Cody wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

If you are hinting that AD & EP collaborate with one another on NA Thornblade , it's already known . There's no rule against it .

What?

The hate is strong against AD, blue targets are targets of opportunity

There's no hate from this one against AD . There are many faction RP'ers out there that would like to pit players against other players to make it look that way so they can their agendas working for more AP . Are you one of them ? If not then drop the whole "hate" act .

I mean the EP hate against AD is strong. We always prioritize hitting AD, if we can.

I see . Outside the game on the forums I wish you good luck . Enjoy the fights today . In game I must faction RP an say prepare to feel the wrath of DC EP Scum ! You may take our farms N our goats but you'll never take our FREEDOM!!!! (To faction rp)

*takes your freedom*

That emote was forbidden! Locked away in secret tomes!

Satiar wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

If you are hinting that AD & EP collaborate with one another on NA Thornblade , it's already known . There's no rule against it .

What?

The hate is strong against AD, blue targets are targets of opportunity

There's no hate from this one against AD . There are many faction RP'ers out there that would like to pit players against other players to make it look that way so they can their agendas working for more AP . Are you one of them ? If not then drop the whole "hate" act .

I mean the EP hate against AD is strong. We always prioritize hitting AD, if we can.

I see . Outside the game on the forums I wish you good luck . Enjoy the fights today . In game I must faction RP an say prepare to feel the wrath of DC EP Scum ! You may take our farms N our goats but you'll never take our FREEDOM!!!! (To faction rp)

*takes your freedom*

That emote was forbidden! Locked away in secret tomes!

When I am not making DKs run away from me in absolute terror in haderus(I really did make a DK run away from me once: the guy could take on entire raids by himself, yet he could not seem to take on I(me?) and my one ally. it was pretty good:)) I am exploring the deepest and farthest reaches of tamriel: collecting rare and lost artifacts and tomes for safe keeping or selling to some random shopkeeper in town.

I happened upon this emote in some castle in skyrim. The vamp lord there tried to kill me, but his batswarm spam did not save him, and the tome was mine.

You have no idea what I went thru to dispel the enchantment on it...

Satiar wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Cody wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

roechacca wrote: »

If you are hinting that AD & EP collaborate with one another on NA Thornblade , it's already known . There's no rule against it .

What?

The hate is strong against AD, blue targets are targets of opportunity

There's no hate from this one against AD . There are many faction RP'ers out there that would like to pit players against other players to make it look that way so they can their agendas working for more AP . Are you one of them ? If not then drop the whole "hate" act .

I mean the EP hate against AD is strong. We always prioritize hitting AD, if we can.

I see . Outside the game on the forums I wish you good luck . Enjoy the fights today . In game I must faction RP an say prepare to feel the wrath of DC EP Scum ! You may take our farms N our goats but you'll never take our FREEDOM!!!! (To faction rp)

*takes your freedom*

That emote was forbidden! Locked away in secret tomes!

When I am not making DKs run away from me in absolute terror in haderus(I really did make a DK run away from me once: the guy could take on entire raids by himself, yet he could not seem to take on I(me?) and my one ally. it was pretty good:)) I am exploring the deepest and farthest reaches of tamriel: collecting rare and lost artifacts and tomes for safe keeping or selling to some random shopkeeper in town.

I happened upon this emote in some castle in skyrim. The vamp lord there tried to kill me, but his batswarm spam did not save him, and the tome was mine.

You have no idea what I went thru to dispel the enchantment on it...

The League will be made aware of your deeds. Beware.

the tome is mine now! your League can't have it back! Do you have any idea how many of the pathetic gate campers from the dominion on Haderus I had to abduct and sacrifice to Sithis to dispel this enchantment?

It's mine! My precious!:D

Columba wrote: »

Collusion isn't cheating - completely legitimate. Relax, kids, lol. Several times last night we on DC saw AD and EP zergs completely ignore each other. It's okay and expected, but to deny it is farcical. I suppose they prefer to remain anonymous.

We ignore each other when it's convenient, just like we ignore DC when it's convenient. Mindlessly attacking is not a tactic I endorse.

Aoe_Barbecue wrote: »

Anonymous-One colludes with me regularly. However, it's usually sweet nothings and thinly veiled attempts to win my heart. That charming devil ...

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kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

I don't think EP has access to the game code to make such changes happen, it was merely a timing thing, the sever is slow to show flipped keeps from time to time.

There is always a delay between when the apse flag/nave flag are captured and when the keep changes color on the map. It happens whether or not the server is lagging. I think someone in this thread mentioned the Kill Counter add-on, which shows when each flag is actually captured.

There have been umpteen times when EP thought that they had stopped an Emp push because we were on both flags of a keep that AD or DC had already captured while the faction pushing for emp was taking the flags of the last keep they needed. According to the map, we had the flags before the other keep flipped. It's normal.

[As an observation, it seems to be getting a bit harder to tell the master trolls from those who are simply inexperienced with some aspect of the game. I figure though that either way a helpful explanation will benefit others who read through a thread and that it's best to be charitable in assuming the motives of any OP. This thread seems genuine, but it's definitely in the grey border zone.]

Tripwyr wrote: »

Most of the serious AD players are starting to get turned off from PvP due to the constant zerging of the major EP groups. None of us are interested in fighting the 100+ man EP zergs that result when all 3 major red groups zerg together.

Simply put, Red is the new Blue taking every keep with lag. It isn't enjoyable gameplay, and nobody is going to oppose them when they choose to do it.

So, in other words: EP is the new AD?

Cody wrote: »

Tripwyr wrote: »

Most of the serious AD players are starting to get turned off from PvP due to the constant zerging of the major EP groups. None of us are interested in fighting the 100+ man EP zergs that result when all 3 major red groups zerg together.

Simply put, Red is the new Blue taking every keep with lag. It isn't enjoyable gameplay, and nobody is going to oppose them when they choose to do it.

So, in other words: EP is the new AD?

If you believe AD was lagging the servers due to organized groups intentionally running massive numbers (like EP is doing now), then yes. I never experienced this because we limit our groups to 16, but its possible it happened with other guilds.

Tripwyr wrote: »

If you believe AD was lagging the servers due to organized groups intentionally running massive numbers (like EP is doing now), then yes. I never experienced this because we limit our groups to 16, but its possible it happened with other guilds.

I don't think he was referring to lagging the servers, just to zerging in general. And in the past, AD has done it as badly or worse than EP is doing it now.

I'll never understand why ZOS hasn't acted more vigorously to provide counters to the Zerg, when it was not only discouraging players and causing them to quit, but breaking their servers. They took a long time to do anything about Batswarm and Impulse and Talons, and even now one could say that Talons and Batswarm are still too strong. They nerfed oils when they knew it was one of the few counters to the zerg. And they delayed implementing the new zergbusting AvA skills for several months (when IMHO they are needed immediately). So I guess you reap what you sow.

Tripwyr wrote: »

Most of the serious AD players are starting to get turned off from PvP due to the constant zerging of the major EP groups. None of us are interested in fighting the 100+ man EP zergs that result when all 3 major red groups zerg together.

Simply put, Red is the new Blue taking every keep with lag. It isn't enjoyable gameplay, and nobody is going to oppose them when they choose to do it.

Just keep in mind EP been there for months. Like alot of people have mentionned already, players tried to switch over to EP from AD but too many came over. It is just a matter of time until EP reroll to other factions or spread out to other campaigns so DC and AD can offer a better challenge. Hopefuly ZOS will take some measures to force it to happen.

And regarding the Emp run, I was one of the rare EP inside Aleswell who actually slowed them down and called out in guild chat the % of the inner going down and when the flags flipped while my main group was at Roebeck. We got it a good 5 seconds before Aleswell turned yellow.

KBKB wrote: »

Kevinmon wrote: »

AD takes Aleswell right before EP gets Roebeck last emp keep

EP still gets emp even though AD has aleswell

Cheaters. Discuss

If this was the case blame *** servers (its easy and true!) not really EPs fault do you have a screen shot with the KCS add-on telling you both flags had flipped and or a map screen shot?

My beef with EP is they roll around night capping with a consta pop advantage takes a special (bad) kind of player to do this for extended periods of time.

lol just because you decide to go polish your nails while the majority of the pact gets on to PvP doesnt make us bad ....

AD blocked us hardcore yesterday. Several of our Emp pushes were foiled by AD burning camps on us. They used camps in pretty much every keep we attacked. We only ended up pushing for Emp when we saw they'd decided to go farm Blue up North. And to their credit, they Immediately raced to Alsewell in an attempt to foil our push.

Really had enough of the vague accusations. Please back up your claims or stop making them.

In a 3-faction map *** happens. But I keep hearing this nonsense in particular and it's getting old. I too was wary when they rolled EP, they'd been our greatest enemies. But they've proved themselves here, push hard for the Pact and do not collude with the other factions. Theyre a great team and It's just gotten so old hearing the same damn things about them, over and over without proof.[/quote]

AMEN BROTHER !!!!