenimax need a certain item to keep people subscribed don't they?

Same old boring argument annoying to read now

nerevarine1138 · April 2015

I'm not thrilled, but at least the prices are absurdly high. If you want to spend $50 on a Dwemer motif, knock yourself out.

Holycannoli · April 2015

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MissBizz wrote: »

As well, that Senche-Leopord is only available for a couple days..

Yeah, if I buy that thing, and see a "different shaded leopard" mount in a month Ill be pretty upset lol.

That's exactly what will happen. There's I think two more senche mounts due for release. They will probably be limited time purchases in order to drain everyone of their crowns before the first DLC is announced.

Sinbaar · April 2015

I am totally fine with motofs in the shop. Still, no p2w, and 5000 crowns for imperial and dwemer isn't THAT cheap...well...it isn't at all, so if soemone decides to spend money on that - go ahead. More money for the devs

Attorneyatlawl · April 2015

Agobi wrote: »

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Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Rings of mara is a yes for me. Motifs ... if they have the purple and imperial motifs welp good by wasting 60k gold :-D

....d I'm concerned this is going to just be the start of a barrage of these kinds of things.

Of course it is.

Cash shop is where they will get their profit from now on,,,so just sit back and "enjoy" the ride ;/

(wtb subscription based mmo....)

Considering how vehemently ZOS insisted that free/buy to play was so much worse than a subscription model and the basically would never consider doing it, I was hopeful this game wouldn't go to it and the pay to win model. Guess I was wrong... I'll have to take a closer look at CU's progress since I was a kickstarter alpha backer in 2013 for them. Maybe it won't end up as good a game or maybe it will, but at least it won't be pay to win

and you know someone didn't just buy that awesome gear and looks for cash but actually played the game to get it.

Nestor · April 2015

Yep, time to sell all the Motifs I have been hoarding. I was doling them out a set a week to the economy to each Kiosk the guilds I was in would get. Tonight I dump them and never pick another one up again.

Good thing I maxed my bank out recently, at least I don't need the game gold for anything now.

Galanaar · April 2015

They should have added new motifs, making them available in the Crown store with some available as drops, while leaving the current ones in game and slightly increasing the drop rate.

EQBallzz · April 2015

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

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Agobi wrote: »

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Rings of mara is a yes for me. Motifs ... if they have the purple and imperial motifs welp good by wasting 60k gold :-D

....d I'm concerned this is going to just be the start of a barrage of these kinds of things.

Of course it is.

Cash shop is where they will get their profit from now on,,,so just sit back and "enjoy" the ride ;/

(wtb subscription based mmo....)

Considering how vehemently ZOS insisted that free/buy to play was so much worse than a subscription model and the basically would never consider doing it, I was hopeful this game wouldn't go to it and the pay to win model. Guess I was wrong... I'll have to take a closer look at CU's progress since I was a kickstarter alpha backer in 2013 for them. Maybe it won't end up as good a game or maybe it will, but at least it won't be pay to win and you know someone didn't just buy that awesome gear and looks for cash but actually played the game to get it.

What is CU? I may be in the market for something else.

Anath_Q · April 2015

Slurg wrote: »

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Anath_Q wrote: »

Now anyone can buy the Rare Style Master achievement! Why not skip to the chase and just add crown store purchases to the achievements? After 1000 purchases we could unlock the "greedy green" armor color!

Awesome idea! Oh and now that ZOS is in the business of putting the items needed for in-game achievements in the crown store, when should we expect to see creature collectibles available for purchase so we can unlock those achievement dyes too?

Gasp! Yes!! Ooooh, and and how about adding for crown purchase the rare fish for the fishing achievements?! Heck, why not go really crazy and offer auto-completion tokens for any and all of the achievements?!

vovus69 · April 2015

Anath_Q wrote: »

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Slurg wrote: »

Anath_Q wrote: »

Now anyone can buy the Rare Style Master achievement! Why not skip to the chase and just add crown store purchases to the achievements? After 1000 purchases we could unlock the "greedy green" armor color!

Awesome idea! Oh and now that ZOS is in the business of putting the items needed for in-game achievements in the crown store, when should we expect to see creature collectibles available for purchase so we can unlock those achievement dyes too?

Gasp! Yes!! Ooooh, and and how about adding for crown purchase the rare fish for the fishing achievements?! Heck, why not go really crazy and offer auto-completion tokens for any and all of the achievements?!

No worries

It will come eventually.