Enlightenment working for ANYONE?
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AlcastClass RepresentativeOkay I got enlightenment after switching zone it did go away. Here a video as words seem to be not clear enough LoL.
http://youtu.be/x8BGL9akae8
Some people already have close to 85 CP with nonston Enl. on, just saying.
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✭Okay I got enlightenment after switching zone it did go away. Here a video as words seem to be not clear enough LoL.
Some people already have close to 85 CP with nonston Enl. on, just saying.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
There are players near 90 CS already, I know two however they got there grinding not with nonstop Enl, unless you show me a case I'm calling BS/exaggeration on you. The reason I know you are full of it is because if someone had nonstop Enl, by now they'd be at least around 150+ to 200 CS points.
Look I know some people are upset because there looks to be a bug, but making baseless claims and exaggerations only makes identifying the problem harder for ZOS and ultimately makes the fix take longer. It has no place here. If you're going to claim something back it up with fact, else you get this misinformation going around and with people not understanding the system they claim things are broken that arent (such as many examples in this thread).Edited by Huntler on March 5, 2015 6:46PM2 -
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Tested this the last two days. Logged into 8 characters to prime the system right after I finished the update. Only my main is VR. Been off and on all my chacters since then. Got enlightenment last night. Immediately logged off, loaded a non vet, then logged back into my main. I still had enlightenment.
Are you guys logging into non-VR alts at all? You might be resetting a timer or something.
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AlcastClass RepresentativeOkay I got enlightenment after switching zone it did go away. Here a video as words seem to be not clear enough LoL.
Some people already have close to 85 CP with nonston Enl. on, just saying.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
There are players near 90 CS already, I know two however they got there grinding not with nonstop Enl, unless you show me a case I'm calling BS/exaggeration on you. The reason I know you are full of it is because if someone had nonstop Enl, by now they'd be at least around 150+ to 200 CS points.
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
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Lightword✭✭Well this is hilarious, I get 'E' in a lvl 20 city but when I change zones to use it. ITS GONE.
Oh well Its basically pointless playing the game until this is fixed.
Finally got the refresh on the page, Yep totally done with this game till its fixed and CP is reset for everyone. This is by far the WORST patch launch I have ever been apart of (is my 1st major one with ESO). Mostly dealt with WOW and EVE, which they would have shutdown the servers entirely and refunded CP to people for time lost. Hint: do it now and fix it faster.Edited by Lightword on March 5, 2015 7:12PM4 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment. Its probably far more likely that players either don't understand the system yet/misinterpreting it or aren't paying attention to when they are or are not enlightened. I do think given my experiences and others in this thread that some players might not be getting their enlightenment as they should as well as a display bug showing you "fake" enlightenment (which may also contribute to why players think they are getting more than expected).
Its not like some clown with unlimited enlightenment could really hide it, ZOS likely has estimates on what reasonable grinding should result in (even exaggerated) someone who has unlimited ultimate if you think about it when grinding should have extra hundred points by now if not more, that would stick out like a sore thumb.Edited by Huntler on March 5, 2015 7:15PM4 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment. Its probably far more likely that players either don't understand the system yet/misinterpreting it or aren't paying attention to when they are or are not enlightened. I do think given my experiences and others in this thread that some players might not be getting their enlightenment as they should as well as a display bug showing you "fake" enlightenment (which may also contribute to why players think they are getting more than expected).
Its not like some clown with unlimited enlightenment could really hide it, ZOS likely has estimates on what reasonable grinding should result in (even exaggerated) someone who has unlimited ultimate if you think about it when grinding should have extra hundred points by now if not more, that would stick out like a sore thumb.
Sadly, it is happening. A member of one of the guilds I am in has just breached 92 CP, Thats right we will never catch up and the game is ATM never going to be balanced. Im at 71.5 CP BTW never got enlightenment.3 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment. Its probably far more likely that players either don't understand the system yet/misinterpreting it or aren't paying attention to when they are or are not enlightened. I do think given my experiences and others in this thread that some players might not be getting their enlightenment as they should as well as a display bug showing you "fake" enlightenment (which may also contribute to why players think they are getting more than expected).
Its not like some clown with unlimited enlightenment could really hide it, ZOS likely has estimates on what reasonable grinding should result in (even exaggerated) someone who has unlimited ultimate if you think about it when grinding should have extra hundred points by now if not more, that would stick out like a sore thumb.
Sadly, it is happening. A member of one of the guilds I am in has just breached 92 CP, Thats right we will never catch up and the game is ATM never going to be balanced. Im at 71.5 CP BTW never got enlightenment.
Thats through legitimate grind, there are 2 in my guild in the 90s at the moment through just grinding a couple champion counts an hour. Do the math. If they had unlimited enlightenment they would be in high 100's-200's at least by now. You're overreacting to something that doesn't exist.
That isn't proof, I've provided adequate evidence already. Think about it logically. With enlightenment you'd be gaining through reasonable grind somewhere close to 5-10 CS an hour. 90s isn't through broken enlightenment its through grind, if someone has a SS of someone in the 100s+ post that and then we might have reason to be concerned.Edited by Huntler on March 5, 2015 7:22PM2 -
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✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno I did an hour of AoE grinding with a partner last night.
During this time I received ~1.5 million experience and was fully enlightened for the first 1.4 Million. My partner didn't receive any and got only 325K or so.
I got 4 champion points (74 now) and she only got 1 (71).
How is the disparity between two players even possible this early into the system?
I don't quite follow. If you were fully enlightened while you earned 1.5 million XP, you would have received 15 Champion Points. While enlightened, they cost 100k XP. When not enlightened, each CP costs 400k XP.
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Update:
Got the enlightend buff back while standing around in stormhaven...than i have ported to upper craiglorn und lost it again (while porting)
Update2:
Got the enlightened buff back again while standing around in rawl'kha, logt on my alt (vr5 nb) and lost it again (while logging)
Update3:
Yeaaaaaah, i got the enlightened buff back again. Managed to grind a CP and NOW I DIDNT GET A CP POINT TO SPEND?!
Got the message on the screen that i gained one and there is none to spend, if i open the CP window...
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Lied✭✭✭I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment.
I like your optimism, but it certainly doesn't seem like a far fetched concept considering this thread is full of people that are either not getting the buff, losing it when they shouldn't, having CP/exp rollbacks, etc. It almost seems like more of a stretch to assume that any single part of the system is universally working as intended.7 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment. Its probably far more likely that players either don't understand the system yet/misinterpreting it or aren't paying attention to when they are or are not enlightened. I do think given my experiences and others in this thread that some players might not be getting their enlightenment as they should as well as a display bug showing you "fake" enlightenment (which may also contribute to why players think they are getting more than expected).
Its not like some clown with unlimited enlightenment could really hide it, ZOS likely has estimates on what reasonable grinding should result in (even exaggerated) someone who has unlimited ultimate if you think about it when grinding should have extra hundred points by now if not more, that would stick out like a sore thumb.
Sadly, it is happening. A member of one of the guilds I am in has just breached 92 CP, Thats right we will never catch up and the game is ATM never going to be balanced. Im at 71.5 CP BTW never got enlightenment.
Thats through legitimate grind, there are 2 in my guild in the 90s at the moment through just grinding a couple champion counts an hour. Do the math. If they had unlimited enlightenment they would be in high 100's-200's at least by now. You're overreacting to something that doesn't exist.
That isn't proof, I've provided adequate evidence already. Think about it logically. With enlightenment you'd be gaining through reasonable grind somewhere close to 5-10 CS an hour. 90s isn't through broken enlightenment its through grind, if someone has a SS of someone in the 100s+ post that and then we might have reason to be concerned.
Not exactly, you really need to take a look at what we know about CP gains it's something like:
1. ZOS stated that it should take ~ four (4) hrs to gain one (1) CP normally.
2. Enlightened that it should take ~ one (1) hr to gain one (1) CP.
3. After using up your enlightenment (capped at ~4CPs worth of XP) you go back to the regular rate of gain.
4. The CS has been available for ~fourty eight (48) hrs.
Therefore, if your played for 24 hours straight in a day at the regular rate of CP gain you could make:
24hrs*(.25 CPs/hr) = 6 CPs/day
But your first 4 CPs are gained during enlightenment at 1 CP/hour, therefore your first 4 hours of playing would net you 4 CPs so in the first 48 hours available to play you'd have:
1st 4 hours = 4 CPs
next 20 hours = 5 CPs
next day = 6 CPs
Total = 15 CPs
Starting with 70 CPs means no player should have more than ~ 85 CPs and if they do it follows that enlightenment is lasting longer than it should. Weather that enlightenment is indefinite or not is a moot point. Either way it's lasting longer than it should. With that said no one plays for 24 hours straight for 2 days straight, they have to sleep and eat or whatever so theoretically this should be upper limit of one could of achieved in the last 2 days. I did the math see
Edited by Cuyler on March 5, 2015 7:37PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Exstazik✭✭✭✭I hope people who received infinite Enlightenment will be rollbacked in exp.
Have 77 CP.Enlightenment was received 1 time for 200 exp only....and dissapear after reaching 1 CP
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Lightword✭✭
You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment. Its probably far more likely that players either don't understand the system yet/misinterpreting it or aren't paying attention to when they are or are not enlightened. I do think given my experiences and others in this thread that some players might not be getting their enlightenment as they should as well as a display bug showing you "fake" enlightenment (which may also contribute to why players think they are getting more than expected).
Its not like some clown with unlimited enlightenment could really hide it, ZOS likely has estimates on what reasonable grinding should result in (even exaggerated) someone who has unlimited ultimate if you think about it when grinding should have extra hundred points by now if not more, that would stick out like a sore thumb.
Sadly, it is happening. A member of one of the guilds I am in has just breached 92 CP, Thats right we will never catch up and the game is ATM never going to be balanced. Im at 71.5 CP BTW never got enlightenment.
Thats through legitimate grind, there are 2 in my guild in the 90s at the moment through just grinding a couple champion counts an hour. Do the math. If they had unlimited enlightenment they would be in high 100's-200's at least by now. You're overreacting to something that doesn't exist.
That isn't proof, I've provided adequate evidence already. Think about it logically. With enlightenment you'd be gaining through reasonable grind somewhere close to 5-10 CS an hour. 90s isn't through broken enlightenment its through grind, if someone has a SS of someone in the 100s+ post that and then we might have reason to be concerned.
Nope not over reacting, its perma 'E' the drug that keeps on kicking. They have verified it and submitted bug tickets about it. Thus, grinding has been nurfed to the ground. I know, I tried it. Used to solo spellscar like cake on a NB Vamp. If players can pull that far away from the pack, getting CP then why do we even have the system? It creates a massive rift in this game to the point where, "If you don't have x amount of CP GTFO." Killing the ESO ideals of everyone playing what they want in this game. Not to mention the PVP being terribly unbalanced to the point where a new player can't even kill someone and dies repeatedly, regardless of skill. Hell just make it where you get one CP per day, but no. I enjoy the fact that I can progress my character via the CP System. Sadly, at the moment it is not working for me and many others, while some are enjoying an endless stream of 'E'. Grinding sucks, period; no if's, and's, or but's. I used to get 400+ exp from a mob at VR14 in spellscar, I now get 137xp. basically they have been gaining experience at an 'E' state since they are experiencing a "normal" 1.5.8 grind. Thus, they have perma 'E' even though it might not say it. The little blue pill known as 'E' is fritzing out in this game and need to be put down.2 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment. Its probably far more likely that players either don't understand the system yet/misinterpreting it or aren't paying attention to when they are or are not enlightened. I do think given my experiences and others in this thread that some players might not be getting their enlightenment as they should as well as a display bug showing you "fake" enlightenment (which may also contribute to why players think they are getting more than expected).
Its not like some clown with unlimited enlightenment could really hide it, ZOS likely has estimates on what reasonable grinding should result in (even exaggerated) someone who has unlimited ultimate if you think about it when grinding should have extra hundred points by now if not more, that would stick out like a sore thumb.
Sadly, it is happening. A member of one of the guilds I am in has just breached 92 CP, Thats right we will never catch up and the game is ATM never going to be balanced. Im at 71.5 CP BTW never got enlightenment.
Thats through legitimate grind, there are 2 in my guild in the 90s at the moment through just grinding a couple champion counts an hour. Do the math. If they had unlimited enlightenment they would be in high 100's-200's at least by now. You're overreacting to something that doesn't exist.
That isn't proof, I've provided adequate evidence already. Think about it logically. With enlightenment you'd be gaining through reasonable grind somewhere close to 5-10 CS an hour. 90s isn't through broken enlightenment its through grind, if someone has a SS of someone in the 100s+ post that and then we might have reason to be concerned.
Not exactly, you really need to take a look at what we know about CP gains it's something like:
1. ZOS stated that it should take ~ four (4) hrs to gain one (1) CP normally.
2. Enlightened that it should take ~ one (1) hr to gain one (1) CP.
3. After using up your enlightenment (capped at ~4CPs worth of XP) you go back to the regular rate of gain.
4. The CS has been available for ~fourty eight (48) hrs.
Therefore, if your played for 24 hours straight in a day at the regular rate of CP gain you could make:
24hrs*(.25 CPs/hr) = 6 CPs/day
But your first 4 CPs are gained during enlightenment at 1 CP/hour, therefore your first 4 hours of playing would net you 4 CPs so in the first 48 hours available to play you'd have:
1st 4 hours = 4 CPs
next 20 hours = 5 CPs
next day = 6 CPs
Total = 15 CPs
Starting with 70 CPs means no player should have more than ~ 85 CPs and if they do it follows that enlightenment is lasting longer than it should. Weather that enlightenment is indefinite or not is a moot point. Either way it's lasting longer than it should. With that said no one plays for 24 hours straight for 2 days straight, they have to sleep and eat or whatever so theoretically this should be upper limit of one could of achieved in the last 2 days. I did the math see
You are making assumptions on numbers they gave for the "average" player. The average player could get to 85 and no more, but in reality the grinders who maximize are making several CP every hour without enlightenment which is why I know being in the 90s is very doable. Your math is spot on with the average player though. Zos specifically stated they want 100k xp an hour for your average player thus equating to the numbers you extracted, which means players will be much faster and much slower depending on a number of different things.3 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment. Its probably far more likely that players either don't understand the system yet/misinterpreting it or aren't paying attention to when they are or are not enlightened. I do think given my experiences and others in this thread that some players might not be getting their enlightenment as they should as well as a display bug showing you "fake" enlightenment (which may also contribute to why players think they are getting more than expected).
Its not like some clown with unlimited enlightenment could really hide it, ZOS likely has estimates on what reasonable grinding should result in (even exaggerated) someone who has unlimited ultimate if you think about it when grinding should have extra hundred points by now if not more, that would stick out like a sore thumb.
Sadly, it is happening. A member of one of the guilds I am in has just breached 92 CP, Thats right we will never catch up and the game is ATM never going to be balanced. Im at 71.5 CP BTW never got enlightenment.
Thats through legitimate grind, there are 2 in my guild in the 90s at the moment through just grinding a couple champion counts an hour. Do the math. If they had unlimited enlightenment they would be in high 100's-200's at least by now. You're overreacting to something that doesn't exist.
That isn't proof, I've provided adequate evidence already. Think about it logically. With enlightenment you'd be gaining through reasonable grind somewhere close to 5-10 CS an hour. 90s isn't through broken enlightenment its through grind, if someone has a SS of someone in the 100s+ post that and then we might have reason to be concerned.
Nope not over reacting, its perma 'E' the drug that keeps on kicking. They have verified it and submitted bug tickets about it. Thus, grinding has been nurfed to the ground. I know, I tried it. Used to solo spellscar like cake on a NB Vamp. If players can pull that far away from the pack, getting CP then why do we even have the system? It creates a massive rift in this game to the point where, "If you don't have x amount of CP GTFO." Killing the ESO ideals of everyone playing what they want in this game. Not to mention the PVP being terribly unbalanced to the point where a new player can't even kill someone and dies repeatedly, regardless of skill. Hell just make it where you get one CP per day, but no. I enjoy the fact that I can progress my character via the CP System. Sadly, at the moment it is not working for me and many others, while some are enjoying an endless stream of 'E'. Grinding sucks, period; no if's, and's, or but's. I used to get 400+ exp from a mob at VR14 in spellscar, I now get 137xp. basically they have been gaining experience at an 'E' state since they are experiencing a "normal" 1.5.8 grind. Thus, they have perma 'E' even though it might not say it. The little blue pill known as 'E' is fritzing out in this game and need to be put down.
They nerfed that grind spot, it is well known/documented. I still see no real proof here. Screw my optimism as another called it, but I prefer to call it if you're going to claim something then back it up. I am afraid you're going to have ZOS thinking there is one bug when there is another and wasting time. The only proof I've seen is players not getting their deserved enlightenment. THAT needs to be fixed immediately because that is unfair to those players. As I said before it should be a cakewalk for ZOS to identify if there are players gaming unlimited Enlightenment somehow. 90s of CP is completely within the realm of possibility.0 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment. Its probably far more likely that players either don't understand the system yet/misinterpreting it or aren't paying attention to when they are or are not enlightened. I do think given my experiences and others in this thread that some players might not be getting their enlightenment as they should as well as a display bug showing you "fake" enlightenment (which may also contribute to why players think they are getting more than expected).
Its not like some clown with unlimited enlightenment could really hide it, ZOS likely has estimates on what reasonable grinding should result in (even exaggerated) someone who has unlimited ultimate if you think about it when grinding should have extra hundred points by now if not more, that would stick out like a sore thumb.
Sadly, it is happening. A member of one of the guilds I am in has just breached 92 CP, Thats right we will never catch up and the game is ATM never going to be balanced. Im at 71.5 CP BTW never got enlightenment.
Thats through legitimate grind, there are 2 in my guild in the 90s at the moment through just grinding a couple champion counts an hour. Do the math. If they had unlimited enlightenment they would be in high 100's-200's at least by now. You're overreacting to something that doesn't exist.
That isn't proof, I've provided adequate evidence already. Think about it logically. With enlightenment you'd be gaining through reasonable grind somewhere close to 5-10 CS an hour. 90s isn't through broken enlightenment its through grind, if someone has a SS of someone in the 100s+ post that and then we might have reason to be concerned.
Not exactly, you really need to take a look at what we know about CP gains it's something like:
1. ZOS stated that it should take ~ four (4) hrs to gain one (1) CP normally.
2. Enlightened that it should take ~ one (1) hr to gain one (1) CP.
3. After using up your enlightenment (capped at ~4CPs worth of XP) you go back to the regular rate of gain.
4. The CS has been available for ~fourty eight (48) hrs.
Therefore, if your played for 24 hours straight in a day at the regular rate of CP gain you could make:
24hrs*(.25 CPs/hr) = 6 CPs/day
But your first 4 CPs are gained during enlightenment at 1 CP/hour, therefore your first 4 hours of playing would net you 4 CPs so in the first 48 hours available to play you'd have:
1st 4 hours = 4 CPs
next 20 hours = 5 CPs
next day = 6 CPs
Total = 15 CPs
Starting with 70 CPs means no player should have more than ~ 85 CPs and if they do it follows that enlightenment is lasting longer than it should. Weather that enlightenment is indefinite or not is a moot point. Either way it's lasting longer than it should. With that said no one plays for 24 hours straight for 2 days straight, they have to sleep and eat or whatever so theoretically this should be upper limit of one could of achieved in the last 2 days. I did the math see
You are making assumptions on numbers they gave for the "average" player. The average player could get to 85 and no more, but in reality the grinders who maximize are making several CP every hour without enlightenment which is why I know being in the 90s is very doable. Your math is spot on with the average player though. Zos specifically stated they want 100k xp an hour for your average player thus equating to the numbers you extracted, which means players will be much faster and much slower depending on a number of different things.
True.... but they nerfed spellscar so that it would be average XP even if grinding (100k XP/hr)....So if they are making XP at an above average rate grinding spellscar then they are 'E', and if they have gained more than 4 CPs doing so, they are perpetually 'E'. I could calculate it exactly with average time to burn down a pull in spellscar and the current xp per mob in spellscar. I haven't been up there to check it yet.
Edit: I'd bet that even the most efficient of grinders isn't able to gain XP at a rate 2x the average with the recent XP nerf which is what you'd have to do to get to 90-100 CPs by now. Tha is unless you have a new spot you'd like to share with us?
Edited by Cuyler on March 5, 2015 8:03PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Huntler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah, but unless ZOS places some kind of exp cap in game the grinders/maxers will always find ways to push far about the 100kexp/hour average which I honestly think is fine. Reward players for being creative as long as its within reason as they put the effort to maximize their exp... its what makes MMOs interesting.0 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
I'd honestly take claims of never ending enlightenment with a grain of salt at the moment. Its probably far more likely that players either don't understand the system yet/misinterpreting it or aren't paying attention to when they are or are not enlightened. I do think given my experiences and others in this thread that some players might not be getting their enlightenment as they should as well as a display bug showing you "fake" enlightenment (which may also contribute to why players think they are getting more than expected).
Its not like some clown with unlimited enlightenment could really hide it, ZOS likely has estimates on what reasonable grinding should result in (even exaggerated) someone who has unlimited ultimate if you think about it when grinding should have extra hundred points by now if not more, that would stick out like a sore thumb.
Sadly, it is happening. A member of one of the guilds I am in has just breached 92 CP, Thats right we will never catch up and the game is ATM never going to be balanced. Im at 71.5 CP BTW never got enlightenment.
Thats through legitimate grind, there are 2 in my guild in the 90s at the moment through just grinding a couple champion counts an hour. Do the math. If they had unlimited enlightenment they would be in high 100's-200's at least by now. You're overreacting to something that doesn't exist.
That isn't proof, I've provided adequate evidence already. Think about it logically. With enlightenment you'd be gaining through reasonable grind somewhere close to 5-10 CS an hour. 90s isn't through broken enlightenment its through grind, if someone has a SS of someone in the 100s+ post that and then we might have reason to be concerned.
Nope not over reacting, its perma 'E' the drug that keeps on kicking. They have verified it and submitted bug tickets about it. Thus, grinding has been nurfed to the ground. I know, I tried it. Used to solo spellscar like cake on a NB Vamp. If players can pull that far away from the pack, getting CP then why do we even have the system? It creates a massive rift in this game to the point where, "If you don't have x amount of CP GTFO." Killing the ESO ideals of everyone playing what they want in this game. Not to mention the PVP being terribly unbalanced to the point where a new player can't even kill someone and dies repeatedly, regardless of skill. Hell just make it where you get one CP per day, but no. I enjoy the fact that I can progress my character via the CP System. Sadly, at the moment it is not working for me and many others, while some are enjoying an endless stream of 'E'. Grinding sucks, period; no if's, and's, or but's. I used to get 400+ exp from a mob at VR14 in spellscar, I now get 137xp. basically they have been gaining experience at an 'E' state since they are experiencing a "normal" 1.5.8 grind. Thus, they have perma 'E' even though it might not say it. The little blue pill known as 'E' is fritzing out in this game and need to be put down.
They nerfed that grind spot, it is well known/documented. I still see no real proof here. Screw my optimism as another called it, but I prefer to call it if you're going to claim something then back it up. I am afraid you're going to have ZOS thinking there is one bug when there is another and wasting time. The only proof I've seen is players not getting their deserved enlightenment. THAT needs to be fixed immediately because that is unfair to those players. As I said before it should be a cakewalk for ZOS to identify if there are players gaming unlimited Enlightenment somehow. 90s of CP is completely within the realm of possibility.
All I know is, I have been awake over 24 hours trying to grind out CP. This coming from a player that hit the grind at VR6 before this patch and got VR14 in about 24 hours. So, yea I know how to grind. That being beside the point which is, Im still well under 80CP is killing me. I have not been able to use 'E' once. I would go to town to sell all my stuff and repair to gain 'E' in stormhaven. I would then rush back to my xp area only to lose it never to return. I have tried logging, rebooting, waiting hours (4 actually). Still nothing. Thus, fudged sir. TTYL have fun grinding away your life, I'll be pixillating ships in space.0 -
Ysne58✭✭✭✭✭I think I figured out a small piece of this issue. When picking locks, which we get exp for, the legerdemane line shows up and while that is showing, the champion bar shows 0 % and no enlightement. I'll have to wait to find another chest to see if that experience actually shows up on the cp bar after wards.1 -
Lightword✭✭Huh, still nothing ZOS... can I get my x2 'E'?
Funny thing is, its only affecting a small portion of the population, no to mention the fact that many players cant use the official forums.0 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
It's not an 'exploit' that enlightenment is working as intended for some people and not for you.
Some trolls in this thread need to stop trying to terrorize people by talking about their 'friends' who have unlimited enlightenment and are 'grinding like madmen' in a 'secret location' and already have 'hundreds' of CP. I'm calling *** on all that right now. Show us proof. You don't because you don't have any.
Besides, you don't need enlightenment to easily be over 100 CP by now, 1.6 has been up and running for 48 hours. We were into vet ranks 48 hours after release, and it was a LOT harder to level back then.Edited by McDoogs on March 5, 2015 8:54PM0 -
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You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
It's not an 'exploit' that enlightenment is working as intended for some people and not for you.
Some trolls in this thread need to stop trying to terrorize people by talking about their 'friends' who have unlimited enlightenment and are 'grinding like madmen' in a 'secret location' and already have 'hundreds' of CP. I'm calling *** on all that right now. Show us proof. You don't because you don't have any.
Besides, you don't need enlightenment to easily be over 100 CP by now, 1.6 has been up and running for 48 hours. We were into vet ranks 48 hours after release, and it was a LOT harder to level back then.
I could kiss you... someone thinking reasonably and logically.0 -
Palidon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well I am glad to hear the enlightened is working for most folks that have posted in this topic. However for me it has not and I have been playing pretty steady since downloading 1.6 on Tuesday with a VR6 Sorcerer. I have not gained any CP points above the initial 70 I got when logging into the game after loading 1.6 and have completed several quests, found numerous new locations,, finished several solo delves, dolmans and world boss locations. It also seems to be taking a lot longer to gain xp for the next veteran rank. I am on the second part of Cladwels quests in the AD zones. Oh well nothing new. Some things work for some of the players and for others it does not.4 -
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✭I assume that ZOS will take a look at anyone who's got 100+ CP already, but I doubt such people exist. Then again, I'm never the guy who finds the super-secret-incredible-exp technique in these games. I just play a lot and hope for the best Snit AD Sorc
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I don't know that any users can provide the proof you are asking for because only ZOS will have reliable information.
You said your enlightenment eventually ended, but the other three people now in this thread reporting extra enlightenment did not say whether or not theirs ever ended.
Well if anyone actually does have it they sure aren't going to come in here and tell everyone about it. They're going to rake in points til their fingers bleed for as long as it lasts (or until they fall over).It would seem that in at least some cases:
If you lose enlightenment you lose all XP gained from it as well as CPs earned.
In other cases:
Some people are getting perpetual enlightenment.
Glad you are looking into it but I agree with others that @ZoS should also think about how to reset or balance it if this goes on for a week +
Enlightenment is 400% bonus right? A gap like this over time for those that have versus not (due to bugs) is just plain nasty.
I havent seen or heard any real proof that anyone has 'perpetual enlightenment' yet. I had ~3.5 CP worth of enlightenment this morning. I'd need hard proof of it before I believed anyone has unlimited enlightenment, otherwise it sounds like people are trolling or fear mongering.
Indeed, that is possible. The "rollback" phenomenon is definitely happening though.
Oh for sure, there are definitely some bugs negatively affecting some people's enlightenment, I just dont believe that anyone has perma-enlightmentment based solely on forum rumor
I guess we just have to wait for ZOS to take a look and sort it out. However long that takes.
Edit: I was wrong. Just saw the post right above mine. Yay for honesty.
Like i said earlier, I had about 3.5 CP worth of enlightenment when i logged on this morning, but it definitely wasn't indefinite.
Whatever the number extra you guys are getting - 2, 3.5, 4, 8, more - it is a huge exploit even though it's accidental on your part, and it's very disappointing to those of us who are getting none at all. I don't even want to play my veterans until this is resolved honestly.
It's not an 'exploit' that enlightenment is working as intended for some people and not for you.
Some trolls in this thread need to stop trying to terrorize people by talking about their 'friends' who have unlimited enlightenment and are 'grinding like madmen' in a 'secret location' and already have 'hundreds' of CP. I'm calling *** on all that right now. Show us proof. You don't because you don't have any.
But I am willing to hear them out when they share their experiences and give them a chance to try to demonstrate this instead of calling them names.
And hopefully we will receive official word soon in what is actually going on with our enlightenment that makes some people receive a lot more enlightened CP than others and some receive none at all (your 3.5 enlightened vs someone else's 4 vs someone else's 1 does not sound like a "fixed rate"). Whether it is unlimited or not is not the biggest issue here, it's the gap being created by some getting a lot more than others for the same effort.
Or perhaps they will come back and tell us that it was a lottery and you win and I lose.Happy All the Holidays To You and Yours!
Remembering better days of less RNG in all the things.2
