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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

How many people are playing ESO?

wrlifeboil
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It's almost gut check time for eso with monthly subscriptions due in a few days for the early access players. So how many people are on eso? 1 million? 2 million? More? Less?

WoW reported they had 7.6 million subscribers on March 31 which was 0.2 million lower than on December 31. That is a pretty good number considering the Mist of Pandaria expansion is 18 months into a two year expansion pack cycle.
  • Kililin
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    Would like to know it to. Sub numbers that is, not box sales.
    looks like Box Sales have been good, but also no hard numbers available.
  • Shimond
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    Nobody here is going to give you anything close to accurate information on this. You'll have to wait for a press release/announcement from ZOS.
  • sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO
    Yeah I would also like to now figures. Population on EU server is ok, so if it is low it would not turn me off. Only cyrodiil seems to be empty. They should consider reduction of campaigns so there would be less of them but highly populated.
  • Lalai
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    Official numbers have not been released, so no one knows. The best people have are guessimates based off the number of people in PvP, or the people using something like Raptr.. and I would hardly consider those accurate.
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  • Khandi
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    I think ESO needs to publish their P & L for me to look at......
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  • Eris
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    There are 2,575,214 active members if you combine the NA mega-server and the EU mega-server user base. 87% of those people will remain after the game moves to subscription. The expansion and addition of Trials will gain a 13% bump in new users, mostly purchasing the imperial edition.

    You can take these numbers as absolutely true, and completely factual, as I am posting this information on the Internet, and I am always right (except where I am wrong).

    [Personal disclaimer: The preceding is information gained through a complex series of calculations with no real or factual data provided. The numbers were then randomly generated using a mind-seed, and publicly posted to create a sense of drama in the forums, there isn't enough drama in these forums. :)]
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  • EinionYrth
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    Eris wrote: »
    there isn't enough drama in these forums. :)]

    A fairly large number of drama queens, though.
  • wrlifeboil
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    Kililin wrote: »
    Would like to know it to. Sub numbers that is, not box sales.
    looks like Box Sales have been good, but also no hard numbers available.

    It is surprising that I don't see this type of thread in the eso forum. Mmo subscribers are usually more curious about the size of their gang.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12675578855

    Maybe it isn't that big a deal yet for eso since the game is mostly single player mode with the phasing design in pve and the zerg mode in pvp.
  • knaveofengland
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    nudge nudge wink wink millions say no more
  • Shimond
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    wrlifeboil wrote: »
    It is surprising that I don't see this type of thread in the eso forum. Mmo subscribers are usually more curious about the size of their gang.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12675578855

    Maybe it isn't that big a deal yet for eso since the game is mostly single player mode with the phasing design in pve and the zerg mode in pvp.

    Numbers would have to be reported for people to really talk about them.
  • timebandit_b16_ESO
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    Eris wrote: »
    there isn't enough drama in these forums. :)]

    A fairly large number of drama queens, though.

    And an even fairer amount of fanboys keeping the game in a state without progress.
  • Audigy
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    wrlifeboil wrote: »
    It's almost gut check time for eso with monthly subscriptions due in a few days for the early access players. So how many people are on eso? 1 million? 2 million? More? Less?

    WoW reported they had 7.6 million subscribers on March 31 which was 0.2 million lower than on December 31. That is a pretty good number considering the Mist of Pandaria expansion is 18 months into a two year expansion pack cycle.

    Only ZO knows this. ;)

    As for Blizz, there are many people with 5 or more accounts, almost everyone I know has at least two, plus the amount of Asians and bots so yes the numbers are very high, but they don't really translate into success or actual human players. I would guess there might be 2-3 Mio still playing WoW which is still a lot, but there are F2P´s with a lot more.
  • mutharex
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    Eris wrote: »
    there isn't enough drama in these forums. :)]

    A fairly large number of drama queens, though.

    And an even fairer amount of fanboys keeping the game in a state without progress.

    Could you give some examples of how the 'fanbois' are hurting the game?
    I am very curious of what goes on behind this kind of statements
  • Thechemicals
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    likely great sales and # bad sub cancells. The reviews are decent to good and the eso news have been failry positive. The game holds up well in pvp too which has been a positive look on all reviewers. I find pvp fun as well.

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  • wrlifeboil
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    Audigy wrote: »
    wrlifeboil wrote: »
    It's almost gut check time for eso with monthly subscriptions due in a few days for the early access players. So how many people are on eso? 1 million? 2 million? More? Less?

    WoW reported they had 7.6 million subscribers on March 31 which was 0.2 million lower than on December 31. That is a pretty good number considering the Mist of Pandaria expansion is 18 months into a two year expansion pack cycle.

    Only ZO knows this. ;)

    As for Blizz, there are many people with 5 or more accounts, almost everyone I know has at least two, plus the amount of Asians and bots so yes the numbers are very high, but they don't really translate into success or actual human players. I would guess there might be 2-3 Mio still playing WoW which is still a lot, but there are F2P´s with a lot more.

    I don't agree with you on that. Blizzard said in the past that Asian players were more than half of the subscriber base. So if that trend hasn't changed, there are around 2-3 million WoW players in North America/Latin America/Oceanic and Europe. The rest are in Asia, in China and South Korea. There is no WoW megaserver so the WoW player base is separated into different servers based on geography. European WoW players are on servers in Europe, the Chinese play on servers in China, and the Koreans play on servers in Korea.
  • Knovah
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    imho I do not believe they will drop those numbers till ps4 and xbox one subs are established. I am just guessing but I would want the largest data pool if I am going to announce a sub base and that would be with all 3 platforms.
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  • Audigy
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    wrlifeboil wrote: »
    Audigy wrote: »
    wrlifeboil wrote: »
    It's almost gut check time for eso with monthly subscriptions due in a few days for the early access players. So how many people are on eso? 1 million? 2 million? More? Less?

    WoW reported they had 7.6 million subscribers on March 31 which was 0.2 million lower than on December 31. That is a pretty good number considering the Mist of Pandaria expansion is 18 months into a two year expansion pack cycle.

    Only ZO knows this. ;)

    As for Blizz, there are many people with 5 or more accounts, almost everyone I know has at least two, plus the amount of Asians and bots so yes the numbers are very high, but they don't really translate into success or actual human players. I would guess there might be 2-3 Mio still playing WoW which is still a lot, but there are F2P´s with a lot more.

    I don't agree with you on that. Blizzard said in the past that Asian players were more than half of the subscriber base. So if that trend hasn't changed, there are around 2-3 million WoW players in North America/Latin America/Oceanic and Europe. The rest are in Asia, in China and South Korea. There is no WoW megaserver so the WoW player base is separated into different servers based on geography. European WoW players are on servers in Europe, the Chinese play on servers in China, and the Koreans play on servers in Korea.

    Oh I think we have a miss understanding or I wasn't clear :)

    Those 2-3 Mio are the people in Europe and NA or Oceanic regions as you said, I excluded the Asian population in my calculation :D If we however compare this to Vanilla and TBC then this is probably a huge loss to back then.

    So ya we actually agreed :D
    Edited by Audigy on May 7, 2014 3:06PM
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    Does it really matter how many play OP? Are you looking for some sort of validation like you are popular?
  • Thechemicals
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    I am not certain but i believe the asian market might not exist because of the look and setting of this game.

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  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    I am not certain but i believe the asian market might not exist because of the look and setting of this game.

    The game isnt allowed in CHina for one because of undead. The chinese have culture laws that prevent depicting honored ancesters in negative ways, ie skeletons/zombies. Zenimax would have to redesign the game for a chinese market.
  • wrlifeboil
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    Does it really matter how many play OP? Are you looking for some sort of validation like you are popular?

    The reason why experienced mmo'ers watch WoW subscriber numbers is to gauge how much money WoW makes. In the end, that will determine how much money Blizzard can put back into game development, network and customer support and still pay off their stockholders.

    That's why size does matter.
  • Xexpo
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    Eris wrote: »
    there isn't enough drama in these forums. :)]

    A fairly large number of drama queens, though.

    And an even fairer amount of fanboys keeping the game in a state without progress.
    ESO has been out for a month... a singular month, in that month they have made some obvious progress.
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  • Thechemicals
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    I am not certain but i believe the asian market might not exist because of the look and setting of this game.

    The game isnt allowed in CHina for one because of undead. The chinese have culture laws that prevent depicting honored ancesters in negative ways, ie skeletons/zombies. Zenimax would have to redesign the game for a chinese market.

    So its the look and setting lol. What hapened with warcraft in china? Very popular+ has undead, will travel.
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  • Shimond
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    And an even fairer amount of fanboys keeping the game in a state without progress.

    Wait are you calling the developers fanboys now? I think you give forum posters here entirely too much credit for the state of the game (whatever it is).
  • Caduryn
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    I guess.....1mio real Players and 8mio Bots, at this time.

  • Sarenia
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  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    I am not certain but i believe the asian market might not exist because of the look and setting of this game.

    The game isnt allowed in CHina for one because of undead. The chinese have culture laws that prevent depicting honored ancesters in negative ways, ie skeletons/zombies. Zenimax would have to redesign the game for a chinese market.

    So its the look and setting lol. What hapened with warcraft in china? Very popular+ has undead, will travel.

    From what Ive read WoW in china has NO undead in it.
  • devolutedub17_ESO
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    3; you, me and a bot program controlling everyone else :expressionless:
    Edited by devolutedub17_ESO on May 7, 2014 4:39PM
  • Alurria
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    Sarenia wrote: »
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  • 7788b14_ESO
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    It's really to early to tell. People who didn't sub will stop logging in a day or two. Till then you can't go by how many players are around you cause some still want toplay until their time runs out.
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