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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Do you help other players and just walk on by?

  • JD2013
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    I'm a helper.
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  • Artemiisia
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    I always help people, I look at their health and mobs around to see if they need help, even if im on my horse, I hurry jump off it and nuked the mobs, and jump on horse again right after, I dont look for a thank you, just kill and then im on my way again.

    I dont expect people to help me, but really appreciate it, one thing that gets on my nerve is when it looks like we help each other like say in a dungeon, and I suddenly pull massive amount of mobs, thinking we 2-3 still, and then he/she suddenly abandon me, I get the feeling for a second why do I have others.

    Thats only for a second, since I know thankfully its a few people only that only think about themselves.

    So short answer, I help where I can :)
  • Caran
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    Depends a lot on the situation. How was the player behaving before? Did he get himself into a difficult situation on purpose because the was counting on my help? Then I might not help him ... I don't appreciate being pulled into other people's fights / quests (if he asked before, it's a totally different matter).
    Did he just try to get to the locked chest faster than me and is this the reason for his predicament? Then I might not help him ... but if he is closer to the chest now than I am, I will wait for the end of the fight he is in ... if he can win, he can have the chest.
    Or the example above: I helped them with an event and when it was my turn they left me alone ... I remember that. Or ... you have to close a portal, but it is guarded ... I fight my way to that portal, I'm no battle with the last guard and while I'm doing this, the other player (who has just been following me) runs past me and closes the portal ... I won't help him fight off the spawning enemies then.
    I do not use soul gems on dead players.
    If the other player and I see that we have the same goal and he does seem to work together with me, of course I'll help. In most other situations, I'll help, too (but helping is not hitting the mob once to be able to loot it when the other player's health bar is full! ... I only help if help is needed in my opinion).
  • teox76
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    I generally tend to stop and help as I can, is sad to notice that 9 times out of 10 people don't even care to say thank you or interact in any way, they rush to their next goal. The social part of MMOs seem sto be very underrated at those days, and is a pity.
  • thebugdulit
    If I see somebody near death I help if they aren't running and I can target and hit the mob. I sometimes use soulgems if I have an abundance of them. On a side note, I do get really irritated when I am melee fighting a mob and some DK runs by and uses that chain pull thingermajig and steals the mob from me and I have to run over to them to continue fighting or to loot it.
  • MistryssNite
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    teox76 wrote: »
    I generally tend to stop and help as I can, is sad to notice that 9 times out of 10 people don't even care to say thank you or interact in any way, they rush to their next goal. The social part of MMOs seem sto be very underrated at those days, and is a pity.
    This can be hard. By the time players get their bearings and chat up, the other player is probably long gone and probably doesnt have an easy name to remember. I do make sure to thank people if I'm grouped up with them, though.

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  • Vanathi
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    Ran across a level five player in a level 15 dungeon one day. He kept following me to tag what I was fighting... until he fell behind and the mobs respawned. As I was there for the dungeon not save some idiots ass I kept going. Naturally he died and I then received a crap ton of hate tells that left me crying I was laughing so hard.
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  • Knootewoot
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    ....... I try to revive people all the time and they never accept it. I carry stones around just for that.

    This i don't understand. I also have this that the revive is declined, even during PvP sometimes. Why? Why? WHYYYYYY?

    That blablabla was rude. If you want to quote a person, you just delete what is said before the part you want to quote and then leave it.

    Fixed, and sorry
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  • phairdon
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    Often. More than willing to help other players if I come across them having a difficult time killing enemy npc's/creatures that may or may not be quest related.
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  • Fruity_Ninja
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    I help all the time, unless I am in a real rush to get somewhere. In that case, I'll only help if they look in trouble.

    If it is a boss or Dolmen, and someone asks in chat and I am close by- I will nearly always reply back and tell them to wait 1-2 mins and I will be there to help. I know the feeling when you can't get help and really need it, it's a pain in the ass.

    Had a really good run today in Vet level dolmens, where another group links up with our group to complete 3 dolmens. 7 people total, much easier than trying to do it on your own in a group of 3-4.

    People power. Those who don't help others, shame on you :P
  • Rev Rielle
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    I do yes, my character is a templar and I RP immersively so it's kind of hard not to. But that being said, unfortunately I am doing so less and less of late. The community (as a whole in MMOs over the years) has really gone down the toilet, and honestly I get tired of being abused just for trying to help out. People really need to get over themselves.
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  • Froobert
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    Yep. I saved some guy getting destroyed by a troll. Shield Charge FTW.
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  • RylukShouja
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    I help out whenever I deem it necessary (or sometimes by accident). I know some people prefer to succeed (or fail) by their own merit, but if I see someone with <25% health I will usually throw a heal their way. I have only seen three or four people who are in dire need of help, and when I saved them from certain death, they all thanked me, either in tell or /say.

    The only people I have ever had mad at me were a guy who was soloing a world boss I needed credit for (in which case you're SOL, if I walk up to a world boss I need that is up, I'm gonna do my best to down it) and once when I accidentally rolled in on a group of mobs without seeing the player. He didn't say anything, but he did follow me around for two minutes attempting to chop my head off with his 2h sword.

    A rule of thumb for me: I help on world bosses I need and dolmens in general. I heal players who look doomed to fail (under 25% health still facing multiple mobs of over 50% health), and I shoot first and ask questions later. The most assessment of a mob I do before attacking is looking to see whether I think I can handle it...if I gank your quest mob from under you, it is almost certainly because I just saw an enemy and fired off a spell.
  • FrauPerchta
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    I'm a drive by helper. Always check a player's and mobs involved health. If it looks like the player is in too deep I will help a little with a knock down/back or a heal. (depending on my character)
  • DenverRalphy
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    I tend to help out in a manner that I know wouldn't annoy me should the roles be reversed.

    If they seem to have things well in hand and are obviously in no danger, I'll throw in a few shots just to end the fight. After all, they really didn't need the help. But I will refrain from using any leash/lasso/knockback, as I tend to become irritated when I'm in a fight, have a good skill rotation going, just to suddenly see my opponent suddenly fly off behind me and/or out of range.

    If they seem to be in dire peril, the first thing I will do is use leash/knockback (or any type of CC) to get them out of immediate danger, then proceed to nuke.

    I make it a habit to thank anybody who actually did help me in a struggle or saved me from certain doom. But I also find it shocking how many people comment on a lack of a "thank you" when all they did was assist somebody that was still at full health, had full control of the situation, and saved them about 2 seconds of time (I see the ensuing bickering about it in zone chat more often than one would expect).
  • MistryssNite
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    I have a few questions: for those reading this thread, do you mind getting healed while in battle, regardless of your health? Or would you prefer it only when you have low health, prefer no healing, or have no preference? I would like to know if it's better if I continue to heal or leave players be until they are suffering. Additionally, would you prefer a heal or help battling, if in need.

    I actually like it when someone offers ANY form of aid...even when I don't need it.
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  • Czinger
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    I always do. Especially if there health is low and its 3 on 1.
  • DenverRalphy
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    I have a few questions: for those reading this thread, do you mind getting healed while in battle, regardless of your health? Or would you prefer it only when you have low health, prefer no healing, or have no preference? I would like to know if it's better if I continue to heal or leave players be until they are suffering. Additionally, would you prefer a heal or help battling, if in need.

    I actually like it when someone offers ANY form of aid...even when I don't need it.

    If I need it, I'd be very appreciative for any heal you toss my way. But if I don't need it, go ahead and tag the opponent instead, as I'd hate for you to miss out on a loot drop because you healed me when I didn't need it and you never got credit for the kill.
  • RylukShouja
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    As a class who can heal, I usually don't care all that much (or even really notice) when someone heals me. The only time I find myself needing heals are those "oh ****" moments when I notice I just aggrod that second group in the public dungeon and wasn't watching my health. ...which usually results in me dead. So I won't say no to a heal, but the only times I really NEED healing are idiot moments I should never have put myself in in the first place.

    Oh, and those times that someone trains six groups of mobs on my head as I aoe the group I'm fighting. I love those times.
  • RianaTheBosmer
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    ....... I try to revive people all the time and they never accept it. I carry stones around just for that.

    This i don't understand. I also have this that the revive is declined, even during PvP sometimes. Why? Why? WHYYYYYY?

    That blablabla was rude. If you want to quote a person, you just delete what is said before the part you want to quote and then leave it.

    Fixed, and sorry

    Apology accepted, just sounded like what I said was white noise.

  • Ghanima_Atreides
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    I only have one character who can heal and she's just level 14 so I haven't had a lot of time to experiment but I have definitely healed players who looked like they needed it as well as played the healer role while fighting world bosses (it's a new experience for me, as I'm usually DPS :P ) It was fun, and got some thanks too.

    Generally though I try to help if someone looks like they're in trouble, as for world bosses and people trying to solo them...I admit, if I was after the achievement, I joined in regardless. Hopefully I haven't pissed anyone off.

    In general though I've found people are not very communicative in the game...I have yet to strike up a chat longer than a couple of minutes. That's partly my problem though, as I'm a tad socially-awkward.
    Edited by Ghanima_Atreides on May 15, 2014 4:18PM
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  • Artemiisia
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    I help all the time, unless I am in a real rush to get somewhere. In that case, I'll only help if they look in trouble.

    If it is a boss or Dolmen, and someone asks in chat and I am close by- I will nearly always reply back and tell them to wait 1-2 mins and I will be there to help. I know the feeling when you can't get help and really need it, it's a pain in the ass.

    Had a really good run today in Vet level dolmens, where another group links up with our group to complete 3 dolmens. 7 people total, much easier than trying to do it on your own in a group of 3-4.

    People power. Those who don't help others, shame on you :P

    what zone :) I had a sweet run with some as well and were 7 in them, wicked fun for sure.

    Its a great way to do some grouping, monster hunting/dolmon destroying/public dungoens, and a way to get out of the normal dailey quests if u need a small break from it

  • Salsadoom
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    It depends, some person in the red getting smacked around? Sure. Someone who looks like they got it handled, it depends.

    Reason being as some people like to solo things and get their kicks from surviving on their own. Some people want to solo that boss.

    So really it's a judgement call.
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    METALPUNKS wrote: »
    Throughout leveling you'll see many players struggling as well as yourself. How many times do people actually stop to help or do you stop and help players if needed?

    Do you ever use soul gems on players, not counting pvp? Has anyone ever used one on you?

    1) No. Players often don't want help or don't want people "stealing" their mob or xp. I know you can't, but you'd be surprised how many think you can and get irritable about it.

    2) No. Many times I started using one on someone and they either hit the respawn key before I finished or were /afk and thus didn't respond to the rezz offer. I don't bother wasting my time now and, frankly, I decided that if they aren't bright enough to have Soul Gems of their own, tough.
  • madfeldoreb17_ESO
    I like to help people (or my main character does, not sure what happens when I start to play another:) I like to help even those who I do not know or are not in my group / guild. I'm still pretty new on this game even though I've played quite a lot. Talking about a slow but happy traveler, that's me:) But...
    ... it can be a tricky business. While reading the above comments and what I've already seen myself I'm thinking: How to help, when to help and who to help? I'm still "lucky" I guess that the times I've helped someone (or at least thought I did), I've not received any hostile comments. Mostly I've been able to revive (using soulgems) some people and also when on my travels noticed a fight nearby, someone losing life fast, going for rescue and made the fellow adventurer live another day (or at least not needing to go for repairs that soon). I also normally check if there's some mutual intrest, I mean like continuing by grouping together. Many times not, but sometimes yes.
    It's also nice to get help from strangers. Sometimes it can be that they are just rushing, running past and fighting the same enemy as me because of the same path, but for example yesterday I had some big trouble with some ugly creepy big cockroach looking beings. I was bleeding a lot and in panic couldn't find any healing potions to use. Then "out of nowhere" came the blue lightning and a hero (couch, sorry:) came to resque me. The battle was quickly over and I survived. Hands still shaking I was able to /say Thank you!
    It was a short but nice reply the stranger gave: "np"
    ...and went on his way.

    Cheers...
    Edited by madfeldoreb17_ESO on May 15, 2014 4:24PM
  • Skulclutter
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    I'll pause to see if it looks like the player is in danger of dying first before I jump in. Less than about 25% health against mobs of more than one, I'll usually jump in to help. I appreciate other players doing the same, but they've usually left before I can /say thank you.

    I don't normally keep myself stocked up on soul gems, so I haven't rezzed anybody. I need to keep the few I have for recharges.
  • agegarton
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    I help whenever I can - especially when it is clear that a lower level player is getting beaten up. It's quite satisfying, the MMO version of a good deed for the day!

    When I have a bit of free time, I like to hang around world boss locations and offer to team up with players so we can go at the boss together when it regens. It's a great way to build a bit of a network (especially if you tend to be a solo player like me), and I think it helps build a "carry it forward" effect of casual good will within the game.

    It's great to see how many players go this way - makes Tamriel a nicer place for us all. :)
  • Ganacampo
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    I help people when I see they are in struggle.

    I don't revive them, since I usually don't even have enough soul gems for myself with me, but I have been revived once by a stranger.
  • devolutedub17_ESO
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    Depends on the character I am on, yes I am a roleplayer. My altmer, not a chance in daedra infested oblivion will she help you. My poor little Argonian will bend over backwards at great risk to herself to help you out. My other characters are generally somewhere in between, mostly if it's advantageuos to them will they intervene. My templar will spot a heal here and there or call down some retribution on a daedric enemy, she just can't help herself. Otherwise I mostly stay out of the way unless it appears to be going horribly bad.
  • rowdog
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    It's all about the health bar: if I notice a sliver of life and pack of monsters, I turn into a "streak of blue lightning" and rush in to try to save the day. I'm amazed at the number of people who thank me. I tend to do it less now after realizing I had saved some bots and, my latest pet peeve ... saving pets whose owners galloped off into the sunset long before I arrived.

    Getting helped, sure, I've had my butt saved several times. I regret that I've never said thanks but I really struggle with flipping back and forth to "chat mode" and by the time I get there, the hero is long gone. Thanks you heroes!

    Soul gems: no. You should be prepared to bring some or walk from the wayshrine. Well, maybe I'd rez a member if we're actually in a party but generally just no. Besides, most of the white crosses I see anymore seem to be dead bots.

    @madfeldoreb17_ESO I think that was my "np" because I remember thinking afterwards that "np" isn't really a proper response in ESO. Bankori? Sorc spamming elemental rings? If so, you deserve a proper "you're welcome!"
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