Do you help other players and just walk on by?

Anastasia

BrassRazoo wrote: »

I always try and help. I mean I appreciate all help so I try and return the favour.
I just hope I'm not spoiling their 'immersion".
Like if the want to complete the quest alone or are fighting a mini boss, I'm not sure if I'm actually helping sometimes if I pull aggro or what-not.
Then again sometimes you just find yourself doing the same thing in the same place and can't help but contribute to another players quest requirements.
This is good and bad, as I love how you just dynamically group, even without asking for party as you just know you are after the same goal.

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Agreed Brass - I almost always try to help but I do take a sec to see/note if I think they need it. I often after someone jumping in to help me, type in /say "Thanks" or "Appreciate that" -- I've had a few stop and sort of turn their character toward me but never, ever, ever answer back lol!

In the "Old Days" *giggles, one would *bow, *salute or say something short in the local /say channel. Bah on so little communication now. I still help though mostly in situations where the players health is obviously plummeting. I know occasionally I may have stepped in too soon when they could have made it, but you only have a second or so to decide ;o).

Good journeys!

AlMcFly

I help others if I see their life bars struggling. Though I get walked by a lot.

PBpsy

RylukShouja wrote: »

I help out whenever I deem it necessary (or sometimes by accident). I know some people prefer to succeed (or fail) by their own merit, but if I see someone with <25% health I will usually throw a heal their way. I have only seen three or four people who are in dire need of help, and when I saved them from certain death, they all thanked me, either in tell or /say.

The only people I have ever had mad at me were a guy who was soloing a world boss I needed credit for (in which case you're SOL, if I walk up to a world boss I need that is up, I'm gonna do my best to down it) and once when I accidentally rolled in on a group of mobs without seeing the player. He didn't say anything, but he did follow me around for two minutes attempting to chop my head off with his 2h sword.

A rule of thumb for me: I help on world bosses I need and dolmens in general. I heal players who look doomed to fail (under 25% health still facing multiple mobs of over 50% health), and I shoot first and ask questions later. The most assessment of a mob I do before attacking is looking to see whether I think I can handle it...if I gank your quest mob from under you, it is almost certainly because I just saw an enemy and fired off a spell.

There is no problem with getting in on a world boss fight especially in VR zones. But if you see someone trying to solo one they probably know what they are doing and use some special rotation in order to survive. Take a second to observe what they are doing and then try to complement their tactic and be careful not to bring any extra trash. I can only remember two times when the help didn't get me killed. Sometimes I can't figure out if the help wants to help and fails or they are just griefing.

Worstluck

Always stop and help. If I wanted to play a single player game I would.

Evergnar

Aside from group dungeons/bosses I just look to see if there ok. If they are then I don't mess with them. They may not want you to. If they look like they're in trouble I'll give em a quick hand.

Sorpaijen_ESO

I'll throw out a heal or buff in passing, but the ONE time I burned a Soul Gem, the guy just lay there dead until I eventually just left. Not sure if he was AFK or if it was a bot, or what... not sure that a Soul Gem gets USED if the player "refuses" to activate the rez, or not, but in any event I don't 'waste' them any more. Got weapons to charge, after all. And those DO cost money (or time).

zoetaz1616

Froobert wrote: »

Yep. I saved some guy getting destroyed by a troll. Shield Charge FTW.

I'm starting to think you work for Shield Charge, Inc.

tinythinker

METALPUNKS wrote: »

Throughout leveling you'll see many players struggling as well as yourself. How many times do people actually stop to help or do you stop and help players if needed? I'm not talking about players who are on the same quest as you, I'm talking about as your walking out of a quest as they are walking and you see the getting best up.

I stop every single time.

Yes, I always help. You get experience for it and it is just something I like to do. I've never been in trouble and not had a nearby player come to aid me, either.

METALPUNKS wrote: »

EDIT-UPDATED Question

Do you ever use soul gems on players, not counting pvp? Has anyone ever used one on you?

I don't use them in every person I see but there times when someone has been helping me for a while and I'll use one if I notice they are not getting right up. Nobody has ever used one on me, I understand though.

They almost always vanish to the nearest wayshrine, so even when I have charged soul gems of the right capacity it's a mostly moot issue for me. I would if I could.

OrangeTheCat

If I see someone fighting something and their health bar is really low, or if they are running for their life, I will stop and kill whatever it is causing them grief. Other than that, not really as people seem to get annoyed when I do.

Bhakura

I know yall gonna take me for an egotripper again. But i dont help, i actually hate it when people barge in on my fights, especially when its a one of a kind fight, like end quest battles.
Or tuf cookies to crak like harvesters, so what if i die, leave me alone and go pick your own fight. Im training on harvesters here and youre not helping AT ALL, just leeching. You wouldnt have charged that harvester if i wasnt there so why now?
leech.
So if i can avoid barging in on other people fights i definitely will, dont care for easy loot like everyone else seems to care. Sadly im quite alone in that and its even more painfull clear in public dungeons which i love running solo, always end up with a few adoring fans following me around and waiting for me to attack first, they never attack by them selves.
Once put my self out of harms way, seemingly camping, 2 guys stayed camping with me. Few minutes later "when does boss spawn?" i replied, "im just semi afk, eating a sandwich", and it took several minutes more before they left, go figure.

Doesnt mean i dont help where help is needed, if i see a guy getting roflstomped and making all kinds of weird moves to try stay alive, yea i will help out. If somone is on same quest and running from mob to mob ill run the other way and find my own mobs.

RylukShouja

PBpsy wrote: »

RylukShouja wrote: »

I help out whenever I deem it necessary (or sometimes by accident). I know some people prefer to succeed (or fail) by their own merit, but if I see someone with <25% health I will usually throw a heal their way. I have only seen three or four people who are in dire need of help, and when I saved them from certain death, they all thanked me, either in tell or /say.

The only people I have ever had mad at me were a guy who was soloing a world boss I needed credit for (in which case you're SOL, if I walk up to a world boss I need that is up, I'm gonna do my best to down it) and once when I accidentally rolled in on a group of mobs without seeing the player. He didn't say anything, but he did follow me around for two minutes attempting to chop my head off with his 2h sword.

A rule of thumb for me: I help on world bosses I need and dolmens in general. I heal players who look doomed to fail (under 25% health still facing multiple mobs of over 50% health), and I shoot first and ask questions later. The most assessment of a mob I do before attacking is looking to see whether I think I can handle it...if I gank your quest mob from under you, it is almost certainly because I just saw an enemy and fired off a spell.

There is no problem with getting in on a world boss fight especially in VR zones. But if you see someone trying to solo one they probably know what they are doing and use some special rotation in order to survive. Take a second to observe what they are doing and then try to complement their tactic and be careful not to bring any extra trash. I can only remember two times when the help didn't get me killed. Sometimes I can't figure out if the help wants to help and fails or they are just griefing.

If I am engaged in my own fight, I am usually too focused on my immediate surroundings to notice things going on in the background. And I'm sorry, but if I roll up on a world boss I don't have, I am going to join in. I'm not gonna let you solo it, forcing me to wait or come back later. I clear every world boss and dolmen in the area before moving on (call me a completionist) and having to inconvenience myself for someone else's personal ego...sorry.

I don't mean to be inflammatory, but that is how I see those types of situations. I don't want to make your play time less fun (I will never trollingly dump mobs on your head intentionally, and if I do realize I am training them I grab their aggro immediately and polish them off before doing anything else), but I will roll in on world bosses I don't have.

PBpsy

RylukShouja wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

RylukShouja wrote: »

I help out whenever I deem it necessary (or sometimes by accident). I know some people prefer to succeed (or fail) by their own merit, but if I see someone with <25% health I will usually throw a heal their way. I have only seen three or four people who are in dire need of help, and when I saved them from certain death, they all thanked me, either in tell or /say.

The only people I have ever had mad at me were a guy who was soloing a world boss I needed credit for (in which case you're SOL, if I walk up to a world boss I need that is up, I'm gonna do my best to down it) and once when I accidentally rolled in on a group of mobs without seeing the player. He didn't say anything, but he did follow me around for two minutes attempting to chop my head off with his 2h sword.

A rule of thumb for me: I help on world bosses I need and dolmens in general. I heal players who look doomed to fail (under 25% health still facing multiple mobs of over 50% health), and I shoot first and ask questions later. The most assessment of a mob I do before attacking is looking to see whether I think I can handle it...if I gank your quest mob from under you, it is almost certainly because I just saw an enemy and fired off a spell.

There is no problem with getting in on a world boss fight especially in VR zones. But if you see someone trying to solo one they probably know what they are doing and use some special rotation in order to survive. Take a second to observe what they are doing and then try to complement their tactic and be careful not to bring any extra trash. I can only remember two times when the help didn't get me killed. Sometimes I can't figure out if the help wants to help and fails or they are just griefing.

If I am engaged in my own fight, I am usually too focused on my immediate surroundings to notice things going on in the background. And I'm sorry, but if I roll up on a world boss I don't have, I am going to join in. I'm not gonna let you solo it, forcing me to wait or come back later. I clear every world boss and dolmen in the area before moving on (call me a completionist) and having to inconvenience myself for someone else's personal ego...sorry.

I don't mean to be inflammatory, but that is how I see those types of situations. I don't want to make your play time less fun (I will never trollingly dump mobs on your head intentionally, and if I do realize I am training them I grab their aggro immediately and polish them off before doing anything else), but I will roll in on world bosses I don't have.

Have you read the post? I never said don't join the fight . I said if you do, do it in such a way you don't get us both killed. If you on the other hand are going to intentionally get me killed so you don't have to wait the respawn timer . maybe then we can talk about egos.

Bhakura

RylukShouja wrote: »

and having to inconvenience myself for someone else's personal ego...sorry.

Why is it everyone wanting to solo its obviously related to personal ego ...
I like solo, especially in MMO, not because of ego but because it tells me how well i am doing.
Theres solo instances in this MMO for this very reason, it tells you how well you are doing, cant pass it? That should tell you something too, but instead people cry its to hard then ask for help to get passed it, then join up for dungeon and getting wiped times and times over, well why do you think that is?

SadisticSavior

METALPUNKS wrote: »

Throughout leveling you'll see many players struggling as well as yourself. How many times do people actually stop to help or do you stop and help players if needed?

I rarely help unless it is really obvious they are about to die. I consider it rude to intrude on them. I would not want them "helping" me if positions were reversed.

The death penalty is trivial in this game. In a game like Eve it might be different.

devolutedub17_ESO

Bhakura wrote: »

RylukShouja wrote: »

and having to inconvenience myself for someone else's personal ego...sorry.

Why is it everyone wanting to solo its obviously related to personal ego ...
I like solo, especially in MMO, not because of ego but because it tells me how well i am doing.
Theres solo instances in this MMO for this very reason, it tells you how well you are doing, cant pass it? That should tell you something too, but instead people cry its to hard then ask for help to get passed it, then join up for dungeon and getting wiped times and times over, well why do you think that is?

By the same token, you'll just have to accept that if you are out in the open and someone jumps in on a fight that's just the way it is. You'll just have to get over it and go do it all over again when no one else is around.

reggielee

lol yesterday i was picking a lock on a chest and when I got up there was some dude trying desperately to take the reward from it, he failed, so I then trundled up and watched him die a horrible death on a world boss while I dangled my lovely healing staff in front of him. after he died, I then stepped up and killed the boss over his body. good times

Bhakura

devolutedub17_ESO wrote: »

By the same token, you'll just have to accept that if you are out in the open and someone jumps in on a fight that's just the way it is. You'll just have to get over it and go do it all over again when no one else is around.

Which i do alot even if it means camping for 10+ minutes

Elvent

All the time, I have player health bars turned on so I can see their health and I'm playing a healer so I have come across many people stuggling with low health and have saved many lives during my time helping questing/leveling and never got a thank you except from one person lol.

Oh well, I don't care if they thank me or not, I just like the feeling of saving their life hehe.

Gwarok

cortechsnub18_ESO wrote: »

I'll help if the person is in trouble, or we are doing the same content. If not, then I let them fight their own battles, as that is what I prefer myself.

It is disappointing to be engaged in a fun fight, only to have someone come along and spoil it.

I'll usually toss well placed boulder to the back of a mob's head, or throw down a Volcanic Rune if one has multiple mobs on them and they're in trouble/low health then move on. (IMO), it doesn't really spoil the fight and is just enough to turn the tide to the player's side for a victory.

zaria

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Typically i like to play alone with the gf. If people are in our way we typically try to wait for them to move along or go a different way. But if it is a public dungeon or something we will hook up with whoever is around and going through it. Just a little quicker.

Although i have been known to hang out and watch people die. Usually only after I've been in the middle of 3-4 mob fight to have said person just run right by me to the quest item and then just stand there. At that point I'm more then willing to watch you fall.

That one is obvious, if you are an bunch of players in a public dungeon and someone is rushing while to others are looting or other stuff they should learn a lesson.

zaria

teox76 wrote: »

I generally tend to stop and help as I can, is sad to notice that 9 times out of 10 people don't even care to say thank you or interact in any way, they rush to their next goal. The social part of MMOs seem sto be very underrated at those days, and is a pity.

One downside in ESO is that you have to stop to talk, it was far easier to chat in wow. And yes lots of people is to stressed to type "ty"
This one wonder, is the game going somewhere and they have to keep running to keep up?

Grampa_Smurf

I always help out if I'm running by or someone asks for help. I'm in no rush to level doing all quest as I go. I use soul gems all the time, I usually stock up on about 50 before I go into a PvP match....nothing worse then getting killed and having to run all that way back.

zaria

Sorpaijen_ESO wrote: »

I'll throw out a heal or buff in passing, but the ONE time I burned a Soul Gem, the guy just lay there dead until I eventually just left. Not sure if he was AFK or if it was a bot, or what... not sure that a Soul Gem gets USED if the player "refuses" to activate the rez, or not, but in any event I don't 'waste' them any more. Got weapons to charge, after all. And those DO cost money (or time).

Might be that the death sends player to an wayshrine so he can just continue to next location or that the shrine was close and he did not want you to waste an soulgem.
has done this myself in dungeons, or as you say he might use the some who died and used the event to go AFK.

Have use enemy players to fast travel in PvP too
This explains most of the idiots who charges a large group alone.

DeLindsay

When I'm out and about if I see a player near me that's fighting I will always check on their Health bar, if it's near full I move along, if he/she looks to be in trouble I will dismount and help, remount and move along. I don't use soul gems on every random person who dies in the world but if I'm at a world boss or anchor, etc then I have no issues rezz'ing someone since they were there helping too.

Bhakura

So WEIRD, all replys are people turning the tide with witty placed skills without braking a fun fight.
yet all i see in game are people trying very very hard to get one last hit in before fight is over so they can loot ... STRANGE

RylukShouja

PBpsy wrote: »

RylukShouja wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

RylukShouja wrote: »

I help out whenever I deem it necessary (or sometimes by accident). I know some people prefer to succeed (or fail) by their own merit, but if I see someone with <25% health I will usually throw a heal their way. I have only seen three or four people who are in dire need of help, and when I saved them from certain death, they all thanked me, either in tell or /say.

The only people I have ever had mad at me were a guy who was soloing a world boss I needed credit for (in which case you're SOL, if I walk up to a world boss I need that is up, I'm gonna do my best to down it) and once when I accidentally rolled in on a group of mobs without seeing the player. He didn't say anything, but he did follow me around for two minutes attempting to chop my head off with his 2h sword.

A rule of thumb for me: I help on world bosses I need and dolmens in general. I heal players who look doomed to fail (under 25% health still facing multiple mobs of over 50% health), and I shoot first and ask questions later. The most assessment of a mob I do before attacking is looking to see whether I think I can handle it...if I gank your quest mob from under you, it is almost certainly because I just saw an enemy and fired off a spell.

There is no problem with getting in on a world boss fight especially in VR zones. But if you see someone trying to solo one they probably know what they are doing and use some special rotation in order to survive. Take a second to observe what they are doing and then try to complement their tactic and be careful not to bring any extra trash. I can only remember two times when the help didn't get me killed. Sometimes I can't figure out if the help wants to help and fails or they are just griefing.

If I am engaged in my own fight, I am usually too focused on my immediate surroundings to notice things going on in the background. And I'm sorry, but if I roll up on a world boss I don't have, I am going to join in. I'm not gonna let you solo it, forcing me to wait or come back later. I clear every world boss and dolmen in the area before moving on (call me a completionist) and having to inconvenience myself for someone else's personal ego...sorry.

I don't mean to be inflammatory, but that is how I see those types of situations. I don't want to make your play time less fun (I will never trollingly dump mobs on your head intentionally, and if I do realize I am training them I grab their aggro immediately and polish them off before doing anything else), but I will roll in on world bosses I don't have.

Have you read the post? I never said don't join the fight . I said if you do, do it in such a way you don't get us both killed. If you on the other hand are going to intentionally get me killed so you don't have to wait the respawn timer . maybe then we can talk about egos.

Again, I wasn't trying to be inflammatory. I misunderstood the intent of your post. But if you had read mine I specifically mentioned that I am careful about dragging mobs on our head. I never train mobs around the zone because I just think that's silly, and I definitely don't train them into bosses and dolmens.

But we are getting way off topic.

Bolo_Bob

i use to use soul gems on random players like you, then i took a boss loot drop nerf to the inventory.

i still help people tho, but i dont even second glance at a dead player now i just keep on truckin.

i use to farm about 20 to 30 soul gems from boss's and use them through out the map on random dead players.

claudius_Dark

I always feel so noble helping others. I'll relay two experiences

1) I was like 4 levels higher than the people I helped. I was far away sprinting at top speed and then spammed the dawns wrath first skill from my templar and quickly dispatched the badies. The best was they had I guess an emoticon bound to their keyboard and I heard someone say 'thank you'.

2) I saw a guy running from 2 level 7 enemies and I was level 9... So I again with my dawns wrath templar skill fired at them. So the two agro'd me and just at that moment I had agro'd two mobs of my own! So I had to fight four at once and luckily I made it with like 1 hitpoint.

But yes I feel heroic if I aid others. And no big deal if my armor gets a ***.

claudius_Dark

Catches_the_Sun wrote: »

I'm a drive-by healer too. So many times I hit somebody with just a sliver of health. Sometimes if they're in a prolonged battle I'll hang back to make sure they're alright. Only thing I don't like is when somebody that is completely underleveled for content "piggybacks" off you...following you around & tagging the mobs so they can get credit when they clearly can't do it on their own.

Oh no. I didn't realize someone might not like that. I did it once and thought it was a good strategy. I didn't realize I would take their xp.

METALPUNKS

Just had this happen to me lastnight. Was about to leave a this place I was questing in and had finished and beat the boss. I start to walk out and notice a player who is struggling really bad, so I stop and help, in the middle of helping this player he stops runs over to a chest and leaves me hanging, I die and he walks off. I had all the enemies fighting for my life and this dude stops and grabs the chest. If it were reverse roles I would of sent a pm to the guy or girl and said thank you and that he could grab the chest.