This *bleeping* game is unplayable
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LrdRahvin✭✭✭✭✭incandescent wrote: »
Indeed I amLrdRahvinb14a_ESO wrote: »g4m5t3r_ESO wrote: »
? I patched two and a half hours before you made this post.incandescent wrote: »it's Monday and it's 6pm, and there doesn't appear to be any sign of a patch yet.
Pretty sure he's EU based on time and having no patch
Ditto, and yet another evening of dying to invisible mobs.
Don't sweat it EU folks cause the patch we got here in NA didn't fix the fps /stuff not loading till it's beating on you issues.![:\](https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
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NoirJ✭✭✭
So another case of dammed if you do and damned if you don't. Appreciate the heads up though @LrdRahvinb14a_ESOLrdRahvinb14a_ESO wrote: »incandescent wrote: »
Indeed I amLrdRahvinb14a_ESO wrote: »g4m5t3r_ESO wrote: »
? I patched two and a half hours before you made this post.incandescent wrote: »it's Monday and it's 6pm, and there doesn't appear to be any sign of a patch yet.
Pretty sure he's EU based on time and having no patch
Ditto, and yet another evening of dying to invisible mobs.
Don't sweat it EU folks cause the patch we got here in NA didn't fix the fps /stuff not loading till it's beating on you issues.
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jnjapexb14_ESO✭✭✭The majority of people don't even know about this forum let alone come here and post... Our guild team speak of 40 is constantly buzzing with "crap re-logging due to FPS issue" or "what the h*** is wrong". Contacted other guilds and they say the same, make a post in zone chat and get flooded with replies saying unplayable. Actually most people me included have stopped playing, stopped caring at this point.5 -
HelpingHand✭✭✭MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »
I understand performance issues usually involve a problem in hardware, but logically, there is virtually NO WAY that immediately after a patch, multitudes of people who were able to play the game fine suddenly experience drastic FPS drops.
While, as in any new game, there will undoubtedly be server optimisation issues that will get resolved at the developers' end, the fact remains that some players do notice a difference in performance when a major patch is released, either because their machine was only marginally coping before and the changes in the patch tipped it over the edge, or because they have a specific piece of hardware/driver that has compatibility issues with the patch. It isn't possible for developers to expose a patch to the level of testing in QA or on a public test server that it will get on the live servers, so such issues simply can't be anticipated and prevented.
The biggest misconception is that because a player's computer can play games X, Y and Z without any problems it must be the developer's fault that it cannot play game A. All games place different demands on the CPU and GPU in particular, and those demands will vary from one patch to another. If your system has a weak spot at some point a patch will expose it.
The advice to upgrade graphics card drivers to address such issues is in my view usually an erroneous one, as the code will not have usually been developed around the latest drivers. Graphics card drivers follow game updates, not the other way round. If you're struggling with a current driver you're generally better off rolling it back to a proven rock solid one from a year or more ago, rather than updating it to the latest unproven beta driver.
Moreover, these problems aren't always related to hardware. Run a clean machine with no browsers open, no background applications other than for security, and no addons for the game itself. Most people would be amazed to discover how much crap they have running on the machine when they're trying to run a CPU/GPU intensive game!
This guy wins. The rest of you, quit downloading ***, turn off your add ons, and minimize strain on your hardware when you play ESO. Most of us have NO problems running this game. The few that do, marginal. The problem is on your end, but don't worry, ZOS will do everything they can to get you back in Tamriel.5 -
incandescent✭✭✭
(1) I have a top spec machine and have never used any add-onsHelpingHand wrote: »This guy wins. The rest of you, quit downloading ***, turn off your add ons, and minimize strain on your hardware when you play ESO. Most of us have NO problems running this game. The few that do, marginal. The problem is on your end, but don't worry, ZOS will do everything they can to get you back in Tamriel.
(2) I have a 100Mbps internet connection and I'm not running any other software
(3) I have repeatedly been involved in battles where everyone gets logged out
(4) Zone chat is full of people complaining about it
(5) Zenimax acknowledged it's a problem they're trying to fix (according to Tandor)
So enough already.
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NoirJ✭✭✭HelpingHand wrote: »MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »
I understand performance issues usually involve a problem in hardware, but logically, there is virtually NO WAY that immediately after a patch, multitudes of people who were able to play the game fine suddenly experience drastic FPS drops.
While, as in any new game, there will undoubtedly be server optimisation issues that will get resolved at the developers' end, the fact remains that some players do notice a difference in performance when a major patch is released, either because their machine was only marginally coping before and the changes in the patch tipped it over the edge, or because they have a specific piece of hardware/driver that has compatibility issues with the patch. It isn't possible for developers to expose a patch to the level of testing in QA or on a public test server that it will get on the live servers, so such issues simply can't be anticipated and prevented.
The biggest misconception is that because a player's computer can play games X, Y and Z without any problems it must be the developer's fault that it cannot play game A. All games place different demands on the CPU and GPU in particular, and those demands will vary from one patch to another. If your system has a weak spot at some point a patch will expose it.
The advice to upgrade graphics card drivers to address such issues is in my view usually an erroneous one, as the code will not have usually been developed around the latest drivers. Graphics card drivers follow game updates, not the other way round. If you're struggling with a current driver you're generally better off rolling it back to a proven rock solid one from a year or more ago, rather than updating it to the latest unproven beta driver.
Moreover, these problems aren't always related to hardware. Run a clean machine with no browsers open, no background applications other than for security, and no addons for the game itself. Most people would be amazed to discover how much crap they have running on the machine when they're trying to run a CPU/GPU intensive game!
This guy wins. The rest of you, quit downloading ***, turn off your add ons, and minimize strain on your hardware when you play ESO. Most of us have NO problems running this game. The few that do, marginal. The problem is on your end, but don't worry, ZOS will do everything they can to get you back in Tamriel.
Oh dear god, do you really think we are a bunch of half wits?
I've been in IT now for 20 years moved through 1st to 3rd line and am now in Service Management, I know when I'm being screwed.
My machine is fine, my connection is fine, I have no issues with ANY OTHER GAME or application, and in fact can multibox EvE off this PC.
And you and that other know it all are telling me and the other people reporting issues that we are at fault....this beggars belief. You're either woefully ill informed about every aspect of this or you work for ZOS either way you're not helping.
Tell you what, lets see if we can get an official response from ZOS eh? Let them come on here and tell everyone that all the performance issues are down to the players. You know what...wont happen because they know they have a major issue. Which is why you don't see any of them responding to these threads in any helpful manor or indeed at all.
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skillastat✭✭✭✭Lot of people say they can't even get good fps when in cyrodill in LOW GRAPHICS.
Did you even tryed a second to see what this game looks like in low graphics ?
After that tell them they can't have good fps while pvp in elder scrolls low graphic, while they play battlefield 3 (for example) in very high/ultra.
THAT'S LOGICAL
Before patch 1.2.3 it was so smooth and nice to play.
Now it's like the broken time after Craglorn Update.
Everytime a major update goes live, PvP become unplayable.... for a time, till they fix it....
so we will play again smoothly and nice, till another content update.
ZoS is in hurry to release more and more content but they need to tweak this game to it's best right now. I would like to see a major update without effect on PvP, even if it takes longer time for the release.Edited by skillastat on June 30, 2014 7:14PM(PC NA)
-Saulo Stamina Sorcerer
-skillastat Stamina Nightblade
-a blade spirit Stamina Templar
-Ultima Online I Magicka Dragonknight
-'Solo DC* Stamina Sorcerer
-'Ultima Online Stamina Dragonknight
-Nerd Dk Tank Dragonknight
-Solochi Magicka Sorcerer
-Solo Lucci Magicka Nightblade
-Sølomon Magicka Warden
*All characters are EP, except for one DC.
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HelpingHand✭✭✭They acknowledged that people are having problems and they are trying to incorporate a fix that will work for those people. I can type a bunch of things that aren't true just like you, but instead I keep it factual.
1. I have a higher end machine and don't use add ons.
2. I have a 50Mbps internet connection and I run EVE online, WoW and Hearthstone in the background.
3. I have repeatedly been involved in battles where NO ONE gets logged out.
4. Zone chat has no one talking about these issues.
Get a clue already.Edited by HelpingHand on June 30, 2014 7:21PM2 -
HelpingHand✭✭✭I run my game on Ultra all day, no issues. What's your problem? You know why ZOS doesn't respond? Because they don't need to respond to something that isn't their fault. You have a problem with cause and effect don't you? I wonder why??1
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NoirJ✭✭✭HelpingHand wrote: »They acknowledged that people are having problems and they are trying to incorporate a fix that will work for those people. I can type of bunch of things that aren't true just like you, but instead I keep it factual.
1. I have a higher end machine and don't use add ons.
2. I have a 50Mbps internet connection and I run EVE online, WoW and Hearthstone in the background.
3. I have repeatedly been involved in battles where NO ONE gets logged out.
4. Zone chat has no one talking about these issues.
Get a clue already.
1 Decent machine, no add ons
2 68 Mbps connection can run WoT, SWTOR, EvE, DC online, PS2, RUST, Rift and MWO fine, I ran WoT, EvE and MWO in Baghdad over a MW connection on this Machine and had better performance than I do in game currently.
3 Cant speak for that
4 Yes I have seen Zone chat mention the performance issues.
We have a Clue and your rude and unhelpful as well as having no idea what the hell you're talking about.3 -
incandescent✭✭✭
How much clearer can I make this:HelpingHand wrote: »They acknowledged that people are having problems and they are trying to incorporate a fix that will work for those people. I can type a bunch of things that aren't true just like you, but instead I keep it factual.
1. I have a higher end machine and don't use add ons.
2. I have a 50Mbps internet connection and I run EVE online, WoW and Hearthstone in the background.
3. I have repeatedly been involved in battles where NO ONE gets logged out.
4. Zone chat has no one talking about these issues.
Get a clue already.
ZENIMAX HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THERE'S A PROBLEM
Can't you read?
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NoirJ✭✭✭HelpingHand wrote: »Rude and a great reader, and a factual speaker.
Quit digging, or you'll need a Visa.2 -
HelpingHand✭✭✭No I wouldn't, eventually I would be incinerated by the extreme heat of Earth's core. How do you not know this?0
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✭✭HelpingHand wrote: »MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »
I understand performance issues usually involve a problem in hardware, but logically, there is virtually NO WAY that immediately after a patch, multitudes of people who were able to play the game fine suddenly experience drastic FPS drops.
While, as in any new game, there will undoubtedly be server optimisation issues that will get resolved at the developers' end, the fact remains that some players do notice a difference in performance when a major patch is released, either because their machine was only marginally coping before and the changes in the patch tipped it over the edge, or because they have a specific piece of hardware/driver that has compatibility issues with the patch. It isn't possible for developers to expose a patch to the level of testing in QA or on a public test server that it will get on the live servers, so such issues simply can't be anticipated and prevented.
The biggest misconception is that because a player's computer can play games X, Y and Z without any problems it must be the developer's fault that it cannot play game A. All games place different demands on the CPU and GPU in particular, and those demands will vary from one patch to another. If your system has a weak spot at some point a patch will expose it.
The advice to upgrade graphics card drivers to address such issues is in my view usually an erroneous one, as the code will not have usually been developed around the latest drivers. Graphics card drivers follow game updates, not the other way round. If you're struggling with a current driver you're generally better off rolling it back to a proven rock solid one from a year or more ago, rather than updating it to the latest unproven beta driver.
Moreover, these problems aren't always related to hardware. Run a clean machine with no browsers open, no background applications other than for security, and no addons for the game itself. Most people would be amazed to discover how much crap they have running on the machine when they're trying to run a CPU/GPU intensive game!
This guy wins. The rest of you, quit downloading ***, turn off your add ons, and minimize strain on your hardware when you play ESO. Most of us have NO problems running this game. The few that do, marginal. The problem is on your end, but don't worry, ZOS will do everything they can to get you back in Tamriel.
Guys, I think you missed the sarcasm train that just rolled over you
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HelpingHand wrote: »
As someone who is unable to play at all due to technical difficulties since 1.2.3, I've found forum cattiness/flame wars to be an amusing source of entertainment lol.
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