Store updates: anyone in your alliance can browse your guild store in Cyrodiil if your guild owns a keep.

So, you will have one more guild store per keep to buy from, if you go Cyrodiil and check those keeps, individually.

Not exactly convenient.

Also bad if you hate PvP and/or Cyrodiil.

Traders: The Gold Coast Trading Company will establish kiosks throughout the cities of Tamriel. The merchants running the kiosks can be hired by guilds on a weekly basis (via auction) to act as a portal to their guild’s store, which can be browsed by any player in the guild’s alliance. Auctions use a blind bidding process and are held once a week per merchant.

I don't see how this will work. As a guild leader, I have to spend my gold (or the guild's gold) to be able to sell to others in the game.

It has to be the highest bid, so I can only guess it might get expensive.

I don't know if it will be worth it.

I'm not against the idea of searching for bargains. I guess we'll see if this helps.

I still don't see the downside of an AH, but I'll try to keep my hopes up this will help.

rynth wrote: »

no matter what people will still continue to sell stuff on zone chat and spam the heck out of it, I doubt that will ever stop

AHs help minimize the /zone sales chat.

That is why it was created in the first place.

seanolan wrote: »

You know what kills me? The sheer stupidity and bull-headedness of so many AH fanboys. ZoS has stated, numerous times, their reasoning behind not having an AH. And the best counter arguments the fanboys have ever come up with is either "But it's hard to find my Mighty Stick of Beatdown in 10 minutes without one" or, failing that, when ZoS explains the problems with having a global AH in a world-wide megaserver, they simply respond "Nuh-uh!"

What exactly are their reasons? That it'll destroy the economy? Mission's already accomplished. There is no economy. I don't bother trying to buy, I don't bother trying to sell. That an AH in a megaserver might make it possible to buy good stuff? Well, duh. That's the whole point of an economy. The reason they don't want an AH is they want a broken as heck economy. They *want* us back at east commons WTB FBSS in /zone.

Now sure, maybe *if* a guild takes a keep in Cyrodil people can browse that guilds wares. But I doubt most trade guilds are taking keeps. Heck, that's a PvP zone in the first place. I wouldn't be all that surprised if most players aren't even going in to Cyrodil. I know I've never been and have no real inclination to go. This is an RPG. It's combat is, by definition, mostly based on character stats, and will therefor fail for player skill based PvP. By definition.

That said, ok, yeah. Maybe when guild stalls come out and about in the major cities things will be "better"... but then, at that point, isn't that just a global AH with a ridiculously horribly cumbersome interface?

I love there is no AH. Its fun that you need to work for it and just can't buy all you like on AH.
Also stupid that so people just stand there and do nothing els but and sell and make prises go up.

No as it is now is really good. But look forward for the public guild traders.

tordr86b16_ESO wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

rynth wrote: »

no matter what people will still continue to sell stuff on zone chat and spam the heck out of it, I doubt that will ever stop

AHs help minimize the /zone sales chat.

That is why it was created in the first place.

look at wow and you will see ppl using the chat channel for trading. you and they, zos, are wrong. im sick of watching my most active trading guild with 300 inactive members.

I did not say it stopped /zone sales chat. I said it help minimize it.

Let's put it this way. Look at every item that is in the guild store right now.

Every item that is being sold there is another potential "/WTS X item!" that was not made, because it went on the guild store instead.

In EQ, /zone chat sales were so bad, you could not read zone chat in some zones. Then they added a bizarre zone where people could act like AHs.

That really help clear the /zone sales chat a huge amount.

Kulthax wrote: »

SaibotLiu wrote: »

Kulthax wrote: »

SaibotLiu wrote: »

Yeah it's totally cool when theme park games which have no item decay give you unlimited access to stacks of hundreds of the same item which you'll never need to buy again, all which can be obtained in a matter of seconds. This definitely makes the item seem valuable and unique.

It's not immersion breaking at all when every crafter on the game is putting up stacks of the exact same item, undercutting each other by 1g on a 50k item.

We should totally go into every game that attempts to do something different and attempt to get it changed to be like every other theme park on the market. Because that's what were used to, and there can't possibly be any other way to do things.

It really should be all about my convenience as a player. There shouldn't be dynamics that would result in me putting effort or time into the economy, because that's boring. It's much more exciting when I snap my fingers and whatever I want just shows up in front of me.

I actually don't want to participate in an economy and strengthen it for the good of the game and other players. I want the economy to serve me because I am the center of the gaming universe, at all times.

Plus WoW had it...

You have valid points but your condescending tone defeats your post.

Fine by me. Anyone who thinks this topic warrants a serious response at this point is wasting their time.

Any valid points about the topic have already been made, and gone completely lost on the intended audience.

Yet you continue to post....

Key words: serious response.

This issue is dead, I don't see why you're whinging about me giving you consolation posts.

It's about all you're gonna get.

philip.ploegerb16_ESO wrote: »

Hi.

Today I searched for 5h for a "Bastion of the Dragon" in VR12. I offered up to 30k at some time, still, I didn't find anybody, probably not because such a person doesn't exist wanting to sell one, but simply because he's busy with other things / in a different zone / whatever.

Instead of having fears, about that the Mega-server-structure would crash the economy, think what you're doing to us players. We want to play your game and have fun, but you're preventing us from doing so, because seriously, who goes and plays when 1 piece of critical equipment is missing?

Hoping that you fix this soon.

@Seraiel (EU)

I bought one set tonight from a trade guild I am not member of. (EU server).
(Sword, Shield and helmet).

After searching the 4 trade guilds I am a member, I just did a quick question to those guilds, not a "WTB YYYYYYY", but a proper enquiry if anyone has the items. Few people replied that going to check on the guilds they are member of, they found the items few minutes later.

Bought the cheapest ones, and job done. Gave also a small fee for the trouble to the guys who did the brokering, and everyone was happy.

You need to have connections, being polite to people, engage to conversations and be known. As long as you have connections, you can find anything at best prices than in an auction house. And yes I do help others when they have similar enquiries.

Heh, I even bought 3 part set (2 light 1 ring) of the Warlock VR12 for 15K in total, by just asking around. While market price is 8-10K per piece.

And could have cost me that, if there was an auction house there, where everyone sold at the same price.

Thus, comes from experience playing EVE Online. 10 minutes trip down to a different region, and bought something 1/3 of the price than in Jita, where everyone was buying.

philip.ploegerb16_ESO wrote: »

SaibotLiu wrote: »

Fine by me. Anyone who thinks this topic warrants a serious response at this point is wasting their time.

Any valid points about the topic have already been made, and gone completely lost on the intended audience.

Redundance works against things getting lost, so it's absolutely normal, that people repeat over and over the same things. In this specific case, the AH must not be forgotten, that's why threads demanding it will pop up continously until ESO devs will surrender to reason.

I btw. got the shield I searched for after 6.5h of searching.

That number is just so hillarious, that I hope it'll make some Devs, but also some of the people saying that "this is working as intended", listen, though those comments were ironical, ESO Devs programing time-sinks of that dimension though, will only become ironical once ESO devs need to invest time / money on winning back players that they lost through their own stolidity.

How certain you sound about uncertainties.

philip.ploegerb16_ESO wrote: »

Hi.

Today I searched for 5h for a "Bastion of the Dragon" in VR12. I offered up to 30k at some time, still, I didn't find anybody, probably not because such a person doesn't exist wanting to sell one, but simply because he's busy with other things / in a different zone / whatever.

Instead of having fears, about that the Mega-server-structure would crash the economy, think what you're doing to us players. We want to play your game and have fun, but you're preventing us from doing so, because seriously, who goes and plays when 1 piece of critical equipment is missing?

Hoping that you fix this soon.

@Seraiel (EU)

Not sure if someone in this thread mentioned this already, but with Update 3 (as I recall) there will be guild store kiosks throughout major cities and at keeps that are owned by a guild will have their guild store available as well.

So you won't have a global AH, but you will have the ability to effectively "go shopping" for what you're seeking.

Have you heard about the things they call "Trading Guilds" ? You have to make some effort to get money in this game.

"because seriously, who goes and plays when 1 piece of critical equipment is missing?"

Umm... most of the people who are not fussy ? For 1 missing thing, there are 50 others. Don't tell me you can't enjoy the game just because you can't sell 1 piece of equipment within 30 minutes of looting it...

Akiainavas wrote: »

Have you heard about the things they call "Trading Guilds" ? You have to make some effort to get money in this game.

"because seriously, who goes and plays when 1 piece of critical equipment is missing?"

Umm... most of the people who are not fussy ? For 1 missing thing, there are 50 others. Don't tell me you can't enjoy the game just because you can't sell 1 piece of equipment within 30 minutes of looting it...

Learn to read -> think -> write instead of post -> read -> think.

philip.ploegerb16_ESO wrote: »

Hi.

Today I searched for 5h for a "Bastion of the Dragon" in VR12. I offered up to 30k at some time, still, I didn't find anybody, probably not because such a person doesn't exist wanting to sell one, but simply because he's busy with other things / in a different zone / whatever.

Instead of having fears, about that the Mega-server-structure would crash the economy, think what you're doing to us players. We want to play your game and have fun, but you're preventing us from doing so, because seriously, who goes and plays when 1 piece of critical equipment is missing?

Hoping that you fix this soon.

@Seraiel (EU)

And here I am complaining that my guild chats are being flooded with this set..