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Enlightenment working for ANYONE?

  • Lightword
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    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    It would seem that in at least some cases:

    If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.

    In other cases:
    Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.

    Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +

    Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.

    I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.

    Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.

    Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor :)
    Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).

    I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.

    Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.

    Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
    You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.

    Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.

    It's not an 'exploit' that enlightenment is working as intended for some people and not for you.

    Some trolls in this thread need to stop trying to terrorize people by talking about their 'friends' who have unlimited enlightenment and are 'grinding like madmen' in a 'secret location' and already have 'hundreds' of CP. I'm calling *** on all that right now. Show us proof. You don't because you don't have any.

    Besides, you don't need enlightenment to easily be over 100 CP by now, 1.6 has been up and running for 48 hours. We were into vet ranks 48 hours after release, and it was a LOT harder to level back then.

    Don't be an ***, it is true about 5%-10% of the people playing right now have yet to get any 'E'. ZOS is working on it. Just hope I can make up some CP instead of being left behind.
    Edited by Lightword on March 5, 2015 9:29PM
  • Lightword
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    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    It would seem that in at least some cases:

    If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.

    In other cases:
    Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.

    Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +

    Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.

    I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.

    Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.

    Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor :)
    Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).

    I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.

    Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.

    Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
    You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.

    Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.

    It's not an 'exploit' that enlightenment is working as intended for some people and not for you.

    Some trolls in this thread need to stop trying to terrorize people by talking about their 'friends' who have unlimited enlightenment and are 'grinding like madmen' in a 'secret location' and already have 'hundreds' of CP. I'm calling *** on all that right now. Show us proof. You don't because you don't have any.
    I don't know that any users can provide the proof you are asking for because only ZOS will have reliable information.

    But I am willing to hear them out when they share their experiences and give them a chance to try to demonstrate this instead of calling them names.

    And hopefully we will receive official word soon in what is actually going on with our enlightenment that makes some people receive a lot more enlightened CP than others and some receive none at all (your 3.5 enlightened vs someone else's 4 vs someone else's 1 does not sound like a "fixed rate"). Whether it is unlimited or not is not the biggest issue here, it's the gap being created by some getting a lot more than others for the same effort.

    Or perhaps they will come back and tell us that it was a lottery and you win and I lose.

    Hell, I guess I totally Lost that lottery then...
  • Lied
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    ZOS still has not found my E-spot :(
  • Ysne58
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    Palidon wrote: »
    Well I am glad to hear the enlightened is working for most folks that have posted in this topic. However for me it has not and I have been playing pretty steady since downloading 1.6 on Tuesday with a VR6 Sorcerer. I have not gained any CP points above the initial 70 I got when logging into the game after loading 1.6 and have completed several quests, found numerous new locations,, finished several solo delves, dolmans and world boss locations. It also seems to be taking a lot longer to gain xp for the next veteran rank. I am on the second part of Cladwels quests in the AD zones. Oh well nothing new. Some things work for some of the players and for others it does not.

    Have you filed a ticket on this @Palidon. Enlightenment seems to be working fine for me right now but did take more than 24 hours to kick in, closer to 30 or 32.

  • Lightword
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    Ysne58 wrote: »
    Palidon wrote: »
    Well I am glad to hear the enlightened is working for most folks that have posted in this topic. However for me it has not and I have been playing pretty steady since downloading 1.6 on Tuesday with a VR6 Sorcerer. I have not gained any CP points above the initial 70 I got when logging into the game after loading 1.6 and have completed several quests, found numerous new locations,, finished several solo delves, dolmans and world boss locations. It also seems to be taking a lot longer to gain xp for the next veteran rank. I am on the second part of Cladwels quests in the AD zones. Oh well nothing new. Some things work for some of the players and for others it does not.

    Have you filed a ticket on this @Palidon. Enlightenment seems to be working fine for me right now but did take more than 24 hours to kick in, closer to 30 or 32.
    Lied wrote: »
    ZOS still has not found my E-spot :(

    Still nothing here, the most important part of the patch and its shot, kinda *** when you don't have jack for toons other then your VR14 huh...
  • c0rp
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    NO its not..my enlightenment was gone after 5k of XP leveling, playing a toon for the first time since 1.6
    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
    Werewolf is not equal to Vamps/Bats.
  • Drazek
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    still zero E since patch hit on any of my toons...getting left in the dust sux
  • Lightword
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    I know Right @Drazek
  • Alcast
    Alcast
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    Drazek wrote: »
    still zero E since patch hit on any of my toons...getting left in the dust sux

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  • Lightword
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    So bummed out right no that I can't even play on my day off, just sitting here hitting refresh is more entertaining.
  • Lhorion
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    Had Enlightenment a few times. I did CP during the buff. Then I logged out. Later there was no Enlightenment and - attention - no CP! I was back at 73 CP (before i loggen off I had 74) and the number of XP I would have earned without Enlightenment .
  • Lightword
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    Yep its suicide just get with it:

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  • Gyudan
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno: Some people are stuck at zero due to the complete absence of enlightenment, while others are already farming Champion Points. This is not acceptable. Please end this madness.
    Wololo.
  • Minack
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    Incompetence, thy name is ZOS.
  • Yuke
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    Lhorion wrote: »
    Had Enlightenment a few times. I did CP during the buff. Then I logged out. Later there was no Enlightenment and - attention - no CP! I was back at 73 CP (before i loggen off I had 74) and the number of XP I would have earned without Enlightenment .

    Welcome to my world <3



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  • redspecter23
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    I've had my enlightenment message pop up 3 times since the update and every single time it disappears as soon as I zone. I haven't been able to earn even 1 enlightened xp yet.
  • Lightword
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    Yuke wrote: »
    Lhorion wrote: »
    Had Enlightenment a few times. I did CP during the buff. Then I logged out. Later there was no Enlightenment and - attention - no CP! I was back at 73 CP (before i loggen off I had 74) and the number of XP I would have earned without Enlightenment .

    Welcome to my world <3



    .... :(

    Yep huh, this game, the absence of testing in a PTS is noticeable on the live server. Was there even 'E' in the PTS? Or was it thrown in last minute to the live patch? I am really LOSING CONFIDENCE in the team for not posting more consistently on a hot topic forum. Eve Online would have had Dev's posting every page at a minimum.
  • Lhorion
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    Did I misunderstand someone or are there a few guys that have working Enlightement?
  • Durham
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    Still not working for me im getting 500 exp while others are getting 2k This is beyond broke and totally unfair
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  • Lightword
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    Lhorion wrote: »
    Did I misunderstand someone or are there a few guys that have working Enlightement?

    Most have working a healthy CP System that work perfectly, while about 10% suffer from extreme issues, and the 1% have never ending 'E' as long as they stay logged in and don't change zones.
  • Ysne58
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    Some of us do appear to have enlightenment working. That does include me. If that changes, I'll post here.

    Oh and those of you claiming no testing was done on PTS -- there was lots of testing going on and many testers were urging that it not be released because it wasn't ready. The last version on PTS was 1.6.4, so we didn't even get to test the latest version. Instead of complaining about the lack of testing, how a bout you go on and help look for bugs too.
  • Shader_Shibes
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    Guess im one of the lucky ones........only 5 apprentice cp's away from 12% extra crit!!

  • Lightword
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    Ysne58 wrote: »
    Some of us do appear to have enlightenment working. That does include me. If that changes, I'll post here.

    Oh and those of you claiming no testing was done on PTS -- there was lots of testing going on and many testers were urging that it not be released because it wasn't ready. The last version on PTS was 1.6.4, so we didn't even get to test the latest version. Instead of complaining about the lack of testing, how a bout you go on and help look for bugs too.

    Already reported about 10 of them :smile:
  • Lhorion
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    @Lightword I had a never ending "E", too. But after relogging all the progress was gone. I think there is no "E" at the moment and our UI lies to us.

    There was a familar problem with talent trees weeks ago. Your UI said: Destro Staff 48! You can skill Impulse now! But you could not spend a point because the truth was you had not level 50. I think same is here. A friend of mine grinded 2 CP with the permanent "E". He could not spend those CPs and after relogging he had just 1/4 of the XP he grindet with the perma "E".
  • Lizenya
    Lizenya
    Lightword wrote: »
    Yep huh, this game, the absence of testing in a PTS is noticeable on the live server. Was there even 'E' in the PTS? Or was it thrown in last minute to the live patch? I am really LOSING CONFIDENCE in the team for not posting more consistently on a hot topic forum. Eve Online would have had Dev's posting every page at a minimum.

    No testing on the PTS???

    I've reported exactly this issue on the first day enlightment was active on the PTS. Sent a report ingame and also did on the forum, you can find it here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/150109/enlightment/p1

    And now I'm suffering from the same bug I had on the PTS on live.... Perfect example how much ZOS values our feedback :(
  • McDoogs
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    Lightword wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    It would seem that in at least some cases:

    If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.

    In other cases:
    Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.

    Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +

    Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.

    I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.

    Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.

    Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor :)
    Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).

    I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.

    Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.

    Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
    You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.

    Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.

    It's not an 'exploit' that enlightenment is working as intended for some people and not for you.

    Some trolls in this thread need to stop trying to terrorize people by talking about their 'friends' who have unlimited enlightenment and are 'grinding like madmen' in a 'secret location' and already have 'hundreds' of CP. I'm calling *** on all that right now. Show us proof. You don't because you don't have any.

    Besides, you don't need enlightenment to easily be over 100 CP by now, 1.6 has been up and running for 48 hours. We were into vet ranks 48 hours after release, and it was a LOT harder to level back then.

    Don't be an ***, it is true about 5%-10% of the people playing right now have yet to get any 'E'. ZOS is working on it. Just hope I can make up some CP instead of being left behind.

    I never disputed that some people arent getting enlightenment. I was commenting on the rando trolls popping into the thread claiming that they 'know people' who have unlimited enlightenment, which is bull.
  • Lightword
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    Lhorion wrote: »
    @Lightword I had a never ending "E", too. But after relogging all the progress was gone. I think there is no "E" at the moment and our UI lies to us.

    There was a familar problem with talent trees weeks ago. Your UI said: Destro Staff 48! You can skill Impulse now! But you could not spend a point because the truth was you had not level 50. I think same is here. A friend of mine grinded 2 CP with the permanent "E". He could not spend those CPs and after relogging he had just 1/4 of the XP he grindet with the perma "E".

    Wow that sux.
  • Lightword
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    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lightword wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    It would seem that in at least some cases:

    If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.

    In other cases:
    Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.

    Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +

    Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.

    I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.

    Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.

    Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor :)
    Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).

    I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.

    Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.

    Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
    You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.

    Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.

    It's not an 'exploit' that enlightenment is working as intended for some people and not for you.

    Some trolls in this thread need to stop trying to terrorize people by talking about their 'friends' who have unlimited enlightenment and are 'grinding like madmen' in a 'secret location' and already have 'hundreds' of CP. I'm calling *** on all that right now. Show us proof. You don't because you don't have any.

    Besides, you don't need enlightenment to easily be over 100 CP by now, 1.6 has been up and running for 48 hours. We were into vet ranks 48 hours after release, and it was a LOT harder to level back then.

    Don't be an ***, it is true about 5%-10% of the people playing right now have yet to get any 'E'. ZOS is working on it. Just hope I can make up some CP instead of being left behind.

    I never disputed that some people arent getting enlightenment. I was commenting on the rando trolls popping into the thread claiming that they 'know people' who have unlimited enlightenment, which is bull.
    Lhorion wrote: »
    @Lightword I had a never ending "E", too. But after relogging all the progress was gone. I think there is no "E" at the moment and our UI lies to us.

    There was a familar problem with talent trees weeks ago. Your UI said: Destro Staff 48! You can skill Impulse now! But you could not spend a point because the truth was you had not level 50. I think same is here. A friend of mine grinded 2 CP with the permanent "E". He could not spend those CPs and after relogging he had just 1/4 of the XP he grindet with the perma "E".

    Dos, proof?
  • McDoogs
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    Lightword wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Lightword wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Slurg wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    McDoogs wrote: »
    Sylvyr wrote: »
    It would seem that in at least some cases:

    If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.

    In other cases:
    Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.

    Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +

    Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.

    I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.

    Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.

    Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor :)
    Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).

    I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.

    Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.

    Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
    You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.

    Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.

    It's not an 'exploit' that enlightenment is working as intended for some people and not for you.

    Some trolls in this thread need to stop trying to terrorize people by talking about their 'friends' who have unlimited enlightenment and are 'grinding like madmen' in a 'secret location' and already have 'hundreds' of CP. I'm calling *** on all that right now. Show us proof. You don't because you don't have any.

    Besides, you don't need enlightenment to easily be over 100 CP by now, 1.6 has been up and running for 48 hours. We were into vet ranks 48 hours after release, and it was a LOT harder to level back then.

    Don't be an ***, it is true about 5%-10% of the people playing right now have yet to get any 'E'. ZOS is working on it. Just hope I can make up some CP instead of being left behind.

    I never disputed that some people arent getting enlightenment. I was commenting on the rando trolls popping into the thread claiming that they 'know people' who have unlimited enlightenment, which is bull.
    Lhorion wrote: »
    @Lightword I had a never ending "E", too. But after relogging all the progress was gone. I think there is no "E" at the moment and our UI lies to us.

    There was a familar problem with talent trees weeks ago. Your UI said: Destro Staff 48! You can skill Impulse now! But you could not spend a point because the truth was you had not level 50. I think same is here. A friend of mine grinded 2 CP with the permanent "E". He could not spend those CPs and after relogging he had just 1/4 of the XP he grindet with the perma "E".

    Dos, proof?

    There is no proof, because it's probably not true.
    Edited by McDoogs on March 5, 2015 11:33PM
  • Lhorion
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    Lightword wrote: »
    Dos, proof?

    I will try to make screenshots if this will happen again
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