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Where are the buffs to NB you promised 3 months ago?
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.
NB should have the best opener in the game, yet any class can attain this...
No, you shouldn't just be handed the best opener in the game simply because you clicked "Create" while NB was selected on the creation screen.
NB has passives, such as increased armor and resistance coming out of stealth / invis, higher damage from stealth, and a gap closer that gets Sneak attack bonus. They are also the only class w/ a stealth speed bonus morph, and abilities that interact directly w/ stealth, like Surprise Attacks.
They are the class w/ the highest utility when it comes to stealth. Asking to just kill all the things because you clicked the NB button months ago is silly.
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Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.
NB should have the best opener in the game, yet any class can attain this...
No, you shouldn't just be handed the best opener in the game simply because you clicked "Create" while NB was selected on the creation screen.
NB has passives, such as increased armor and resistance coming out of stealth / invis, higher damage from stealth, and a gap closer that gets Sneak attack bonus. They are also the only class w/ a stealth speed bonus morph, and abilities that interact directly w/ stealth, like Surprise Attacks.
They are the class w/ the highest utility when it comes to stealth. Asking to just kill all the things because you clicked the NB button months ago is silly.
/disagree
You are welcome to your opinion.
PS) A NB who actually bothers to buff their weapon damage beforehand still hits harder than any other class from stealth using Wrecking Blow.
But you can keep complaining, as my 2h NB will just get stronger, as will my restoblade. : )2 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.
NB should have the best opener in the game, yet any class can attain this...
No, you shouldn't just be handed the best opener in the game simply because you clicked "Create" while NB was selected on the creation screen.
NB has passives, such as increased armor and resistance coming out of stealth / invis, higher damage from stealth, and a gap closer that gets Sneak attack bonus. They are also the only class w/ a stealth speed bonus morph, and abilities that interact directly w/ stealth, like Surprise Attacks.
They are the class w/ the highest utility when it comes to stealth. Asking to just kill all the things because you clicked the NB button months ago is silly.
/disagree
You are welcome to your opinion.
PS) A NB who actually bothers to buff their weapon damage beforehand still hits harder than any other class from stealth using Wrecking Blow.
But you can keep complaining, as my 2h NB will just get stronger, as will my restoblade. : )
I want to play a DW NB, so I don't have the option of wrecking blow. Concealed weapon should hit just as hard, if not harder.3 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.
NB should have the best opener in the game, yet any class can attain this...
No, you shouldn't just be handed the best opener in the game simply because you clicked "Create" while NB was selected on the creation screen.
NB has passives, such as increased armor and resistance coming out of stealth / invis, higher damage from stealth, and a gap closer that gets Sneak attack bonus. They are also the only class w/ a stealth speed bonus morph, and abilities that interact directly w/ stealth, like Surprise Attacks.
They are the class w/ the highest utility when it comes to stealth. Asking to just kill all the things because you clicked the NB button months ago is silly.
/disagree
You are welcome to your opinion.
PS) A NB who actually bothers to buff their weapon damage beforehand still hits harder than any other class from stealth using Wrecking Blow.
But you can keep complaining, as my 2h NB will just get stronger, as will my restoblade. : )
I want to play a DW NB, so I don't have the option of wrecking blow. Concealed weapon should hit just as hard, if not harder.
Concealed Weapon doesn't have a cast time and costs half the resources of Wrecking Blow...
Why on earth should it hit harder? Just because you want it to?
Are you willing to double the magicka cost of Concealed Weapon and add an almost 2 second animation to it?
Oh yeah, and the ability to be interrupted and then set off-balance while using it?Edited by Varicite on September 5, 2014 4:54PM3 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.
NB should have the best opener in the game, yet any class can attain this...
No, you shouldn't just be handed the best opener in the game simply because you clicked "Create" while NB was selected on the creation screen.
NB has passives, such as increased armor and resistance coming out of stealth / invis, higher damage from stealth, and a gap closer that gets Sneak attack bonus. They are also the only class w/ a stealth speed bonus morph, and abilities that interact directly w/ stealth, like Surprise Attacks.
They are the class w/ the highest utility when it comes to stealth. Asking to just kill all the things because you clicked the NB button months ago is silly.
/disagree
You are welcome to your opinion.
PS) A NB who actually bothers to buff their weapon damage beforehand still hits harder than any other class from stealth using Wrecking Blow.
But you can keep complaining, as my 2h NB will just get stronger, as will my restoblade. : )
I want to play a DW NB, so I don't have the option of wrecking blow. Concealed weapon should hit just as hard, if not harder.
Concealed Weapon doesn't have a cast time....
Doesn't matter much when you are in stealth, you are not losing any time because the fight has not started yet.3 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.VagabondAngel wrote: »
...and finally got around to doing that.VagabondAngel wrote: »I might give the dps meter another whirl later and see what I can get now.
If I get close enough to open with Concealed Weapon, its a one-hit 2.6k
I'm using full medium armour and dw - 5x Hunding's Rage and 4x Ashen Grip.
Abandon Concealed:
- 0 NB skills/passives were used.
- Other Classes can get higher opener dmg than NB.
NB should have the best opener in the game, yet any class can attain this...
No, you shouldn't just be handed the best opener in the game simply because you clicked "Create" while NB was selected on the creation screen.
NB has passives, such as increased armor and resistance coming out of stealth / invis, higher damage from stealth, and a gap closer that gets Sneak attack bonus. They are also the only class w/ a stealth speed bonus morph, and abilities that interact directly w/ stealth, like Surprise Attacks.
They are the class w/ the highest utility when it comes to stealth. Asking to just kill all the things because you clicked the NB button months ago is silly.
/disagree
You are welcome to your opinion.
PS) A NB who actually bothers to buff their weapon damage beforehand still hits harder than any other class from stealth using Wrecking Blow.
But you can keep complaining, as my 2h NB will just get stronger, as will my restoblade. : )
I want to play a DW NB, so I don't have the option of wrecking blow. Concealed weapon should hit just as hard, if not harder.
Concealed Weapon doesn't have a cast time....
Doesn't matter much when you are in stealth, you are not losing any time because the fight has not started yet.
Except that you need to stay near your opponent for an extra almost 2 seconds longer and hope you aren't detected.
Also, still costs half what Wrecking Blow does.
See my above edit, btw. : P
Wrecking Blow has a huge opportunity cost associated w/ it, while Concealed Weapon has.. none. There's a reason that Wrecking Blow is one of the hardest hitting abilities in the game, and why Concealed Weapon is not.
If you want to continue ignoring this, that's fine. Not everybody is in favor of a balanced game, obviously.
Edited by Varicite on September 5, 2014 4:57PM2 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭Except that you need to stay near your opponent for an extra almost 2 seconds longer and hope you aren't detected.
Also, still costs half what Wrecking Blow does.
WB cast time is 1 second... why do you have to be closer for 2 seconds? And concealed weapon cost ~70% less, not 100% less. But regardless I get your point.0 -
morvegil✭✭✭✭Awesome, i have wrecking blow but found it took to long to get off in PVP..maybe i will revist it. When you hit from stealth...are u casting Shadow Disguise or just going up to ppl while crouching?Lo'ke
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭Awesome, i have wrecking blow but found it took to long to get off in PVP..maybe i will revist it. When you hit from stealth...are u casting Shadow Disguise or just going up to ppl while crouching?
I think the most damage is from crouch, as you don't get the stealth damage bonus from Shadow Disguise (I'm fairly sure).
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Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭WB cast time is 1 second... why do you have to be closer for 2 seconds? And concealed weapon cost ~70% less, not 100% less. But regardless I get your point.
Says the cast time is 1 second, but you have to wait for animation to play.
It's closer to 2 seconds before damage kicks in. Try it out yourself.0 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭Awesome, i have wrecking blow but found it took to long to get off in PVP..maybe i will revist it. When you hit from stealth...are u casting Shadow Disguise or just going up to ppl while crouching?
I think the most damage is from crouch, as you don't get the stealth damage bonus from Shadow Disguise (I'm fairly sure).
Also, this is true.
You just stealth up behind someone and hit them w/ Wrecking Blow. It's helpful to use Rally beforehand, if you have that.0 -
Samadhi✭✭✭✭✭
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PS) A NB who actually bothers to buff their weapon damage beforehand still hits harder than any other class from stealth using Wrecking Blow.
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Buff Weapon Damage with which skill though?
Drain Power and morphs require the Nightblade to hit targets before receiving the buff, so it isn't entirely viable to use before Sneak attacks.
Reapers Mark requires a Nightblade to kill a target before receiving the buff, so it faces the same issue.
Momentum works, but all other classes have access to that buff as well. In the case of Sorcerer, I am told that Surge stacks on top of Momentum.
Nightblade does have a 10% increase to Weapon Damage while crouched; however, does that outweigh the bonus provided by Surge at end game?
I'm really interested by the mechanics you are suggesting, but I didn't stick with a 2-handed build on any of my characters, so I'm kind of in the dark."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
Wisdom is doing Now that which benefits you later.
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Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
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PS) A NB who actually bothers to buff their weapon damage beforehand still hits harder than any other class from stealth using Wrecking Blow.
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Buff Weapon Damage with which skill though?
Drain Power and morphs require the Nightblade to hit targets before receiving the buff, so it isn't entirely viable to use before Sneak attacks.
Reapers Mark requires a Nightblade to kill a target before receiving the buff, so it faces the same issue.
Momentum works, but all other classes have access to that buff as well. In the case of Sorcerer, I am told that Surge stacks on top of Momentum.
Nightblade does have a 10% increase to Weapon Damage while crouched; however, does that outweigh the bonus provided by Surge at end game?
I'm really interested by the mechanics you are suggesting, but I didn't stick with a 2-handed build on any of my characters, so I'm kind of in the dark.
I was talking about Momentum, which stacks w/ the Master Assassin passive, and since 2handers are already extremely close to the weapon damage softcap on their own, the difference between popping Surge or Momentum is pretty negligible.
I've.. never seen any Sorc using both Momentum and Surge, but I'm sure that there's somebody out there who might do this. Doesn't seem worth it to me, though, thanks to overcharging and opportunity cost.
I honestly didn't think about stacking them, so you are probably right that Sorc can get off a higher damage Wrecking Blow from stealth. : P0 -
DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
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PS) A NB who actually bothers to buff their weapon damage beforehand still hits harder than any other class from stealth using Wrecking Blow.
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Buff Weapon Damage with which skill though?
Drain Power and morphs require the Nightblade to hit targets before receiving the buff, so it isn't entirely viable to use before Sneak attacks.
Reapers Mark requires a Nightblade to kill a target before receiving the buff, so it faces the same issue.
Momentum works, but all other classes have access to that buff as well. In the case of Sorcerer, I am told that Surge stacks on top of Momentum.
Nightblade does have a 10% increase to Weapon Damage while crouched; however, does that outweigh the bonus provided by Surge at end game?
I'm really interested by the mechanics you are suggesting, but I didn't stick with a 2-handed build on any of my characters, so I'm kind of in the dark.
You don't need to buff your weapon damage through any skill, you can easily reach the soft cap just by getting the correct gear & enchanting your jewelry with +weapon damage.
It is possible to even reach hard cap as Nightblade afaik, but that'd require some serious commitment to weapon damage (and sacrificing some +crit chance set-bonuses)0 -
R0M2K✭✭✭✭
No, you shouldn't just be handed the best opener in the game simply because you clicked "Create" while NB was selected on the creation screen.
Thats exactly why YES you should, you were promised something at the class description that differs from reality in-game.NB has passives, such as increased armor and resistance coming out of stealth / invis
Yes, 3 wooping seconds.higher damage from stealth
Higher than who? a sorc can get more dmg from stealth than a NB.and a gap closer that gets Sneak attack bonus
Critical rush is avaliable to everybody, is a gap closer and, as any skill, get bonus from stealth.PS) A NB who actually bothers to buff their weapon damage beforehand still hits harder than any other class from stealth using Wrecking Blow.
Lol dude, check the skill trees & morphs, a sorc can do more dmg from stealth than a NB, it has been tested, stop saying nosense.
Also you forgot to mention WB as more range than CW/SA = lower chance to be detected.I've.. never seen any Sorc using both Momentum and Surge, but I'm sure that there's somebody out there who might do this. Doesn't seem worth it to me, though, thanks to overcharging and opportunity cost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVGuyFcd8nk Edited by R0M2K on September 5, 2014 10:19PM3 -
Varicite✭✭✭✭✭
✭and a gap closer that gets Sneak attack bonus
Critical rush is avaliable to everybody, is a gap closer and, as any skill, get bonus from stealth.[/quote]
Actually, Critical Rush is always a critical, which overrides the sneak attack bonus. They aren't the same thing.
A sneak attack gives a higher damage multiplier than a normal crit.
I'm pretty sure I said that I was sure there were people who do this, but that doesn't make it seem worth having 2 weapon damage buffs on my bar when it's already overcharged.0 -
Honfold✭✭✭I have a theory that Zenimax is waiting to buff the stamina Nightblade/Rogue class when the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood patch comes out. That is assuming that they will get skill tress.1
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭I have a theory that Zenimax is waiting to buff the stamina Nightblade/Rogue class when the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood patch comes out. That is assuming that they will get skill tress.
I am worried that the Thieves Guild and DB will make the NB useless. I hope that they don't give these new guilds all rogue abilities, because then the NB with have nothing unique.5 -
Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭VagabondAngel wrote: »My NB can burst from stealth for 2600 damage, with sustainable dps of 600-800.... doesn't seem broken to me. In fact that was at VR7, so its probably more by now (VR10). The only problem with NBs is damage mitigation but since we're assassins, that is by design I guess.
The earlier problem with NB passives not working has been fixed hasn't it? So what exactly is the problem?
What race and build are you using?0 -
Luvsfuzzybunnies✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »Luvsfuzzybunnies wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »
Let's start with fixing Cloak so that NBs dot's don't break it. (known bug. Cited as such by devs)So a little more clarification, if you please.
Buffs?
We have a DoT tree (Siphon), with DoTs on Magicka capped toons that do 700 dmg over 12 seconds. Now remember, people regenerate 50-150 health every 2 seconds That 700 is now 400 over 12 seconds.
How about our AoE skill Path of Darkness. 72 dmg per second with the dmg morph. It was buffed from 65 dmg...
Blur, this should be our defensive cooldown, but 15% chance to miss REALLY? 15%? Not enough to take a bar spot.
Shades, their only purpose is to chase off a newb or hope he holds block. They do ZERO damage. Seriously 0 dmg.
I can go on, but I will settle for a fix to Cloak and being stuck in combat.
These are L2P issues, not buff issues.
But, yes, I would like some changes to cloak mechanics. But in this stealth game, limited ability to enter stealth during combat seems like it is working as intended.
Right, you exactly right. Your own DoTa should definitely pop you out of cloak. Makes perfect sense.
I suspect you have never bothered to play a NB to a higher level, and you are just talking out your behind.
HI
So you are saying that our own dots -should- break cloak then?
Yes...
Your own dots should break cloak...I don't know why you'd think it wouldn't.
I'm curious as to why you think you bleeding get should affect me being in stealth?
Because I realize how bloody powerful it'd be to be able to just apply a bunch of dots and then stealth over and over again?
Its probably why they never "fixed" it.
So wanna make sure I'm understanding what you are saying. I put a few dots on you that hit for probably around 40 per tick let's say I use 4 dots each ticking at 60 a tick I'll be generous. Since 5th slot occupied by cloak. Now I put poison arrow(stamina ability) on you initial hit could be for 500 no stun mind you. Followed by 3 magicka based dots since I would think we're talking most effective least possible chance for me to get hit. Now I used 300 magicka per dot applied plus 300 per use of cloak(1200 magicka for those counting considering I just cloaked once). So if magicka specced I might have 1000 magicka left for 3 more cloaks and a possible 4th from regen. Cloak lasting 2.9 seconds with passives = roughly 15 seconds of invisibility if you don't charge me or bolt or hit me between me trying to apply 3 dots to you. Basically you standing afk and letting me hit you.. I'm also not aware of any nb dots that cause permanent stun like your class is known for. I just don't see that being powerful vs GDB, blazing sheild, sorcs many sheild combos. But I guess you're right 300 damage a second is way too powerful better keep cloak the way it is.
Jukette VR12 DC Nightblade 14 day campaign.
Kitten Kisser VR12 DC Sorcerer 14 day campaign0 -
Luvsfuzzybunnies✭✭✭I'll just drop this in here,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ3855ByW4E&list=UUOlHSbEXKy0Bn7zQsG2ig_A
Check out his channel, and come again about NB's 1v1 abilities. I mean he dont even switch weapons.
I see no videoJukette VR12 DC Nightblade 14 day campaign.
Kitten Kisser VR12 DC Sorcerer 14 day campaign0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have a theory that Zenimax is waiting to buff the stamina Nightblade/Rogue class when the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood patch comes out. That is assuming that they will get skill tress.
I am worried that the Thieves Guild and DB will make the NB useless. I hope that they don't give these new guilds all rogue abilities, because then the NB with have nothing unique.
At a guess. Thieves guild will probably be stamina based aggro disposal. Tricks that shrink an opponent's detection radius, maybe a detraction ability to send patrols looking wherever you throw it. We might see some kind of mobility enhancements like a grappling hook that works at specific points. Which could explain why it wasn't ready at launch.
For passives we'll probably see a way to reduce bribe costs, and maybe the ability to pickpocket characters in dialog.
Dark Brotherhood will probably bring the stamina based assassination tools people keep thinking the Nightblade should have. Superficially I'd expect them to have something like Veiled Strike with an actual dagger, and the jump over and shank you in the back attack we've been seeing from rogues since the game released. They might be the gatekeepers for the poison crafting, which would be neat. If they have a unique dialog option, I have the feeling it will be <Remain Silent.> I would expect some superficial similarities with the Assassination tree, but I don't think much of Shadow or any Siphon abilities are likely to make an appearance.1 -
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✭The point is they admitted to bugs and broken skills. Promised to fix them and nothing these have been there since launch. It took three months to get a response so I'm guessing a year for the promised fixes.1 -
Luvsfuzzybunnies✭✭✭1. My next gripe is how you think it's bad that some of your skills use wp/sp and stamina/mana, while as a sorcerer all my skills use mana and spellpower. If it's not clear which one your skills use, that is a serious problem and those tooltips really should be updated, but that's it.
2. If I choose to go stamina melee build, pretty much none of my skills support that. Oh, surge does. Play as you want, as ZOS advertised, and one of your class skills will support that. Pretty epic, eh? But poor nightblades, they have more possibilities, so they should get some buffs.
1. If I want toMost NBs who know how to play, two shot any player in Cyrodiil.
= BS
Needs re-phasing - Most NB's can 2 shot other NB's in cyrodil who DON'T know how to play. However so can ANY other class so this is not a NB thing and your point is mute unfortunately.
Also Snipe hitting 2k can happen - BUT and crucially BUT, Only against people who are geared like baffoons. A DK who knows how to play is genuinely un-killable 1 on 1 if you use a bow that is a fact. I'm sorry but if you think this is incorrect I feel you are 1 of to things. Naive and lacking in PVP knowledge, or a DK trying to hide the fact that we are still the boss class:)
If you have been killed 1 on 1 by a bow user as a DK you are doing something very very wrong lol. In fact if you have been killed 1 on 1 by any other class than DK I would suggest you are doing something a bit wrong.
Finally someone who gets it.Jukette VR12 DC Nightblade 14 day campaign.
Kitten Kisser VR12 DC Sorcerer 14 day campaign0 -
Vizier✭✭✭✭✭
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Let's start with fixing Cloak so that NBs dot's don't break it. (known bug. Cited as such by devs)So a little more clarification, if you please.
Buffs?
We have a DoT tree (Siphon), with DoTs on Magicka capped toons that do 700 dmg over 12 seconds. Now remember, people regenerate 50-150 health every 2 seconds That 700 is now 400 over 12 seconds.
How about our AoE skill Path of Darkness. 72 dmg per second with the dmg morph. It was buffed from 65 dmg...
Blur, this should be our defensive cooldown, but 15% chance to miss REALLY? 15%? Not enough to take a bar spot.
Shades, their only purpose is to chase off a newb or hope he holds block. They do ZERO damage. Seriously 0 dmg.
I can go on, but I will settle for a fix to Cloak and being stuck in combat.
These are L2P issues, not buff issues.
But, yes, I would like some changes to cloak mechanics. But in this stealth game, limited ability to enter stealth during combat seems like it is working as intended.
Stealth may be working as intended. It's Cloak that is not. NB is supposed to be stealth master but is no better at it then any other class. If cloak actually worked correctly by breaking combat in a way that allowed them to restealth and or actually lasted the 2.5 seconds and actually removed the multiple dots or added crit value's it's supposed to that would be a nice start. As is under most PvP situations cloak has to be spammed about every .5 seconds, cloak breaks if you fart in your robes or someone pisses downwind in your general direction, it doesn't remove the NB from "combat" so they can't go into stealth once it runs out.
Additionally for the magicka expended it should trump magelight for the time it's activated...just sayin.Edited by Vizier on September 6, 2014 7:12PM2 -
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✭You know what works like cloak/disguise should without the extra perks? invis pots, and they last longer.
ZOS is perfectly capable of fixing this, they choose not to. They are too body nerfing stupid things and releasing trials and higher vr caps.Dear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.4 -
Braddass✭✭✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
I agree it is not an exploit, but I do not think it was an intended outcome. Much like the Dark Stalker issue, they did not anticipate the effect of Annimation Canceling.
Just because it is not an exploit, does not mean it won't be fixed.0 -
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✭tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »
I agree it is not an exploit, but I do not think it was an intended outcome. Much like the Dark Stalker issue, they did not anticipate the effect of Annimation Canceling.
Just because it is not an exploit, does not mean it won't be fixed.
What you gain from animation cancelling is a barely noticeable increase to dps, due to internal cooldowns on attacks.
It's not the huge increase that people seem to think it is, which ZOS presumably understands just judging by their stance.0 -
morvegil✭✭✭✭SO do invis pots work in combat? For some reason I cant stealth for MINUTES after a fight....why is that?Lo'ke
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