TOP TEN - Crowd Pleasing Fixes (we'd love to see)
This may not be everyone's list, but based on recent threads, and some personal bias, I've compiled a top ten patch list that I think would be real crowd pleasers. Feel free to post your top ten if you disagree!
1. The Bank
The infamous resetting bank, and the many lost items and gold. We'd love it if the expansions we buy for the bank stay, and the items we put in there are safe. We notice this thread says the fix "Will not be retroactive". As many of us have been promised in no uncertain terms that there will be restitution, we hope you just mean the fix won't include the restitution, but that will still come later.
*UPDATE
Patch 1.04 - April 18th says this is now fixed. Who wants to be the test guinea pig?
April 19 - I was contacted by a GM who restored my lost gold from the bank glitch. Thank you! He said they feel the glitch is now fixed and it's safe to re-buy the upgrades as per yesterday's patch 1.04
2. The Launcher
In the last couple of patches, thousands of people were locked out and/or forced to completely reload the game client, due to launcher errors, and some still are. Whether losing track of which update is being patched, breaking during the repair process, or the now infamous 209 errors, we'd love it if the launcher became robust enough to patch properly.
*UPDATE
Patch 1.04 - April 18th didn't seem to have any major launcher issues. Well done!
3. The Main Story Line Quests
Are sadly still broken in many places, and frustrating the heck out of people. There are quests you can safely ignore for a while, but these are not them.
For example: Message Across Tamriel or Reaper's March
*UPDATE - April 21
Patch 1.05 - Appears to address a LOT of this. Any comments from players? Are there still some outstanding main storyline quests not working?
4. The Gold Seller Spam
We're getting spammed all day, every day, in every channel, through false guild invites, in game mail, and of course constantly in the chat. You have said you are serious about fixing it here, but we are all wondering why you haven't just appointed mods to real time ban them, as it happens, because we think this would be way more efficient than creating millions of tickets with player reports. One day maybe you come up with a filter that blocks them, but for now, why not hit them where it hurts and rapidly ban those accounts over and over and over, until they give up! (PS We'd also love to be able to greatly increase our ignore limit from 100, to say 1000, if that is possible without massively lagging the game. 100 is not nearly enough)
PS How hard would it be for you to stop them posting in rainbow colors? In fact, stop EVERYONE from posting in rainbow colors??? Must I go blind in addition to being driven mad?
5. The Teleporting-Wall Hacking-Invisible-Bot-Cheaters
You have simply got to get a handle on this right now, as it destroys major aspects of the game. It's already affecting Resource Collection, PvP and causing you to expend resources re-working your end dungeon Bosses, which were frankly, the only good thing about your public dungeons. (that you could hang there for a few bosses and collect some Soul Shards, Health Pots or Weapons/Armor to deconstruct or sell). Instead of stopping the bots, you're allowing them to force you to change something that legitimate players enjoyed. We think that sucks, and hope you come up with a better solution.
Multi-Boxing, Gold Account/Farmer Bots
ZOS Thread - Taking action against Cheaters
6. Falling Through The World
By now we all (mostly) know we can port out or /stuck to get out, most of the time, but we hope it's a priority to stop the falling from happening, as it's a real buzz kill in terms of immersion.
7. The Fleecing of the Sheep (Vampire/Werewolf Quests)
We should not be required to pay an enormous fee to another player, in order to become a werewolf or vampire, just because we chose not to speed level and participate in monopolizing the spawns. See this thread.
Note: Once this practice is stopped, it would be great if both the Vampire and Werewolf skill trees worked. They are massively broken.
8. The Guild Store
Sucks. Well let me elaborate on that and say, it sucks in the worst possible way you can possibly suck. It's just plain awful. It's universally hated. See this thread, and this one. Now you can either A) Fix the search interface so that item searches can become FAR more specific, and ideally be done by text search as well or;
Publicly acknowledge that this is the most hated trading solution of all time, and seek player input as to what should replace it.
9. Inventory Management (is NOT so fun)
Right now your login servers are getting an enormous amount of traffic from endless relogins, as crafters like me, have been forced, by terribly limited bank space, and the resetting bank bug, to create multiple "mule" characters for all their stuff. On each of these "mules", we have to get very specific about what we store, to maximize the storage space. So when our adventurers return to the bank with a variety of loot, many of them are then doing a 5 to 7 mule login/logout merry go round to shuffle said loot to mule storage. In addition, some are using the email a friend solution, heavily clogging up your email database with gazillions of emails, specifically being used as temporary 30 day storage.
Until a better solution is found, it would be great if ALL character inventories were accessible at the bank, by any character without relogging multiple times, and if gold worked like the rest of your materials, where if we have it in the bank, any character can spend/use from the pool while out adventuring. Transferring gold to multiple characters, every 20 hours or so, just to upgrade my 6 horses, is REALLY NOT FUN.
10. Buffs, Debuffs, Mana & Stamina
We really don't understand why you don't want us to be able to see our buffs, debuffs, mana and stamina for ourselves, and for our group, in real time, during combat. Surely you don't actually expect us to be able to siphon through the graphic effects on characters in a major battle that ends up looking like chaos most all of the time? Surely it's reasonable to know when your healer is running out of mana, so you can pop a health potion? Show us that your really do love groups and want to encourage grouping and return this rather rudimentary and required group information.
11. "Neither a Borrower Nor a Lender Be!" (ok it's now a top 11)
Please add new voiceover options to allow the disabling and/or lowering of volume specific to BANKERS and GENERAL AREA NPC COMMENTS. It was really nice of them to tell us their little stories, and even sing our praises, but now we just want to rip out their vocal chords and boil them in oil. Speaking for myself, there is something about that Daggerfall Banker Lady, who says "Have you ever heard the saying, neither a borrower or a lender be" that makes me want to tear my ears off. That voice, needs to go... so please make a slider/checkbox, even a registry patch.. I'll take anything... just let me QUIET THE VOICES!!!!
*UPDATE - April 18, 2014
Borrower and Lender Mod - A Possible fix? (I haven't tested it yet)
1. The Bank
The infamous resetting bank, and the many lost items and gold. We'd love it if the expansions we buy for the bank stay, and the items we put in there are safe. We notice this thread says the fix "Will not be retroactive". As many of us have been promised in no uncertain terms that there will be restitution, we hope you just mean the fix won't include the restitution, but that will still come later.
*UPDATE
Patch 1.04 - April 18th says this is now fixed. Who wants to be the test guinea pig?
April 19 - I was contacted by a GM who restored my lost gold from the bank glitch. Thank you! He said they feel the glitch is now fixed and it's safe to re-buy the upgrades as per yesterday's patch 1.04
2. The Launcher
In the last couple of patches, thousands of people were locked out and/or forced to completely reload the game client, due to launcher errors, and some still are. Whether losing track of which update is being patched, breaking during the repair process, or the now infamous 209 errors, we'd love it if the launcher became robust enough to patch properly.
*UPDATE
Patch 1.04 - April 18th didn't seem to have any major launcher issues. Well done!
3. The Main Story Line Quests
Are sadly still broken in many places, and frustrating the heck out of people. There are quests you can safely ignore for a while, but these are not them.
For example: Message Across Tamriel or Reaper's March
*UPDATE - April 21
Patch 1.05 - Appears to address a LOT of this. Any comments from players? Are there still some outstanding main storyline quests not working?
4. The Gold Seller Spam
We're getting spammed all day, every day, in every channel, through false guild invites, in game mail, and of course constantly in the chat. You have said you are serious about fixing it here, but we are all wondering why you haven't just appointed mods to real time ban them, as it happens, because we think this would be way more efficient than creating millions of tickets with player reports. One day maybe you come up with a filter that blocks them, but for now, why not hit them where it hurts and rapidly ban those accounts over and over and over, until they give up! (PS We'd also love to be able to greatly increase our ignore limit from 100, to say 1000, if that is possible without massively lagging the game. 100 is not nearly enough)
PS How hard would it be for you to stop them posting in rainbow colors? In fact, stop EVERYONE from posting in rainbow colors??? Must I go blind in addition to being driven mad?
5. The Teleporting-Wall Hacking-Invisible-Bot-Cheaters
You have simply got to get a handle on this right now, as it destroys major aspects of the game. It's already affecting Resource Collection, PvP and causing you to expend resources re-working your end dungeon Bosses, which were frankly, the only good thing about your public dungeons. (that you could hang there for a few bosses and collect some Soul Shards, Health Pots or Weapons/Armor to deconstruct or sell). Instead of stopping the bots, you're allowing them to force you to change something that legitimate players enjoyed. We think that sucks, and hope you come up with a better solution.
Multi-Boxing, Gold Account/Farmer Bots
ZOS Thread - Taking action against Cheaters
6. Falling Through The World
By now we all (mostly) know we can port out or /stuck to get out, most of the time, but we hope it's a priority to stop the falling from happening, as it's a real buzz kill in terms of immersion.
7. The Fleecing of the Sheep (Vampire/Werewolf Quests)
We should not be required to pay an enormous fee to another player, in order to become a werewolf or vampire, just because we chose not to speed level and participate in monopolizing the spawns. See this thread.
Note: Once this practice is stopped, it would be great if both the Vampire and Werewolf skill trees worked. They are massively broken.
8. The Guild Store
Sucks. Well let me elaborate on that and say, it sucks in the worst possible way you can possibly suck. It's just plain awful. It's universally hated. See this thread, and this one. Now you can either A) Fix the search interface so that item searches can become FAR more specific, and ideally be done by text search as well or;
Publicly acknowledge that this is the most hated trading solution of all time, and seek player input as to what should replace it.9. Inventory Management (is NOT so fun)
Right now your login servers are getting an enormous amount of traffic from endless relogins, as crafters like me, have been forced, by terribly limited bank space, and the resetting bank bug, to create multiple "mule" characters for all their stuff. On each of these "mules", we have to get very specific about what we store, to maximize the storage space. So when our adventurers return to the bank with a variety of loot, many of them are then doing a 5 to 7 mule login/logout merry go round to shuffle said loot to mule storage. In addition, some are using the email a friend solution, heavily clogging up your email database with gazillions of emails, specifically being used as temporary 30 day storage.
Until a better solution is found, it would be great if ALL character inventories were accessible at the bank, by any character without relogging multiple times, and if gold worked like the rest of your materials, where if we have it in the bank, any character can spend/use from the pool while out adventuring. Transferring gold to multiple characters, every 20 hours or so, just to upgrade my 6 horses, is REALLY NOT FUN.
10. Buffs, Debuffs, Mana & Stamina
We really don't understand why you don't want us to be able to see our buffs, debuffs, mana and stamina for ourselves, and for our group, in real time, during combat. Surely you don't actually expect us to be able to siphon through the graphic effects on characters in a major battle that ends up looking like chaos most all of the time? Surely it's reasonable to know when your healer is running out of mana, so you can pop a health potion? Show us that your really do love groups and want to encourage grouping and return this rather rudimentary and required group information.
11. "Neither a Borrower Nor a Lender Be!" (ok it's now a top 11)
Please add new voiceover options to allow the disabling and/or lowering of volume specific to BANKERS and GENERAL AREA NPC COMMENTS. It was really nice of them to tell us their little stories, and even sing our praises, but now we just want to rip out their vocal chords and boil them in oil. Speaking for myself, there is something about that Daggerfall Banker Lady, who says "Have you ever heard the saying, neither a borrower or a lender be" that makes me want to tear my ears off. That voice, needs to go... so please make a slider/checkbox, even a registry patch.. I'll take anything... just let me QUIET THE VOICES!!!!
*UPDATE - April 18, 2014
Borrower and Lender Mod - A Possible fix? (I haven't tested it yet)
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SafeForSure✭✭Make a better way of mass reporting.Edited by SafeForSure on April 17, 2014 10:17AM1 -
SafeForSure wrote: »You forget ww/vamp campers extorting people for gold.
Umm... did you read it? Number 6? Or do you mean some other form of extortion I've not addressed?
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Shaie✭✭✭Great list, I agree wholeheartedly! Also, the #10 for me is the woman in Mistral with the REAL. LIVE. DOG! If you'll excuse me, I need to let it out of the cage so it can just tear out her throat & be done with it.
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SafeForSure✭✭
yeah removed the post cause its tolong to explain but you also have quest mob extortion now on some quest bosses (george.smithb16_ESO wrote: »SafeForSure wrote: »You forget ww/vamp campers extorting people for gold.
Umm... did you read it? Number 6? Or do you mean some other form of extortion I've not addressed?
Edited by SafeForSure on April 17, 2014 10:22AM2 -
GossiTheDog✭✭✭✭✭There's a mod somebody made for Skyrim which stops NPCs talking when you walk near them. It's the best mod in the game.1 -
GossiTheDog wrote: »There's a mod somebody made for Skyrim which stops NPCs talking when you walk near them. It's the best mod in the game.
Mind posting a link? Sounds great!
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GossiTheDog✭✭✭✭✭george.smithb16_ESO wrote: »GossiTheDog wrote: »There's a mod somebody made for Skyrim which stops NPCs talking when you walk near them. It's the best mod in the game.
Mind posting a link? Sounds great!
Here you go: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/746/?
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✭I was going to write a comment along the lines of "we? please don't presume to speak for me" .. however, in this case I won't, I agree totally.
Especially 10, whichever ZOS developer put that in needs re-training on how NOT to ***-off the majority of your customers without really trying.
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GossiTheDog✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, I actually came into the thread to tell off the OP for using "we", because I HATE people trying to speak for the community... But in this case, the list is actually sensible and measured changes.2
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I was going to write a comment along the lines of "we? please don't presume to speak for me" .. however, in this case I won't, I agree totally.
Appreciate that. I used "we" to elude to the fact that in creating the list, I reviewed a lot of threads, and tried, in my very unscientific way, to distill it down to 10 items that seemed to be universally agreed on.
Of course there will always be that fringe element ;-)
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biggest issue IMO is the bank bug. Thats serious and needs to be fixed NOW. And our items/gold/slots/skill points restored. Most o those other ones suck, but this is keeping people from using their bank at all/playing the game. I know im about to just start a new character since i cant access my bank or play my 2 main ones right now due to this bug
I have to say i disagree with 8. I agree inv management is a joke but accessing all chars inventories isn't the solution. The solution would be to have a friggin bank that works right and has adequate space. the default 60 slots is a joke for a shared bank when you take into account mats. I think a far better solution would be a combo of reducing expansion costs, and most importantly, having crafting mats seperate. Something along the lines of what GW2 does. If you stop and figure you store all your crafting mats in the bank.. assume you do every profession across your various characters, thats a LOT of bank space with just materials. The current system does not work for that at allEdited by kenshindononub18_ESO on April 17, 2014 10:30AM4 -
SafeForSure wrote: »Make a better way of mass reporting.
yeah we need to get the rats like this guy out of the game lol... But seriously though you wont see any fixes like that, eso will be free to play in six months to a year.
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Seroczynski✭✭✭I agree with everything except for number 8. People just need to learn to manage their inventory space.“To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.” ― Homer J. Simpson1 -
Clotholachesisatropos666b14_ESO wrote: »But seriously though you wont see any fixes like that, eso will be free to play in six months to a year.
Pessimist! LOL
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blackevil86✭✭ZOS don't even read the forums, so its pointless to make any complaints/suggestions. just wait a week or so for an official statement of something irrelevant and in such a way that it will get misunderstood and only cause more unhappy customers.0 -
blackevil86 wrote: »ZOS don't even read the forums, so its pointless to make any complaints/suggestions. just wait a week or so for an official statement
of something irrelevant and in such a way that it will get misunderstood and only cause more unhappy customers.
Sounds like you could really use some "crowd pleasin"
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GossiTheDog✭✭✭✭✭ZOS do read the forums, as they sometimes post here, and the little yellow boxes that appear under posts saying it's been logged with Customer Services is because mods have opened a ticket and flagged the forum post.0
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✭george.smithb16_ESO wrote: »"Have you ever heard the saying, neither a borrower or a lender be?"
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I agree with the OP, it is an awesome post summarises the main points that are alienating the player base, despite trolling by ZOS supported fanbois.
It is so sad that ZOS chooses to use the iron fist via their EULA and oppressive forum moderation to remove valid opinion. It is clear that we are not important to them. They don't care and we are the mug PC gamers that are paying to beta test their crap, so it will be perfect for the larger market of the gaming consul.
Shame on you ZOS and let it be known we don't forgive or forget.1 -
Jake71887✭✭✭Some of these are easily fixed with mods, just sad that they released with such poorly designed systems.0 -
I don't give a *** about people camping mobs and such. I want bug fixes first and foremost. Nightblade and werewolf both suffer from varying degrees of brokeness/bugs. I can't speak for vampire, but if it's anything like werewolf I can bet it's in dire need of some fixing too.0 -
uzul77Soul ShrivenTotally agree with OP. Whether i will or will not cancel subscription depends on this list being fixed till the end of the 30-day-free playtime period. AT LEAST 1, 4 and 5, those for me are the crucial fixes (bank, bots and teleporting).0
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Anoteros✭✭✭✭1. Nameplates.
2. separate banks
3. horses to be tradeable between alts
4. Intuitive player interaction (click to tagret or something, mousing over when somebody is moving is nigh impossible)
5. Lose the 5 guild crap and introduce a bloody Auction House.2 -
GossiTheDog✭✭✭✭✭1. Nameplates.
2. separate banks
3. horses to be tradeable between alts
4. Intuitive player interaction (click to tagret or something, mousing over when somebody is moving is nigh impossible)
5. Lose the 5 guild crap and introduce a bloody Auction House.
I would prefer they do none of that.
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OP (apparently the '.' in your name makes it impossible to tag you)
One of the few posts I actually think successfully summarizes the core issues facing the game right now with out the hyperbolic doom-crying. Although I feel like 5b (you have 2 #5s), 9, and 10 are lesser issues. The falling thing isn't game breaking but some people are prone to it. I feel like 9 could be fixed somewhat by simply displaying all 3 bars in 4 player parties. Finally, more dialogue options and variance for NPC comments would alleviate the problem. I don't really know if 8 is as big an issue as people make it out to be, I have to use a mule, but that is partially so if I get hit with the bank bug I don't lose anything, small changes like vanity items not taking up space and possibly a fix to guild banks since only small guilds can really use them properly would fix many issues players are having (and the inability to use guild banks is also partially the fault of the player base). But really one of the better lists, it could also be useful to tag a ZOS member.
I get tired of people replying that they never read these, and then I notice nobody bothered to ever tag a ZOS member. Not to mention the customer support referrals or direct contact (I got my forum name changed). Or the fact that they are introducing an ill-advised update because a bunch of people raged about farming.Edited by Saint_JiubB14_ESO on April 17, 2014 1:00PMYou have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
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psufan5✭✭✭✭Ill add to this:
1. Nightblade vampire passives not working
2. Nightblade powers not working right
3. Vampire supercharge drops all aggro and resets whatever you are fighting
4. Vampire poison mist ticking half of what it should
5. No true full screen yet
6. No FOV slider
7. ???
8. Profit
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controolsSoul Shriventhese are DEF 10 things that would make me keep me subcribing to the game if they get fixed right i dont know why i keep playing... maybe its just the stubbern Oblivion fanboy in me that keeps prying something good will happen....0
