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Enlightenment working for ANYONE?
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Lightword✭✭Alphashado wrote: »Enlightenment only builds up during times that you are not playing a 50+ character. So if you weren't logged out or playing on a sub 50 character for very long, it's possible that you only built a very small % of enlightenment and used it up right away by discovering a wayshrine, killing a couple mobs, or doing something else that earned you XP.
If you have been playing alot since 1.6 went live, then you probably won't see much enlightenment, and when you do see it, it will likely get used up quickly. The times that you should see a large pool of enlightenment would be after you have been logged out for several hours like sleeping, going to work, etc.
It's designed to help people that can't play all day keep up with those that can. It's very similar to "rest XP" that you get in WoW and other games.
I'm not suggesting that it isn't bugged. I don't know if it is or isn't yet. I just want to make sure people understand how it works.
"Everyone receives the same amount of Enlightenment for a 24-hour period. Think of it as a clock; when it strikes 12:00PM, everyone has Enlightenment added." Right from the help tool. Thus no matter if your logged in, on vacation, or sitting on the pot you gain it all the same.1 -
Kragorn✭✭✭✭✭Can someone please tell me where I see the 'E' I've accumulated? I see nothing in the character sheet, XP/CP bars, etc. that mentions it?
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Sorry, there's one HUGE difference which makes it very different .. it does nothing to help people LEVELING who can't play 24/7.Alphashado wrote: »It's designed to help people that can't play all day keep up with those that can. It's very similar to "rest XP" that you get in WoW and other games.
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During the very brief period I had it (between receiving message and using wayshrine) the CP bar below the XP bar was highlighted in the color of the tree I was working on the point for.Can someone please tell me where I see the 'E' I've accumulated? I see nothing in the character sheet, XP/CP bars, etc. that mentions it?
Cheers.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
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Sylvyr✭✭✭✭✭It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.Badge: Wall-of-Text GRANDMASTER
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xherics✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just letting you all know that we're actively looking into this.
I have got Enlightenment in Deshaan, was about to do the dail veteran dungeon, so I got the quest, teleported to Banished Cells and the Enlightenment is now gone.Guild: HODOR - EU - Ebonheart Pact
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✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just letting you all know that we're actively looking into this.
I have got Enlightenment in Deshaan, was about to do the dail veteran dungeon, so I got the quest, teleported to Banished Cells and the Enlightenment is now gone.
From what I've been able to see, the times in which you "get enlightenment" and then lose it when you zone, you never had it to begin with and it wasn't part of the system. From what we tested yesterday with guildies even if you were in a zone where you could exp, you weren't gaining it if it was this "fake englightenment." It seems when you truly get the correct enlightenment zoning or whatever won't drop it. But after you've used up your enlightenment you can get this bug where sometimes the notice comes up when you don't actually have any and drops when you zone, or do some other certain tasks (like joining/leaving a group). In essence its "fake" enlightenment, looks like a display bug more than anything. Now for people claiming they never got enlightenment to begin with I can't comment on that other than make sure you didn't already use yours up
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LunaRae✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just letting you all know that we're actively looking into this.
I have got Enlightenment in Deshaan, was about to do the dail veteran dungeon, so I got the quest, teleported to Banished Cells and the Enlightenment is now gone.
From what I've been able to see, the times in which you "get enlightenment" and then lose it when you zone, you never had it to begin with and it wasn't part of the system. From what we tested yesterday with guildies even if you were in a zone where you could exp, you weren't gaining it if it was this "fake englightenment." It seems when you truly get the correct enlightenment zoning or whatever won't drop it. But after you've used up your enlightenment you can get this bug where sometimes the notice comes up when you don't actually have any and drops when you zone, or do some other certain tasks (like joining/leaving a group). In essence its "fake" enlightenment, looks like a display bug more than anything. Now for people claiming they never got enlightenment to begin with I can't comment on that other than make sure you didn't already use yours up could be another bug as well though that some players aren't getting it.
Totally agree with this post. So many guildies, myself included, get fake enlightenment where the game says your are enlightened, you actually see the XP fill up quickly towards next CP but when you zone, log off/back on it reverts back to what you would have accumulated as regular XP. And I've yet to get true enlightenment, it will be 48 hours for me at 4:50pm PST today. I logged in Tuesday 4:50pm PST, logged off at 12am PST and back on at 4:50pm PST the next day, no enlightenment
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McDoogs✭✭✭✭It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.0 -
Lightword✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just letting you all know that we're actively looking into this.
I have got Enlightenment in Deshaan, was about to do the dail veteran dungeon, so I got the quest, teleported to Banished Cells and the Enlightenment is now gone.
From what I've been able to see, the times in which you "get enlightenment" and then lose it when you zone, you never had it to begin with and it wasn't part of the system. From what we tested yesterday with guildies even if you were in a zone where you could exp, you weren't gaining it if it was this "fake englightenment." It seems when you truly get the correct enlightenment zoning or whatever won't drop it. But after you've used up your enlightenment you can get this bug where sometimes the notice comes up when you don't actually have any and drops when you zone, or do some other certain tasks (like joining/leaving a group). In essence its "fake" enlightenment, looks like a display bug more than anything. Now for people claiming they never got enlightenment to begin with I can't comment on that other than make sure you didn't already use yours up could be another bug as well though that some players aren't getting it.
Here is the Check to your statement! I have yet to have enlightenment and/or gain xp with it once. Thus, when I zone change to go questing with it: I lose it. So, I did actually have 'E' (I love this shortened version).0 -
Sylvyr✭✭✭✭✭It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.Badge: Wall-of-Text GRANDMASTER
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AlcastClass RepresentativeSo as I see it: some ppl already 90CP because they aren enlightend since patch release nonstop.
I havent even earned a CP because i did not get any enlightenment yet..and yes the other guys play more than me.
So there i sdef smth fishy.
But its okay, I mean it will not matter when i get my 75 CP points and others already got 200. L O L
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Ah, cheers, I see a green icon before the words CHAMPION POINT but the CP bar itself is all black, I thought by now I'd have accumulated some 'E', maybe I'm suffering the bug then too.
During the very brief period I had it (between receiving message and using wayshrine) the CP bar below the XP bar was highlighted in the color of the tree I was working on the point for.Can someone please tell me where I see the 'E' I've accumulated? I see nothing in the character sheet, XP/CP bars, etc. that mentions it?
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McDoogs✭✭✭✭It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
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In my case, unless it is possible to use all of my daily enlightenment on a dozen or so trash mobs totalling less than 10,000 XP to test whether or not I had it (And this is before the message popped up), it is definitely not a matter of having already used my daily allowance up. I have not.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just letting you all know that we're actively looking into this.
I have got Enlightenment in Deshaan, was about to do the dail veteran dungeon, so I got the quest, teleported to Banished Cells and the Enlightenment is now gone.
From what I've been able to see, the times in which you "get enlightenment" and then lose it when you zone, you never had it to begin with and it wasn't part of the system. From what we tested yesterday with guildies even if you were in a zone where you could exp, you weren't gaining it if it was this "fake englightenment." It seems when you truly get the correct enlightenment zoning or whatever won't drop it. But after you've used up your enlightenment you can get this bug where sometimes the notice comes up when you don't actually have any and drops when you zone, or do some other certain tasks (like joining/leaving a group). In essence its "fake" enlightenment, looks like a display bug more than anything. Now for people claiming they never got enlightenment to begin with I can't comment on that other than make sure you didn't already use yours up could be another bug as well though that some players aren't getting it.
Here is the Check to your statement! I have yet to have enlightenment and/or gain xp with it once. Thus, when I zone change to go questing with it: I lose it. So, I did actually have 'E' (I love this shortened version).
If I never really had the enlightenment to begin with and it was a display bug that said I did, my question becomes why I have to wait more than 32 hours for mine (not at home now so I can't check to see if I have it after 36 hours) after first veteran log in when others got theirs in 24 or less.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
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✭✭✭Alphashado wrote: »Synapsis123 wrote: »Alphashado wrote: »
I believe the cap is 3 days worth of enlightenment.
I'm aware of the cap, I assumed it was measured in CPs (actually XP) not days. For example the cap is 4 CPs worth of XP. In other words if you're at the cap (i.e. 4 CPs worth of XP) then you would exhaust your enlightenment after gaining 4 CPs, then continue at the regular pace.
I wonder is it possible that because I logged into all my alts to improve my riding skills did I lose my enlightenment, whereas my healer didn't log into their alt and was receiving the correct enlightenment XP?
I logged into non veteran mules, and have accumulated no enlightenment at all since, even though I made it a point to not go on a non vet character for a day and a half now
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✭Last night at the stroke of midnight I recieved enlightement. No, it wasn't a bolt out of the blue. If it's only supposed to last one champ point, there's a happy problem on my end since it lasted through 2 CP and I still had enlightenment when I logged off. Not complaining, but it seems very inconsistent across different characters based on the earlier posts in this thread.0 -
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Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.Edited by Slurg on March 5, 2015 5:44PMHappy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerStill actively investigating on our end - no news yet. We'll keep you all up to date.4 -
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Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.Edited by McDoogs on March 5, 2015 6:05PM0 -
WarrioroftheWind_ESO✭✭✭✭I had it happen twice yesterday where I began working on my main. The meter showed I'd accumulated 60kish xp under enlightened, but when enlightened vanished I dropped down to 28k. Later when I'd done a great deal of pvping and left with over 220k, when enlightenment faded it dropped me down to 160k. I've also noticed that some quests didn't seem to award the same amount of XP. While doing crafting writs I kept checking the bar. I'd turned in a quest and it did not change. The other two I turned in seemed to give a very tiny amount of xp. I'm not sure if that's correct or no the number I was looking at was 180k xp, and after turning in 3 crafting writs it only went up to 182k.0
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✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »If that is true then they run into the old problem with this game: The complete lack of repeatable soloable content for max level characters.
There really isn't ANY content for V14 to solo outside pvp. And now with the champion system that oversight and lack of vision will hurt the game tremendously.
I agree, and this worries me. I'm not interested in spending the next few years running alts, in order to advance my main.Snit AD Sorc
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Siluen✭✭✭✭My enlightenment has been appearing on and off. I have had times where I got the message I was enlightened, wayshrined somewhere, and was no longer enlightened. At one point I gained enlightenment whilst collecting xp. I gained a warrior champion point, but when I wished to spend it, I could not. So I relogged thinking it may have been a ui-bug, which made me lose my point altogether and bumped me way back into the warrior-point xp bar.
It really makes actively collecting champion points a bit demotivating. I now constantly have the feeling: do I get to keep this xp I am collecting right now?3 -
Helluin✭✭✭I've never had enlightment so far (VR14 character).
A guildie got it x2 and has already 78CP (VR14 character).
Like in the early VR and early Cyrodiil this risks to create quite an huge gap.
I hope this time it will be addressed.
For the rest I agree with @Snit about alts."... and the blue fire of Helluin flickered in the mists above the borders of the world, in that hour the Children of the Earth awoke, the Firstborn of Ilúvatar."1 -
Lightword✭✭
In my case, unless it is possible to use all of my daily enlightenment on a dozen or so trash mobs totalling less than 10,000 XP to test whether or not I had it (And this is before the message popped up), it is definitely not a matter of having already used my daily allowance up. I have not.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just letting you all know that we're actively looking into this.
I have got Enlightenment in Deshaan, was about to do the dail veteran dungeon, so I got the quest, teleported to Banished Cells and the Enlightenment is now gone.
From what I've been able to see, the times in which you "get enlightenment" and then lose it when you zone, you never had it to begin with and it wasn't part of the system. From what we tested yesterday with guildies even if you were in a zone where you could exp, you weren't gaining it if it was this "fake englightenment." It seems when you truly get the correct enlightenment zoning or whatever won't drop it. But after you've used up your enlightenment you can get this bug where sometimes the notice comes up when you don't actually have any and drops when you zone, or do some other certain tasks (like joining/leaving a group). In essence its "fake" enlightenment, looks like a display bug more than anything. Now for people claiming they never got enlightenment to begin with I can't comment on that other than make sure you didn't already use yours up could be another bug as well though that some players aren't getting it.
Here is the Check to your statement! I have yet to have enlightenment and/or gain xp with it once. Thus, when I zone change to go questing with it: I lose it. So, I did actually have 'E' (I love this shortened version).
If I never really had the enlightenment to begin with and it was a display bug that said I did, my question becomes why I have to wait more than 32 hours for mine (not at home now so I can't check to see if I have it after 36 hours) after first veteran log in when others got theirs in 24 or less.
No Idea, but just not getting it is killing me to. When I do get it, poof its gone so i guess the only option left is just rerolling and hope the next character ain't bugged out the wazzoo.0 -
Lied✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Still actively investigating on our end - no news yet. We'll keep you all up to date.
Along with the fix can we get some sort of reimbursement, even if it's only to fill our enlightenment up as much as it should be? It'd be sort of annoying if you ironed this out only to restart our enlightenment clock at 0 when we're missing 2 days worth by this afternoon/evening.5 -
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✭So i eventually gained enlightenment, but what is the duration as it seems its been on for a while now? Already gained 4 cp's since it began and on handing in a random quest, i got 333k xp
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✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno I did an hour of AoE grinding with a partner last night.
During this time I received ~1.5 million experience and was fully enlightened for the first 1.4 Million. My partner didn't receive any and got only 325K or so.
I got 4 champion points (74 now) and she only got 1 (71).
How is the disparity between two players even possible this early into the system?Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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Update:
Got the enlightend buff back while standing around in stormhaven...than i have ported to upper craiglorn und lost it again (while porting)
Update2:
Got the enlightened buff back again while standing around in rawl'kha, logt on my alt (vr5 nb) and lost it again (while logging)0
