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Enlightenment working for ANYONE?

  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Could the issues with people having their enlightenment last only 5 or 10 minutes before expiring have something to do with the way it is earned in 5-10 minute intervals?

    For example, the way it was described here (forward to 1:31:54):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcIaOzyOUL0

    One player is continously playing 24 hours straight, they will get 5-10 minutes of enlightenment every so often and immediately burn it up.

    Another player takes a break for 12 hours and when they come back, they have all the enlightenment accrued to burn up all in one go (400K XP).

    It sounds like some people have experienced a different issue where they never receive any enlightenment at all, but others who see it only for a brief period could be simply burning it up entirely every time they receive their 10 minutes interval worth of enlightenment (24 hours = 400K XP, 10 minute interval =~2778XP), no?

    I'd imagine if your champion point progress goes up only 2778XP, it would be burned up quickly and it doesn't exactly look like you are earning toward the next point very quickly.
    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on March 6, 2015 12:39AM
  • Khaldar
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    Could the issues with people having their enlightenment last only 5 or 10 minutes before expiring have something to do with the way it is earned in 5-10 minute intervals?

    For example, the way it was described here (forward to 1:31:54):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcIaOzyOUL0

    One player is continously playing 24 hours straight, they will get 5-10 minutes of enlightenment every so often and immediately burn it up.

    Another player takes a break for 12 hours and when they combe back, they have all the enlightenment accrued to burn up all in one go (400K XP).

    It sounds like some people have experienced a different issue where they never receive any enlightenment at all, but others who see it only for a brief perioed could be simply burning it up entirely every time they receive their 10 minutes interval worth of enlightenment, no?

    I submitted a ticket about not getting enlightenment for 48 hours and only earning 1.5 CPs from normal gameplay. I was sent a message and had my enlightenment turned on... it is a bug!
  • kijima
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    Got to my VR14 grind spot last night, good XP. What I didn't have though was enlightenment.

    Weird thing is, while I was in my grind spot getting 'okay' XP, I typed reloadui as I wanted to refresh some of my new add on's, after the reload I was greeted by the enlightenment message. Yay!

    Two man grind fest continued but with much improved XP. I see no issue with gaining CP now, unless ZOS find and nerf my grind spot of course. Happy times ahead!
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...
  • WarrioroftheWind_ESO
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    Is this intended? i keep getting the enlightenment message crop up when I'm in town tabbed out or banking. so I take a wayshrine because obviously I'm not going to get any xp in Mournhold, and as soon as I arrive anywhere I'm no longer enlightened again. This keeps happening every time I'm in a town or idling.
  • Inco
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    Yea.. you just hover over the Champion XP area and a pop up shows if you are enlightened.

    As to the "SPEED" that it helps.. doesn't seem to add much if you ask me. I'm pretty disappointed in the increase and have yet to get a point even.
  • Lightword
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    Khaldar wrote: »
    I submitted a ticket about not getting enlightenment for 48 hours and only earning 1.5 CPs from normal gameplay. I was sent a message and had my enlightenment turned on... it is a bug!

    Funny I turned in a ticket right at the start of 1.6 and still have yet to see anything. Just posted another fingers crossed.
  • Khaldar
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    Lightword wrote: »
    Khaldar wrote: »
    I submitted a ticket about not getting enlightenment for 48 hours and only earning 1.5 CPs from normal gameplay. I was sent a message and had my enlightenment turned on... it is a bug!

    Funny I turned in a ticket right at the start of 1.6 and still have yet to see anything. Just posted another fingers crossed.

    I just earned 5 CP from enlightenment so I guess they gave me the entire amount that I missed since 1.6 launch...

    I submitted one yesterday. Then I submitted one again today. It took about 2 hours for a response today. Good Luck.
    Edited by Khaldar on March 6, 2015 1:18AM
  • Palidon
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    Well as usual new update and another major bug to contend with. So much for testing the Champion System fully to make sure it was working before releasing 1.6 live. This is something that cannot be sat on or ignored by ZOS and needs to be addressed and fixed immediately. A broken Champion system destroys the game.
  • Lightword
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    Palidon wrote: »
    Well as usual new update and another major bug to contend with. So much for testing the Champion System fully to make sure it was working before releasing 1.6 live. This is something that cannot be sat on or ignored by ZOS and needs to be addressed and fixed immediately. A broken Champion system destroys the game.

    Basically I'm screwed questing, since I'm wasting my 'E' bonus that I STILL DONT HAVE.
  • JaJaLuka
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    You will begin to see Enlightenment 24 hours after logging in with a Veteran Rank character, so nobody will see it for at least a few more hours.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno I did start seeing it early yesterday and it came and went several times during the day but only ever lasted for a few minutes while my friends enlightenment lasted for hours. I have heard similar reports from others, is this a bug or are we doing something wrong?
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  • GaldorP
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    1. Got Enlightenment with my main character about 36 hours after that character's first login (I think logging in once with a level 3 non-veteran character is what delayed the first Enlightenment bonus by about 12 hours).
    2. I grinded with my main character until my Enlightenment bonus was almost used up. In the end, the tooltip said: Your character is enlightened and will earn experience towards a Mage Champion point at an accelerated rate until she reaches 39,005 XP, and I played until I had about 29k of those 39k XP (so 10k left until Enlightenment should have expired).
    3. Then I logged out with my main character and logged in another VR 14 character and my progress now was 0/400,000 XP to the next level on that character. The tooltip now stated that I would stay enlightened until that character reaches about 10,000 XP of the Mage Champion point.
    4. I logged in another character (VR 1). The progress for this character was also at 0/400,000 XP. But on top of that, I had now lost the remaining Enlightenment bonus for the next 10k XP that I still had on the previous character.
    5. I logged back in with my main character. The progress was at 29,837/400,000 XP, but only for that character! The remaining Enlightenment bonus for about 10k more XP, however, was gone on all my characters now (I had lost it by relogging).

    Is the XP progress towards the next Champion point supposed to be different for each character (29,837/400,000 XP on my main character; 0/400,000 XP on my other two VR characters)?

    And is it intended that I lose the remaining Enlightenment bonus when I log in with another VR character?
  • Arkadius
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    Logged on with my character and got that enlightenment message. Ported to another zone -> enlightenment gone. Ported to Belkarth to do some banking. A few minutes later my enlightenment came back. Ported to another zone -> enlightenment gone again. Haven't been able to get it back since then.
  • Lightword
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    1. Got Enlightenment with my main character about 36 hours after that character's first login (I think logging in once with a level 3 non-veteran character is what delayed the first Enlightenment bonus by about 12 hours).
    2. I grinded with my main character until my Enlightenment bonus was almost used up. In the end, the tooltip said: Your character is enlightened and will earn experience towards a Mage Champion point at an accelerated rate until she reaches 39,005 XP, and I played until I had about 29k of those 39k XP (so 10k left until Enlightenment should have expired).
    3. Then I logged out with my main character and logged in another VR 14 character and my progress now was 0/400,000 XP to the next level on that character. The tooltip now stated that I would stay enlightened until that character reaches about 10,000 XP of the Mage Champion point.
    4. I logged in another character (VR 1). The progress for this character was also at 0/400,000 XP. But on top of that, I had now lost the remaining Enlightenment bonus for the next 10k XP that I still had on the previous character.
    5. I logged back in with my main character. The progress was at 29,837/400,000 XP, but only for that character! The remaining Enlightenment bonus for about 10k more XP, however, was gone on all my characters now (I had lost it by relogging).

    Is the XP progress towards the next Champion point supposed to be different for each character (29,837/400,000 XP on my main character; 0/400,000 XP on my other two VR characters)?

    And is it intended that I lose the remaining Enlightenment bonus when I log in with another VR character?

    Suppossibly not, but I'm not ZOS
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Huntler wrote: »
    You are making assumptions on numbers they gave for the "average" player. The average player could get to 85 and no more, but in reality the grinders who maximize are making several CP every hour without enlightenment which is why I know being in the 90s is very doable. Your math is spot on with the average player though. Zos specifically stated they want 100k xp an hour for your average player thus equating to the numbers you extracted, which means players will be much faster and much slower depending on a number of different things.

    This. Sort of like how a good player can get to VR1 with a fresh toon inside of 19-20 or so hours /played and be done with the whole main story questline for example, while your "average" player takes around 2.5-3 days or more /played (aka 60-72 hours/higher). ;)
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Lightword wrote: »
    Lhorion wrote: »
    Did I misunderstand someone or are there a few guys that have working Enlightement?

    Yep huh, this game, the absence of testing in a PTS is noticeable on the live server. Was there even 'E' in the PTS? Or was it thrown in last minute to the live patch? I am really LOSING CONFIDENCE in the team for not posting more consistently on a hot topic forum. Eve Online would have had Dev's posting every page at a minimum.

    Most have working a healthy CP System that work perfectly, while about 10% suffer from extreme issues, and the 1% have never ending 'E' as long as they stay logged in and don't change zones.

    Yeah, Enlightenment was on the PTS, but since character copies weren't available for a lot of the time for one of the two megaservers (US/EU), the vast majority of people were playing on template toons which already had 3600cp and therefore see nothing of if it was working properly or not.

    I'm sadly in the 10% on this one...
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  • Lightword
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    Still nothing, ZOS WTF Basically its pointless for me to quest at all since I can spend the same time questing and get x4 the xp for turn ins...
  • Durham
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    What about those of us that have yet to receive any E... Mine has popped on for 30 secs I zone to grind a little then its gone... I have yet to receive anything. My friends are now 6 to 7 CP's ahead of me doing the same thing....This is game breaking for many of us....
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  • Lightword
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    Yep, totally pissed now. I have to go on a business trip over the weekend when I could have been playing. Thus I am totally missing out on about 12 CP I could have had, Thanks alot ZOS!
  • Rhakon
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    Perma "E" for all!

    it would be a fair speed to gain CP.

    The CS does not contribute to Individuality or role specific diversity at all.
    Its a lame Grind, a timesink to sell XP-Boosters..

    There is no FUN in this buggy conception and it destroys PvP!

    I'll have no problem to get points,
    but i hate unfair, usless, Time-devouring, Community-splitting Systems like this!

    Turn off CS in Cyrodiil!!


    greetz
  • Lightword
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    Rhakon wrote: »
    Perma "E" for all!

    it would be a fair speed to gain CP.

    The CS does not contribute to Individuality or role specific diversity at all.
    Its a lame Grind, a timesink to sell XP-Boosters..

    There is no FUN in this buggy conception and it destroys PvP!

    I'll have no problem to get points,
    but i hate unfair, usless, Time-devouring, Community-splitting Systems like this!

    Turn off CS in Cyrodiil!!


    greetz

    Yea, oh wait forgot they don't care. Oh well, its free right never have to put a dime back in it... ZOS You are about to preform economic seppuku.
  • cchin256b16_ESO
    I've been enlightened since 1 hour after patch release...
  • Lightword
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    Alot of people haven't got Jack, got to love the support there!
  • Ommamar
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    I was enlightened when I logged my VR1 in this evening. I went from 36% into the first point to 30% into the second point in the 3 hours I played. I will log back in to see if I am still enlightened then hopefully get another point. The thing I did different was initially logged on to my VR where before I had been leveling ledgermain on an alt before playing my VR characters. No idea why that would make a difference but it seems to have.
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    OK. Up to 60 hours since Update 6 dropped. I have not played nonstop all that time (not even close - maybe 10 or 12 hours in total) but I have played every day and got Enlightened for about 2 minutes on Wednesday afternoon and that is it. While all my friends in-game have been Enlightened multiple times and gained hundreds of thousands of XP while Enlightened. This is getting really depressing. They will have 100 CP by the time I hit 71 and they are not playing that much more than me. :'(
  • sparafucilsarwb17_ESO
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    I got enlightenment message last night while playing...but it did not work. There was no boost to XP at all. Also there is no way to see you are enlightened except for the message that pops up for 2 seconds? No bar or icon or anything while it is on??
  • AngryNord
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    I got a message that I was enlightened when I logged on this morning, at least
  • nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO
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    Question to those who still get their CP reset:

    Have you logged into all characters on your account yet?

    On the PTS there were a bug so if you had characters on your list that hadn't been logged into then you saw Enlightened bug out.
  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    My enlightment buff is buggy as hell. Keeps disappearing when changing zones, also when the game crashed yesterday the buff was gone and took the ~100k champion xp I earned with the buff active as well. I also handed in some pvp quests that resulted in some kind of rollback, not granting me xp from those quests and substracting another 30k. But at least this bug made one CP I earned previously reapear, so I could invest it.

    In the same time others have earned close to 10 points :/ lame bugs, I hope there is some way to give me at least the buff that I didn't use back.
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  • Fecius
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno !

    Hi, I'm almost sure, that this problem was somehow to be pointed in this thread, but still I want to add some from myself.

    Today I know 3 types of people:

    1. Ones who got enlightened for 4 and more CP (one of them even got 9 CP for 3-4 h).
    2. Ones who got enlightened for 1 CP only (seems like it work in proper way for them).
    3. Ones who got enlightened multiple times in one game session but it ends in 5 min afk or in 2k exp. (I'm in this part myself, i was offline for about 20 h after my logout).
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