Motifs and Ring of Mara are in the Crown Shop!!!

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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Not looking good if just weeks after the buy to play conversion we're already seeing valuable items for sale in the cash shop, devaluing the ones people earned or bought in game immediately. Rare or valuable items shouldn't be for sale for cash in the first place and I'm concerned this is going to just be the start of a barrage of these kinds of things.

    Well doesn't int eh end anything from crown store is account bond so no selling which means still 60K prices :/
  • Kallipsoe
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    No issues with any of these items. Blue motifs are a dime a dozen in the economy and players will have to decide if they want to farm, spend 30k gold, or $15 to get a purple motif. This is definitely not P2W, yet.
  • c0rp
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    This is bad news. Might as well just put vr14 characters in there while they're at it.

    Armor and weapons and damage boosters would be bad news. I don't see how these cosmetics are anywhere near bad news.

    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    This is bad news. Might as well just put vr14 characters in there while they're at it.

    What? All a motif does is let you make armor that looks cosmetically a certain way. It does nothing to add to the stats on the armor.
  • LameoveR
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    Well, what can i say.
    Thanks, @ZOS !
    You saved time and ingame gold for many people, i think.
    *curious when master's weapons and high-end sets will be available in crown store*
    Edited by LameoveR on April 13, 2015 4:42PM
  • MissBizz
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    Kallipsoe wrote: »
    No issues with any of these items. Blue motifs are a dime a dozen in the economy and players will have to decide if they want to farm, spend 30k gold, or $15 to get a purple motif. This is definitely not P2W, yet.

    I would love to know where you buy your crowns... 5000 for $15? Do they go on sale often? ;)
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  • ThisOnePosts
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    So? Let people pay some money to ZOS for it instead of to Gold farmers. This is coming from a guy who has made millions off of selling motifs. It's about time people get that choice.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Cuyler wrote: »
    It took me ~2wks to farm all the dwemer pages in which I got a barbaric and daedric in the process. I purchased the ancient elf (35k) and primal (20k) with in game gold. This doesn't really bother me. It's cosmetic and convenient.

    It would be "convenient" to buy all of the rare pvp gear sets, Master weapons, and hard mode raid gear too, by that measure. I mean, you can spend two weeks farming one of those, too! Who cares if someone can spend two weeks farming great gear by paying up instead of farming motifs like you did, right? Slippery slope in the first place and a bad sign to see them already selling valuable in game items that are part of the economy for cash. I'm concerned we may see an Archeage repeat here...
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  • Dark_Blade
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    Seriously?? Stop qqin this is all cosmetic and Not P2W at all
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    MissBizz wrote: »

    I would love to know where you buy your crowns... 5000 for $15? Do they go on sale often? ;)

    Last I looked 5000 crows was $40.
  • Sotha_Sil
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    Can imperial edition owners get another one for free ? thanks
    Edited by Sotha_Sil on April 13, 2015 4:43PM
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  • Sir_Xalvador
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    putting motifs in the crown store i think is a bad idea that would not help the economy of the game and they always say they want to do that ....so y would they put motifs in the crown store bad idea in my opinion
  • timidobserver
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    I would pay 5 million gold for a motif before spending 25 cent on it.
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  • Cuyler
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    It would be "convenient" to buy all of the rare pvp gear sets, Master weapons, and hard mode raid gear too, by that measure. I mean, you can spend two weeks farming one of those, too! Who cares if someone can spend two weeks farming great gear by paying up instead of farming motifs like you did, right? Slippery slope in the first place and a bad sign to see them already selling valuable in game items that are part of the economy for cash. I'm concerned we may see an Archeage repeat here...

    I edited that post for more clarity....please see above. Basically, the crown purchase price should gouge the pockets of the prospective buyer in an effort to deter the average income player from purchasing all of them and destroying the in-game value. If this is the case I'm fine with it.
    Edited by Cuyler on April 13, 2015 4:46PM
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    I don't see the problem here. The only way to efficiently farm motifs (re-logging) was really, REALLY boring, so I shed no tears for it's demise!

    Oh, so instead of fixing the game system, you're happy to be able to pay out cash to bypass it instead of them making it work better in the first place, instead leaving it broken? Same deal with the upcoming EXP potions... veteran exp gain was broken not so long ago and the rewards for quests, bosses, etc. are a relative fraction of what they were. Instead of fixing what they broke, people are clamoring to shell out money.

    And posters wonder why game companies nowadays don't bother....
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  • CombatBeard
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    c0rp wrote: »

    Armor and weapons and damage boosters would be bad news. I don't see how these cosmetics are anywhere near bad news.

    What? All a motif does is let you make armor that looks cosmetically a certain way. It does nothing to add to the stats on the armor.

    It affects the game economy and the ability for players to earn gold. Also it's simply the begging of a barrage of crown store items that will eventually lead to being able to purchase anything with real money.
  • Anath_Q
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    Now anyone can buy the Rare Style Master achievement! Why not skip to the chase and just add crown store purchases to the achievements? After 1000 purchases we could unlock the "greedy green" armor color!
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  • Kallipsoe
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    MissBizz wrote: »

    I would love to know where you buy your crowns... 5000 for $15? Do they go on sale often? ;)

    @MissBizz One purple motif cost 1,500 crowns, the entire pack "meaning a selection of the purple motifs" cost 5000 crowns.

    1,500 crowns cost $15.00.
    5,500 crowns cost $40.00.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/164797/crown-store-updates-and-new-items#latest


  • c0rp
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    It would be "convenient" to buy all of the rare pvp gear sets, Master weapons, and hard mode raid gear too, by that measure. I mean, you can spend two weeks farming one of those, too! Who cares if someone can spend two weeks farming great gear by paying up instead of farming motifs like you did, right? Slippery slope in the first place and a bad sign to see them already selling valuable in game items that are part of the economy for cash. I'm concerned we may see an Archeage repeat here...

    Im not. I think Zenimax has much more integrity than Trion ever did.

    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    There goes the economy selling motifs may look like cosmetic but people farm them then sell them on and buy other stuff way to go you may have just ruined your game, the question we must ask ours selfs when will it end up like swtor and go b2w
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  • c0rp
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    Lol thanks Zeni. Kill us Traders and Farmers. Big GZ for this useless MAXED Bull_***!!

    U really know how to destruct economy. In your RL Marketing and now ingame too. Whats next? Ressources like wood and Ore? Lol lol lol.

    And no, thats no Sarcasm. Thats an Attack to the "Brains" behind Zenimax.

    I know u will delete this but read it first, and next time USE your Brains before u do such.....aaargx..

    I think you over reacting. Most people are still going to pay gold over dishing out $40 for a motif. Big deal if they drop a little bit. Its not like Imperials motifs are going to be 10k or anything.

    Edited by c0rp on April 13, 2015 4:50PM
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • Kallipsoe
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    Anath_Q wrote: »
    Now anyone can buy the Rare Style Master achievement! Why not skip to the chase and just add crown store purchases to the achievements? After 1000 purchases we could unlock the "greedy green" armor color!

    Yes!!!!!! I want the "Greedy Green" armor color!
  • Robbmrp
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    You can view all new Crown Store items and prices in this thread, too: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/164797/crown-store-updates-and-new-items#latest

    Hello @ZOS_GinaBruno,

    Is the Dwemer Motif the full one where you learn everything? Also, are the new Racial Motif's added with Future DLC Content going to be Full Motif's as well?

    Thank you for your time.
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  • MissBizz
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    Kallipsoe wrote: »

    @MissBizz One purple motif cost 1,500 crowns, the entire pack "meaning a selection of the purple motifs" cost 5000 crowns.

    1,500 crowns cost $15.00.
    5,500 crowns cost $40.00.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/164797/crown-store-updates-and-new-items#latest


    Sorry, for some reason as I scanned over I swore they were listed as 5000, but yeah, that's only Dwemer and Imperial at 5000 each.

    5500 Crowns is actually $50 for me. Canadian.
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  • Elsonso
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    I think that the Respec cost (700 crowns) seems a bit low.

    Also, last time I tried to learn Dwemer, it told me that I could not because I was not skilled enough. I need to be Rank 9. If these store bought ones can be used right away, at Rank 1, it will definitely be worth it to simply delete my in-game inventory that I cannot use and purchase the ones from the Store.
    Edited by Elsonso on April 13, 2015 4:55PM
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    It affects the game economy and the ability for players to earn gold. Also it's simply the begging of a barrage of crown store items that will eventually lead to being able to purchase anything with real money.

    This. It's rather obvious what this trend is going towards. And I'd also point out that gold can buy top end gear in ESO, so saving 200k gold that you'd have otherwise spent directly benefits your character power as you can go buy a nice set item instead. Add in that it hits the game economy by devaluing ways to earn gold while also inflating the economy some since you can get skill respecs too. I'm pretty sure we're going to see EXP potions that boost your champion xp soon and then it's game over, outright pay to win directly (champion points boost your stats, passives, and character strength, so earning at a high rate would give you a huge boost over others who don't pay up to win in a very short time, and within matter of weeks to a couple of months the gap would become huge).
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  • Gidorick
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  • Kallipsoe
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    Last I looked 5000 crows was $40.

    @jamesharv2005ub17_ESO yes 5000 crowns is $40. But one "Rare Motif" is only 1,500 crowns, meaning $15.
  • vovus69
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    Ok. So far so good. I presume, end game PVE and PVP sets will be there soon. This is really good :) Will wait :)
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    It affects the game economy and the ability for players to earn gold. Also it's simply the begging of a barrage of crown store items that will eventually lead to being able to purchase anything with real money.

    I dont know a single person who would pay $40 for a motif. So there will still be a ton of people in the game wiling to buy your motifs.
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