Eidetic memory bugged to uselessness | gamebreaking [Possible Spoilers]

Malediktus

Well dont forget there are probably different developers in charge for different areas of the game, so fixing this issue might not even affect fixing this quests.
Plus looking at
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/80362/in-progress-known-issues
and
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/87867/patch-notes-v-1-1-inc-craglorn-from-pts
they are also working on fixing many quests, thought I have no idea if your quest is amongst them, if not I would suggest to keep writing to the support. It took them 10 days of writing back and force to put my problem on the bug list

Skylias

Malediktus wrote: »

Well dont forget there are probably different developers in charge for different areas of the game, so fixing this issue might not even affect fixing this quests.
Plus looking at
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/80362/in-progress-known-issues
and
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/87867/patch-notes-v-1-1-inc-craglorn-from-pts
they are also working on fixing many quests, thought I have no idea if your quest is amongst them, if not I would suggest to keep writing to the support. It took them 10 days of writing back and force to put my problem on the bug list

It's the pure fact that this got a response and any dev's attention. I have contacted support sevvvvveral times. The quest is not listed to be fixed and many are stuck not being able to move forward to ANY content. Screw Craglorn. I can't get past my home faction.

Alas, I am done hijacking. I do hope that no limitations to you seeing all of Tamriel come *your* way with bugged MAIN quests. That would a TON of lorebooks you would not have access to.

Malediktus

Maybe I would be more angry about the bugged quests if I would level faster, but I spend several hours per day looking for recipes and motifs, so I only leveled from 38 to 40 in about in the last 11 days. I might be the slowest leveller in ESO

dobrt

It's great to see a response from ZOS, and it should give those who are presently upset with enough hope to pay at least their first month of subscription......."here's the carrot.".....wait why should we have to pay a subscription to see or experience something that we should have seen on release?????

IMO, I see there will always be major problems with this project, as the problems are typical of a MMO project. It's really unfortunate because this will be a black eye for the Elder Scrolls enterprise.

Until customers had enough and stop buying into the MMO genre as it is being presented now, we will continue to get the same responses, "will fix it after the next subscription period, or it's FTP just ignore it". It's been around 20 years of MMO and there are still the same problems in new titles.

starkerealm

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know we're looking into this now!

But, those of us who are having their gear slag in a couple hours and seeing 1000g repair bills at level 10...

Malediktus wrote: »

Skylias wrote: »

......Seriously? I am not able to progress in my faction's main story questline to open other faction territory to explore due to a bug (not able to target interactable) and THIS gets Gina's response? Reeeeallly?

I'm a lore player too.. but wow. This is priority? She even used the word "now". Holy mother of god..

I think a bug which potentially requires you to reroll is worse than a questblocker.

How about a bug that actually does make the game unplayable. I can't get to the quest blockers, or get presented with a reroll, because I can't keep my gear in working condition anymore...

Malediktus

Gear degrades with the amount of exp you earn (and deaths). So if you grind exp it degrades very fast. But you can easily play with 0 armor in open world pve, especially at lvl 10. Also I would suggest to never repair your armor as long as you outlevel it fast. Crafting a new set is usually way cheaper.

starkerealm

Malediktus wrote: »

Gear degrades with the amount of exp you earn (and deaths). So if you grind exp it degrades very fast. But you can easily play with 0 armor in open world pve, especially at lvl 10. Also I would suggest to never repair your armor as long as you outlevel it fast. Crafting a new set is usually way cheaper.

Uh-huh. No, that's not the behavior we're seeing, but thanks for playing. Turning in quests, or tracking down and cracking open chests does nothing to my armor level. Killing an enemy will reliably reduce my armor's condition beyond whatever their loot is worth.

Play naked you say? Well, uh, no, because that's not the game I want to play. Wasn't that your argument?

Malediktus

Well then dont disturb this thread if you have nothing useful to say.

starkerealm

Malediktus wrote: »

Well then dont disturb this thread if you have nothing useful to say.

Do as I say and not as I do, then?

Here's my question to you: Why is it the way you "want to play" automatically more valid than mine. The way you "want to play" doesn't involve core systems, so, it must be fixed NAO because it's "gamebreaking", but when anyone else has an issue, your response is, "you just don't understand the systems."

Or, more specifically:

Malediktus wrote: »

Gear decay is depending on your exp gain and on dieing.

Which, as many people have said, isn't the issue.

Lauranae

I know as you said that addon are not what should be used, BUT if you get the new Librarian it will recover all the books you have learned on your character, at least you could have a list to present to ZOS ... who knows.

(i just downladed it and all the books found by all my characters are showing up in a list)

If an addon is able to pull that out for any of our characters distinctly then i dont see why ZOS could not simply fix it internally

Malediktus

Well they cant fix your quest achievements either, like the 3 east march ones. They must be able to see that you completed them but they cant give you the achievement retroactively at this point. A friend is having that problem.
I can see this happening in this case, too. But since I wanted to roll a new character anyway now I could live with it as long as the bug gets fixed in a timely manner.

starkerealm

Malediktus wrote: »

Well they cant fix your quest achievements either, like the 3 east march ones. They must be able to see that you completed them but they cant give you the achievement retroactively at this point. A friend is having that problem.
I can see this happening in this case, too. But since I wanted to roll a new character anyway now I could live with it as long as the bug gets fixed in a timely manner.

If Fallout 3 and Skyrim are any indication, Bethesda likes to handle achievements as a one off "ping and you're done" call. So, even if the achievement is in a completed state, if the function didn't fire properly when you hit the target, the achievement doesn't unlock. If it's an account achievement, that's irritating, but not a huge issue, but on a character, when you can't meet the requirements again... Now, I am guessing, they could be doing this some other way.

But, yeah, I doubt CS will be able to retroactively apply achievements anytime soon. Sorry.

Mephane

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know we're looking into this now!

Please update us on the status of your query. In particular, I'd like to know whether only the data-gathering algorithm or the UI is bugged, or if the game actually forgot all those books, letters, notes etc. I have read. Because in the latter case, it's not even worth opening books for now since they might not get recorded anyway, but in the former case, I at least know that once the bug is fixed, I can read those books at a later point.

Malediktus

They dont know it yet as you can get from my support mail copy and paste

Malediktus

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know we're looking into this now!

It has been 3 days, any update on this? Will a fix be included in v1.1 or will we have to wait even longer for a fix? Will it be retroactive or require a new character?

elladora

I am a completionist too, I like to explore everywhere, collect everything, get achievements. I know this playstyle isn't for everyone and that there are higher priority bugs that affect more players but I really hope this gets fixed. A number of posts have said they can not retroactively award achievements. I had been hoping that after fixing some of the more pressing issues a future patch would properly award all these bugged achievements. Apart from Eidetic memory there are 3 Stormhaven quest achievements and about 10 quest completions in Bangkorai that don't seem to have been counted. Also for completion I'd like to see the broken world bosses fixed.

(IMO highest priority fixes are ones that block progression or play altogether followed by other broken quests and broken player skills (as in not working as described or intended rather than balance issues). I'm glad to see that soon guild functions/ guild store UI will be patched. Issues with trade/the economy should also be high priority)

Malediktus

I doubt the same people who work on fixing quests work on bugs like these. In large companies developers usually have very specific jobs where they are in charge for.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Mix

Agreed Malediktus, probably different people/teams. For everyone complaining that their bug isn't being addressed, please make your own thread, contact customer support, GET your bug added to the list. Also, if you have trouble with a quest - google is your friend, I have found some clever workarounds - specifically with the cold fire coldharbor quest - that work to complete the quest.

I am a total completionist and the fact that i may not be able to get some of these books on my current main irks me. Also, not being able to fix achievements scares me - i have those 3 missing eastmarch achieves too...

Thanks Malediktus for your hard work and determination to get this bug added to the master list!

Arwyn

Just adding to this... Its bugged..

Malediktus

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know we're looking into this now!

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ It has been about 6 days now (I dont know what "now" means where you live, but here it means "just in the moment"), any update on this? Will a fix be included in v1.1 or will we have to wait even longer for a fix? Will it be retroactive or require a new character?

Ehurbaen

I'm a type of completionist myself, and I thought that eidetic memory was working after I got it. Every now and then I looked at my lists it showed books read and completed, so naturally as I leveled I was reading every book and note I came across in every dungeon and place I went to up to VR10, expecting it to fill out. Of course, everything shows 0/X for me now, and I am quite upset. I've invested so much time into this game now if they can't fix something like this without having to restart, I don't even know. This combined with the bugged achievements and talk of not actually being able to fix them (having to reroll) would *** a lot of people off.

I had actually thought this might be the case from the start, and for achievements that I've been awarded completion but not a skill point, or have done quests and not been rewarded... Will they wipe the achievements/reset quests (and the timestamp along with that!) or just find a way to bestow the rewards to us? This is affecting many players especially the achievements which could be considered progression blocking if you are unable to get those skill points and you need them. If it is the former and they don't have what players have read on save to re-fill EM, I don't think I'll be playing anymore. This is pathetic, and might be a silly reason to some people but I think many people play games to completion for the achievements and what not. I'm sure that it is obviously more complicated on ZOS' end, but a simple achievement system and UI not working is scandalous. All of this combined with falsely being banned and all the other bugs... yeah.

edit: If you're going to say it's my fault for continuing on to VR10 when "I knew that this existed"... just don't. I want to enjoy the "content" at endgame and do dungeons just as much as the next guy. An entire feature of the game not working is not my fault at all.

That's my rant. This is the forums, it's a commonplace for QQ.

Malediktus

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know we're looking into this now!

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ It has been about a week now (I dont know what "now" means where you live, but here it means "just in the moment"), any update on this? Will a fix be included in v1.1 or will we have to wait even longer for a fix? Will it be retroactive or require a new character?

Malediktus

Still bugged in 1.07

Malediktus

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ I wish more communication from your company regarding progress on fixing various bugs. My free 5 days run out in 2 days and I am still on the fence of leaving this game. So many bugs, so many exploits, and worst of all only bare minimum communication with corporate speak.

8 days you told me you would look into this now (not soon or one day), and still no update whatsoever. I still want to know if I can expect a retroactive fix (so I can finnaly start the new character I planned to start ~10 days ago), but there is absolutly no update on this. If it takes a long time until its fixed, fine, but say so, so I can cancel subscription and come back at a later point instead of making me look at the patchnotes, this thread, and my support ticket every day in anticipation for an update on the situation.

Malediktus

10 days... no update

MorHawk

Holy frig man. Seven posts saying nothing but 'pay attention to me', five of them with dev tags. For the love of forum spam, enough already. They're aware, they're working on it, and it'll be in the patch notes when it's done. This constant tagging does nothing productive, and actually wastes their time.

Malediktus

Well my sub runs out on 9th may. I dont see any reason to continue it although I like the game this bug is unacceptable to me. Even worse no updates on this problem although they said they will look into it NOW - 10 days ago. I dont see whats so hard to inform players about bug fixing progress. This is not only on my problem, but wherever I look on the forums they never communicate their progress properly. I am expecting more communication that corporate speak every now and then from a buy and sub to play game.

Coolits

It's a pretty crummy bug but as long as we get credit for everything retrospectively I'm not too fussed yet.

crush83

Love the fanboys who insist on visiting every issue thread and basically telling the OP that their problems are insignificant and that the game is great.

They are going to be having a ton of fun playing with each other after everyone else is gone. All 50 of them.

Malediktus

crush83 wrote: »

Love the fanboys who insist on visiting every issue thread and basically telling the OP that their problems are insignificant and that the game is great.

They are going to be having a ton of fun playing with each other after everyone else is gone. All 50 of them.

Yes, I believe I am the last one of my group of friends who are still trying to play TESO. The others quit already for various reasons. Its sad really.
I can definatly see people quit left and right based on the activity in my 5 - 500 men trading guilds and friend list.