How many people are playing ESO?

mutharex

Ah there you are so we just need M*** and we have 70% of you in the same place. I have hundreds of posts, positive, helping, discussing. Then I have a few posts where I talk to you and your mates. Weird innit? Sure it's me? Coz others seem to tell you to FO as much as I do

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Can you guys go to PM with your stupid argument. This thread is about the number of people playing not your incessant whining at each other.

silent88b14_ESO

That's culture for you. No, if you wished to give feedback you would use the in-game F1 system and provide feedback. Loading up the forums with hypercritical vitriol isn't constructive feedback, it is showboating drama.

silent88b14_ESO

...said the little black pot...

devolutedub17_ESO

Ladies ladies, you're both beautiful. Now go make me a sammich.

demendred

Come on now guys, give each other a hug and a little tush grab. We're all friends here.

Woogawoman

Answer is: more than come to or post on the forums.

mutharex

demendred wrote: »

Come on now guys, give each other a hug and a little tush grab. We're all friends here.

I see you play AD, NA or EU?

demendred

mutharex wrote: »

demendred wrote: »

Come on now guys, give each other a hug and a little tush grab. We're all friends here.

I see you play AD, NA or EU?

NA.

mutharex

demendred wrote: »

mutharex wrote: »

demendred wrote: »

Come on now guys, give each other a hug and a little tush grab. We're all friends here.

I see you play AD, NA or EU?

NA.

Shame. Thanks

moXrox

wrlifeboil wrote: »

It's almost gut check time for eso with monthly subscriptions due in a few days for the early access players. So how many people are on eso? 1 million? 2 million? More? Less?

WoW reported they had 7.6 million subscribers on March 31 which was 0.2 million lower than on December 31. That is a pretty good number considering the Mist of Pandaria expansion is 18 months into a two year expansion pack cycle.

dont know..but maybe 500.000 at least ?

wrlifeboil

mutharex wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Does it really matter how many play OP? Are you looking for some sort of validation like you are popular?

The reason why experienced mmo'ers watch WoW subscriber numbers is to gauge how much money WoW makes. In the end, that will determine how much money Blizzard can put back into game development, network and customer support and still pay off their stockholders.

That's why size does matter.

Totally false, WoW with his supposed million of players doesn't put out much content between expansions (one the main complain in the WoW community) and considering the last 3 expansions, I don't know wtf they do with the money...

EVE on the other side, with merely 500K is always putting out free expansion and content

Size matters only in bed and if it isn't your gut....

Seriously, people who have not played at least three out of the past four years of WoW shouldn't be commenting about the game.

WoW intro's new raids and areas spread over the first 12 months of the expansion during Wrath, Cata, and MoP. In MoP, Garrosh and Timeless Isle are examples of this in MoP. All you have to do is look at the patch notes.

wrlifeboil

Woogawoman wrote: »

Answer is: more than come to or post on the forums.

Could be a perception thing but it seems like the forums are scrolling much slower than 2-3 weeks ago. It could be a good sign in that ZOS has fixed all the bugs in the game so fewer players are coming to the forums. It could be a bad sign in that players are not as enthusiastic about the game or are now ex-players .

Shimond

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Could be a perception thing but it seems like the forums are scrolling much slower than 2-3 weeks ago. It could be a good sign in that ZOS has fixed all the bugs in the game so fewer players are coming to the forums. It could be a bad sign in that players are not as enthusiastic about the game or are now ex-players .

Considering you do not need to be a subscriber to the game to post on the forums, any conclusions you are drawing from forum traffic is completely irrelevant to the health of the game.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Shimond wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Could be a perception thing but it seems like the forums are scrolling much slower than 2-3 weeks ago. It could be a good sign in that ZOS has fixed all the bugs in the game so fewer players are coming to the forums. It could be a bad sign in that players are not as enthusiastic about the game or are now ex-players .

Considering you do not need to be a subscriber to the game to post on the forums, any conclusions you are drawing from forum traffic is completely irrelevant to the health of the game.

You had to get an invite somehow tho. You cant just sign up for a forum account. I guess the people here who are not subbed are from beta?

Genomic

Game publishers these days are very hesitant in general to publish subs. The creator of MMOdata, which was always the best source for these figures, recently shut down his service due to exactly this.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Genomic wrote: »

Game publishers these days are very hesitant in general to publish subs. The creator of MMOdata, which was always the best source for these figures, recently shut down his service due to exactly this.

Well we do know they sold 300,000 physical copies because all that is tracked. Lilke I said earlier I think its safe to say 4 times that bought from zenimax. Unless zenimax tells us tho we have no way of knowing. I would say a safe bet is 1.5 million sold in the first month.

Humor

I'm going to take a wild shot in the dark here, and predict maybe... 400-450K players are still subscribed to ESO, this includes both NA/EU.

Why so low? Because people have simply gotten bored of the game, tired of all the bugs, and or just didn't enjoy the game, and moved onto something that interests them more.

Quite a few players actually moved from ESO to ArcheAge Alpha, and have spent $150 (Such as myself) to get into the Alpha, of course, I play both games ArcheAge, and this, and believe from the enjoyment I'm getting from both, it was worth the money.

I think anyone who believes there are over 500K subs to ESO still are in denial of how poor ESO seemed to have executed the launch/Early Access and so forth.

but as long as there are still players to party with and, everyone is not a familiar face, I'm satisfied.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Humor wrote: »

I'm going to take a wild shot in the dark here, and predict maybe... 400-450K players are still subscribed to ESO, this includes both NA/EU.

Why so low? Because people have simply gotten bored of the game, tired of all the bugs, and or just didn't enjoy the game, and moved onto something that interests them more.

Quite a few players actually moved from ESO to ArcheAge Alpha, and have spent $150 (Such as myself) to get into the Alpha, of course, I play both games ArcheAge, and this, and believe from the enjoyment I'm getting from both, it was worth the money.

I think anyone who believes there are over 500K subs to ESO still are in denial of how poor ESO seemed to have executed the launch/Early Access and so forth.

but as long as there are still players to party with and, everyone is not a familiar face, I'm satisfied.

I think you are crazy if you think 3/4 of the people who bought the game have already left. thats just silly.

Melian

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Woogawoman wrote: »

Answer is: more than come to or post on the forums.

Could be a perception thing but it seems like the forums are scrolling much slower than 2-3 weeks ago. It could be a good sign in that ZOS has fixed all the bugs in the game so fewer players are coming to the forums. It could be a bad sign in that players are not as enthusiastic about the game or are now ex-players .

Or maybe, like me, they're put off by the increasingly unpleasant tone on the forums.

mutharex

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Shimond wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Could be a perception thing but it seems like the forums are scrolling much slower than 2-3 weeks ago. It could be a good sign in that ZOS has fixed all the bugs in the game so fewer players are coming to the forums. It could be a bad sign in that players are not as enthusiastic about the game or are now ex-players .

Considering you do not need to be a subscriber to the game to post on the forums, any conclusions you are drawing from forum traffic is completely irrelevant to the health of the game.

You had to get an invite somehow tho. You cant just sign up for a forum account. I guess the people here who are not subbed are from beta?

Yes, accounts from beta are still active, I was discussing this last week with a beta player that hasn't bought the game (because he wants to get it on PS4) but can posts.

jircris11

Audigy wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

It's almost gut check time for eso with monthly subscriptions due in a few days for the early access players. So how many people are on eso? 1 million? 2 million? More? Less?

WoW reported they had 7.6 million subscribers on March 31 which was 0.2 million lower than on December 31. That is a pretty good number considering the Mist of Pandaria expansion is 18 months into a two year expansion pack cycle.

Only ZO knows this.

As for Blizz, there are many people with 5 or more accounts, almost everyone I know has at least two, plus the amount of Asians and bots so yes the numbers are very high, but they don't really translate into success or actual human players. I would guess there might be 2-3 Mio still playing WoW which is still a lot, but there are F2P´s with a lot more.

wait...what the hell are you doing on this forum? your using logic damn you! lol Ok joking aside that makes sense, never thought about it but i owned 3 accounts when i played WoW. i know some who own 5-7...no clue WHY they own so many but my friends are crazy.

Ashigaru

Thechemicals wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

I am not certain but i believe the asian market might not exist because of the look and setting of this game.

The game isnt allowed in CHina for one because of undead. The chinese have culture laws that prevent depicting honored ancesters in negative ways, ie skeletons/zombies. Zenimax would have to redesign the game for a chinese market.

So its the look and setting lol. What hapened with warcraft in china? Very popular+ has undead, will travel.

Was wondering same thing wow has undead.

Cudda

Under a million, nearly a thousand or so bot accounts.

Varivox9

The important thing isn't how many are playing right now, it's how many will be playing when the "free" time is up. I don't think ESO will be hurting too bad (even if I'm no fan of ESO), but I think with ArcheAge and Wildstar and, of course, the new WoW expansion, ESO devs might be a bit nervous right now.

Either way, I hope it doesn't go F2P.

Bhakura

Im schizophrenic, does that count for three?

Chryos

Count me in for one person.

Humor

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Humor wrote: »

I'm going to take a wild shot in the dark here, and predict maybe... 400-450K players are still subscribed to ESO, this includes both NA/EU.

Why so low? Because people have simply gotten bored of the game, tired of all the bugs, and or just didn't enjoy the game, and moved onto something that interests them more.

Quite a few players actually moved from ESO to ArcheAge Alpha, and have spent $150 (Such as myself) to get into the Alpha, of course, I play both games ArcheAge, and this, and believe from the enjoyment I'm getting from both, it was worth the money.

I think anyone who believes there are over 500K subs to ESO still are in denial of how poor ESO seemed to have executed the launch/Early Access and so forth.

but as long as there are still players to party with and, everyone is not a familiar face, I'm satisfied.

I think you are crazy if you think 3/4 of the people who bought the game have already left. thats just silly.

You're obviously blind to the cold hard truth then. The game has already renounced itself as probably the worst Mmorpg launch of all time by now. In all my years of Alpha, Beta testing, and playing pretty much any Mmorpg you can name out there, I've personally never seen any Beta, let alone a launch where you couldn't complete a quest.

For every one person you get on the forums who's stated they quit, and or cancelled their subscription, you probably get 100-200 more people who see their "valid" points. Not to mention we have all this game bashing with a herd of sheep larger than that who has actually purchased the game, saying they will NEVER buy the game, or that they quit that "trash" to move onto something new.

Of course again, this is just a prediction, there is no actual evidence supporting anyone's claims/predictions on this thread, it's minor speculation.

It's becoming harder, and harder to log on myself. While I do enjoy the game, and prayed for it's success, and still do, I'm finding myself with a lack of things to do. Yeah, I "could" boost my main from VR1-VR10, but... why...? I've already made alternative characters as well, that are very close to reaching VR 1 as well, and yes, I've read/listened through the stories/quests because it's TES at it's heart, or so that's my opinion. But have you seen how many people read how many people have stated the VR content is pretty much nothing more than a joke? For everyone person who claims this, there's another 100-200 people who leave the game.

Yes, the forums are a very minority group, but the fact is, 1 person here, isn't 1 person "out there". Everything adds up.

Quite a few people including myself seen FF 14 as the worst launch of all time, due to all the crash bugs, error bugs, etc, etc. But that is nothing in comparison to the amount of bugs within ESO as it's present state. Square Enix at least fixed the problems within a week and a half. Where as we're already a little more than a month into ESO, and everything is exactly how it's been since Closed Beta, and the PTS.

How many people do you actually think are going to continue paying for a game that's almost unplayable? I'd wager even now, more people are leaving than joining. Course, I did see a new player last night, that was refreshing, and gave me a little hope.

Also, we have to take into account while accounts are still "Active" or still have the subscription going, that doesn't literally mean they're playing the game. Such as myself, many more could have paid $80 for the 180 day subscription, just to get the hassle of worrying out of their heads. If they enjoy the game, then good, if they don't, and want to check in again every now and again, it's a wise decision they've subbed that long.

Anyways, this is just my opinion and prediction, I've seen many Mmorpg's in my day (since Ultima Online), and swap, and move to different Mmorpg's, Alpha, and Beta testing them all (giving feedback of course), to pretty much any "new" mmorpg out there. Currently doing Black Gold Online now, and ArcheAge, which doesn't really count since it's already been out for a while already in Korea, and Russia (just started).

One more thing before this wall of text ends. People have also become very disgruntled than Zenimax sent out surveys for every single Beta Test, and got the results of players feedbacks on the Beta forums and PTS, and not a thing has been changed.

I'll give Zenimax a break though, they're "new", and I'm still hoping for the best with my 180 day sub, but we'll see where that ends up in the future.

Alurria

I'll give Zenimax a break though, they're "new", and I'm still hoping for the best with my 180 day sub, but we'll see where that ends up in the future. [/quote]

Now that you have given them a break can I have what you're smoking? Doom and gloom wow, the truth is you don't know how many subs or sales of this game were sold. It's all conjecture mixed with opinion and prejudice. Plus exaggeration.

Lalai

Humor wrote: »

You're obviously blind to the cold hard truth then. The game has already renounced itself as probably the worst Mmorpg launch of all time by now. In all my years of Alpha, Beta testing, and playing pretty much any Mmorpg you can name out there, I've personally never seen any Beta, let alone a launch where you couldn't complete a quest.

Not in any way saying your subscription estimate is off (it's actually probably fairly accurate to assume a large percentage won't sub, whether the remaining is enough to keep the sub model is a different story).. but this launch by far was not the worst MMO launch of all time. Shadowbane went down frequently for days at a time, WoW did as well (and has tons of downtime, sometimes more than a day with patches still). FFXIV:ARR had character creation locked out on all servers for a few weeks after launch. Nevermind that their dungeon servers also crashed which prevented you from doing main story quests and actually even traveling anywhere at all to quest in the game.

This is by far not the worst MMO launch I've played in (that award goes to FFXIV:ARR).. it hasn't been perfect or anything, but saying it's the worst ever is a stretch. Unless you were saying it was taking back it's claim to being the worst MMORPG launch of all time, which is more along what renounced actually means.. but that context doesn't really fit.