I KNOW FOR A FACT that I'm not the only one disapointed by daily rewards !

Elsonso

SilverBride wrote: »

Tariq9898 wrote: »

I need my tri pots

I use those a lot, too.

The tri-pots and the chicken dinner have pretty much completely replaced any need to craft suitable replacements.

barney2525

I'm always amazed when people complain " The FREE stuff you are giving out isn't good enough ! "

You don't need to spend any money whatsoever to get the login daily. ESO+ is not required.

And it's just not good enough. Apparently there is a requirement someplace that Free stuff has a minimum value requirement, despite the Fact that everyone values things differently.

OnnuK

I've been playing Elder Scrolls Online less and less lately. This is the first month that I haven't logged in at all, and I think that's a sign I'm starting to move on. I stopped doing the daily endeavors last month, and I'm not even bothering to check the daily login rewards anymore. :-(

MincMincMinc

IMO we shouldn't have daily rewards at all. Login rewards are just a shill way of inflating corporate player numbers.

As a game we are better off incentivizing actual gameplay and rewarding it. Like make PvP end of campaign rewards more important. Or bg leaderboard rewards. Or arena rewards. Or trials. etc. You could structure the whole game's rewards such that you cross pollinate pve and pvp players.

For a 10 year player you should understand that if they gave out free, no effort collectibles every day, there would be no reason to play the game in a few months. The daily free logins should only be simple collectibles that boost new player experience.

Destai

My login routine has been very light lately and this just makes it easier to take a full break. I've been pretty much doing Endeavors and crafting dailies - not fun stuff.

AnduinTryggva

darkriketz wrote: »

Imagine, you're playing a ten-years-old MMORPG, it has been created, developped and nourished through the years by passionate developpers and designers who have created dozens of hundreds of collectibles, outfits, pets, mounts, emojis, furnishings, even houses, items that exist purely for aesthetics and serve no purpose in the game that simply giving players new possibilites to dress their characters, furnish their houses, express their personality and love for the lore, even express their own creativity by giving their own characters a specific lore that no other player can share, because it's simply the product of their individual imagination...
Imagine that, among these hundreds, thousands of purely aesthetic items and collectibles, most have been released only during limited-time windows of opportunity, there was a time to get them, then this time was over...

And then you look at the monthly calendar of daily rewards...

...and you see absolutely NONE of these collectibles. Just consumables. Items that serve no purpose but boost the characters progress in very specific ways and, for most players, these items aren't even relevant or useful because they aren't needed anymore.
You already have researched every trait of every item with your main crafting character and you're not planning on creating more than one master crafter ? Hurray, here are some amazing account-bound research scrolls that you'll be able to destroy just a moment after getting them ! Your main character is a master alchemist and you use only potions that you've created yourself for your own specific needs ? Hey, look, some account-bound generic potions that you'll never use and that will just take some room in your bank or house chests ! AWE-SOME ! ♥

Seriously, Zenimax, Bethesda, and whoever is in charge. You have HUNDREDS of possibilities and collectibles. There are NOT hundreds of months in a year, just twelve. Even if we imagine that you offer, say, three time-limited collectibles each month, that only makes 36. What are the odds that every player on TESO already has unlocked these specific 36 collectibles ? Why are you, again again, month after month, refusing us the slightest waw effect ? What exactly is the strategy here ? I want to understand. Please.
Even if your answer is "p*** off we're not giving collectibles for free", just let me understand the process of decision that leads to... that kind of calendar. Because right now all I see is just an random refusal to give players small pleasures and trinkets.

I surely need the 137th xp-scroll...

Seaviy

MincMincMinc wrote: »

IMO we shouldn't have daily rewards at all. Login rewards are just a shill way of inflating corporate player numbers.

As a game we are better off incentivizing actual gameplay and rewarding it. Like make PvP end of campaign rewards more important. Or bg leaderboard rewards. Or arena rewards. Or trials. etc. You could structure the whole game's rewards such that you cross pollinate pve and pvp players.

For a 10 year player you should understand that if they gave out free, no effort collectibles every day, there would be no reason to play the game in a few months. The daily free logins should only be simple collectibles that boost new player experience.

I completely agree. The more you constantly give people something for free or with minimal effort, the less desire they have to actually play the game. And receiving such rewards becomes a bad habit.
I have such a stockpile of tri-pots in my bank that I have no need to buy potions from guild traders for pvp

Carcamongus

The 10 year celebration is over and we ought to have known those special goodies, which included crates and even a notable house, wouldn't become the standard fare for daily rewards. I'm not disappointed by September's rewards, though I do agree it's unfortunate for the tri-pots to be missing.

lillybit

As a long term player on playstation, I've always been fairly indifferent to the daily rewards. I usually most look forward to the Tel Var and AP at the end of the month tho some of the cosmetics we've got over the years have been nice. I've saved enough research scrolls that it should be really quick when/if we get a new character slot. About the only things I regularly destroy are the pots/poisons but it's not exactly a huge chore.

I've recently started again on PC and looked at them a different way. Crown food, yes! I don't have many decent recipes and the ingredients I find are patchy - how is it even possible to be low on fish? Research scrolls are wonderful. It's so slow and I just want to be able to craft half decent gear! Even the 2k gold I barely register on PS is a major boost as a new player still trying to upgrade my bank.

So as a veteran player I'll gladly accept the 'trash' rewards because they're so much help to new players - and frankly we should be doing everything we can to encourage new players, especially on console!

Crimsonwolf666

Why September, WHY? I thought you were cool! Saving all the cool shite for October huh? Did October bully you? You can tell me September. I can keep a secret on this forum.

Pops_ND_Irish

Seems fine to me

miloflipper

I am an old player (I mean I've been playing a long time). ZOS have given away pets, mounts, DLCs as daily rewards in the past, that was exciting for sure but if you don't have dry months you won't appreciate the give a ways.

The more concerning thing is that the quest rewards are bad. Recently I went back to doing all the old content on my relatively clueless Arcanist and was so shocked at how uninspiring the rewards are - to the point where I stopped looking to see what I got at quest hand ins. Green and blue items destined to be collected, logged and deconstructed as a matter of course. Gold earned for questing is so low that at the end of playing for a couple of hours you don't even look at your total to see how much you made as it doesn't even make an impression. Weapons, armor, poisons, potions, recipes... nothing even remotely exciting as a quest reward. I am grateful for the junk filter as I just sell or deconstruct the whole lot ... THE WHOLE LOT at the end of a session.

I might be spoiled, but even as a new player I remember thinking "should I keep this or wait until I get to level 50". I swapped out armor only a handful of times because my stats didn't matter, as the content was reasonably easy for a new player. My point is not the make the content harder but the make the armor and weapons more IMPACTFUL, I want to feel the weight of my upgrade, the difference it makes. At the moment only min/max'ers are getting the joy of balancing a build to feel a new high DPS.

As an old player (in game hours) I feel like I am coming to the end of the ESO adventure, there is little out there which thrills me. I have a couple of zones left to explore and then I will probably move on, I'm not sure - I changed my subscription from yearly to monthly in anticipation.

Milo

lillybit

miloflipper wrote: »

The more concerning thing is that the quest rewards are bad. Recently I went back to doing all the old content on my relatively clueless Arcanist and was so shocked at how uninspiring the rewards are - to the point where I stopped looking to see what I got at quest hand ins. Green and blue items destined to be collected, logged and deconstructed as a matter of course. Gold earned for questing is so low that at the end of playing for a couple of hours you don't even look at your total to see how much you made as it doesn't even make an impression. Weapons, armor, poisons, potions, recipes... nothing even remotely exciting as a quest reward. I am grateful for the junk filter as I just sell or deconstruct the whole lot ... THE WHOLE LOT at the end of a session.

Milo

I'm actually finding quest rewards pretty decent. I'm working through all the DLC/Chapter main quests on PC while I still have ESO+ and there's plenty of costumes, body/face markings, styles. These are all once per account type rewards tho so replaying on the same account won't seem so worthwhile, but for first time questers it's very nice. I didn't appreciate how much was included on PS where I did all the new quests as they released but doing them all together you really notice just how much there is. Even the usual crappy gear rewards are nice to help fill my stickerbook.

Yes they could still be improved but they aren't all that bad as is.

rothan117

As somebody else mentioned, the idea behind the daily log in rewards was to encourage people to log in. Last month and this month, there has not been anything in the daily log in reward list that would motivate me to log in. If there is nothing in the list that encourages people to log in then the whole concept is failing.

Versalium

I'm still wearing my purple earrings that I got from a daily reward back in...June, I guess? Really good earrings, I like them a lot.

And nothing like that was ever since...

No wonder, they want us to buy crates and stuff. No money, no honey. And that's exactly why I'm not gonna ever do that.

boniboyblue

How dare they give us rubbish free stuff.

spartaxoxo

boniboyblue wrote: »

How dare they give us rubbish free stuff.

I don't give socks for birthday presents or secret Santa to my coworker. Who wants socks?

Presents should be stuff the players would actually want to use. Also corporations aren't friends. This is a consumer product and all aspects of it are open to criticism.

Versalium

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Who wants socks?

Me? Socks are great. Especially soft ones for winter. An equivalent of socks in ESO would be nice.

Seriously, what's wrong with socks?

spartaxoxo

Versalium wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Who wants socks?

Me? Socks are great. Especially soft ones for winter. An equivalent of socks in ESO would be nice.

Seriously, what's wrong with socks?

A lot of people view them as uninteresting as they typically don't even fulfill the fun fashion aspect of clothing since people don't even really see your socks when you're walking around town.

They're just this cheap, uninteresting, and utilitarian thing that you wear rather than something to really enjoy. I'll give the more luxurious socks sometimes as a bonus gift but I'd never just wrap up a pair of socks and give them as a present because I wouldn't want someone to be disappointed. It's nothing truly wrong with them. It's just why they have the reputation as a kind of a sucky gift IMO.

JemadarofCaerSalis

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Versalium wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Who wants socks?

Me? Socks are great. Especially soft ones for winter. An equivalent of socks in ESO would be nice.

Seriously, what's wrong with socks?

A lot of people view them as uninteresting as they typically don't even fulfill the fun fashion aspect of clothing since people don't even really see your socks when you're walking around town.

They're just this cheap, uninteresting, and utilitarian thing that you wear rather than something to really enjoy. I'll give the more luxurious socks sometimes as a bonus gift but I'd never just wrap up a pair of socks and give them as a present because I wouldn't want someone to be disappointed. It's nothing truly wrong with them. It's just why they have the reputation as a kind of a sucky gift IMO.

Also, another aspect of it, with socks at least, is that they are something people will generally get for themselves.


Also, yes, the daily logins are free gifts, but they are also incentives to get people to keep logging in. While they are typically most helpful for newer players, in most games I play, daily incentives are meant for *all* players and with the set up of the daily login, I don't see an issue with occasionally giving out a non-combat pet, or a costume, or motif or furnishing plan etc...

El_Borracho

I am breaking my rule of complaining about free stuff here, but have to agree with OP. This month's rewards are bargain basement. Like getting a penny or pencil for Halloween. Can I use them? Sure, but rather have the Reese's

cyclonus11

It's a great month to go on vacation

alenae1b14_ESO

I like the more varied offerrings, like the furniture items, occassional pet, luminous inks and such. During those months I make sure to log in the requisite number of days.
Every reward shoudn't be geared to new players, old timers need some goodies as well.

peacenote

For context, I'm a longtime player who mostly does dungeons, trials, and PvP.

I know that ZOS can never please everyone, but I personally prefer it when the daily login rewards are not terribly exciting, because I dislike game mechanics that try to manipulate me into changing my habits. They seem predatory. Daily login rewards that are awesome and unique, especially placed later in the month, can breed FOMO and resentment and a feeling of being unappreciated by ZOS if you aren't a player that can log in "enough" per month, which presumably is the opposite of what they are going for.

I also don't mind when sometimes they sneak in a pet or some other collectible that's a bit more exciting, to switch it up, especially since they appeared to have listened and they don't put these things on day 30 but more in the beginning or middle.

This month, I see gold, AP, gold mats, and ink... all of which are items that theoretically could benefit me in the game by having gold value. I, like others, would prefer to see tripots in the mix but there are some things I can use, even as a long term player.

I know that not everyone shares my opinion on this, but honestly I think ZOS is doing a pretty good job with the daily rewards. It's enough that if you think about obtaining all the rewards in a month or a better reward on a certain day, you'll log in if you can, but not so crazy that people feel left out if they just can't do it.

I will say that I wish the unwanted items could be deconstructed for gems or seals of endeavor... even very small amounts. I think that would go a long way towards making the "useless" rewards seem less useless.

katanagirl1

cyclonus11 wrote: »

It's a great month to go on vacation

I’d be happy of people did this. I don’t like the idea that they can inflate player numbers just by giving out free stuff. Plenty of people here on the forums say all they do is log in and claim them and then log out. Only the players who actually do things should count.

LuC1ll3atTh3Wh33L

for me the dl reward's are gravy. i'm gonna play everyday regardless.
however, all this talk of taking a break has me thinking of taking the sweaty september challenge. sweat irl, outside instead of just at my keyboard. of course i get sweaty walking the 25 feet to my br...

IrisDupree

I am fine with having a month of stuff that is more beneficial to new players. However, can we at least get a way to delete this kind of stuff for those of us who do not need it? I mean, without having to type 'DELETE' over and over until this stuff is out of our bank accounts and bags? Maybe a simple check box in the options." Warning: clicking this box will allow you to drag and delete research scrolls, XP scrolls, etc."

tomofhyrule

IrisDupree wrote: »

I am fine with having a month of stuff that is more beneficial to new players. However, can we at least get a way to delete this kind of stuff for those of us who do not need it? I mean, without having to type 'DELETE' over and over until this stuff is out of our bank accounts and bags? Maybe a simple check box in the options." Warning: clicking this box will allow you to drag and delete research scrolls, XP scrolls, etc."

On PC at least, you can mark it all as junk and then go to the junk tab in the inventory and [X] Delete All Junk in one fell swoop, no typing DELETE required.

chaz

For me, being here since beta. And all these years that gone by, the daily log in for me is just now something to do just real quick like. My daily routine is, always waking in the morning early to wash up, drink coffee while getting ready to leave for work.

So I really do only have sparingly like just minutes.

So on two fronts, I'm feeling lucky this game hasn't gone the way of WorldOfWorldcraft like the extinct Dodo.
And, I feel lucky just to log on and get a free gift.

But it's more become like an addiction now. Where I just log on, even just for junk. And also, it's crazy but, I feel like if I miss a few days, the end of the month good items, (I say loosely) tend to disappear instead of missing the actual item on that particular day.

Example, lets say the 3rd or 4th week had something good, a hat or a pet. But the first and second week I missed my chance to log in. The end of the month items vanish instead of the beginning of the month items which really pissed me off.

I had complained about 1 or 2 times about it, but, hey, it is what it is.

As for me and personally about these free monthly items. Aside from crafting items like these:



I mean it's ok.

Then Junk like this I destroy anyway because I have no use of them:



Respec Scrolls are mundane, Also get destroyed, you can't sell those if you wanted to. It's like pan handlers asking for a dollar on the street and someone throws you a nickel. Just a waste of time, for new players and vets. Like I said, it's just become addiction just to log on daily in fear of missing something.

I understand tho. ZOS/Bethesda, and whom ever is the new Giant boss whom bought out this place a while ago treats this like the cash cow it is. But friends, just like the days of Moses that golden cow is going to die out and the rest os us will be talking about Eso like those old schoolers talk about WoW until there is no more talk.

It's pretty outrageous the high cost of everything these days, new DLC which is certainly not worth the release date cost. In game items that cost way too much to get, lets use housing for example. I mean really 14000 crowns and it cost what $100 for 14000 crowns??!!



And thats just to buy a cool house you'll probably never really use. Not to mention trying to save crowns for premium crates to get a poly or a mount we may have interest in. And if so, it never drops on the first crate thanks to RNG. Thus, we need to spend spend spend, to buy more and more and more crates to get APEX awards.

True, I may be sad in what takes place in eso. I said this for years. But, again, I'm just grateful to have what I have as it is what it is. Eso has changed a little over the years with other items and means to get skins and poly's or mounts. Using endeavor points, not bad. I got a mount and a polymorph from endeavors , at least twice in my lifetime playing this. And For the first 7, possible 8 years I was a yearly ESO plus sub'r.

Well that all ended when my depression and anxiety got the best of me twice and zos did what they did to me, that and the low end rewards didn't make sense and the crafting bag infinite capacity just no longer make sense. Since I can't talk to anyone or share my stories with anyone now in this game, ESO plus subbing at best it going to be spotty, like maybe 1 to 3 months out of the year at best.

The most disappointing part for me is, over the years I approached zenomax or zenimax staff and admins, pleading my case, asking for help, begging for internal review only to end up in silence. I feel perhaps being mistreated and def misunderstood when I come to them and tell them I have a real problem. Bipolar, anxiety, and depression is a real thing and can has doctors to send proof, where RPG games really is all someone like me has got to escape the reality of how I feel like a slave on a day to day basis. Working 10, if not 11 hours shifts, spending 11 if not 12 full hours at work, only to come home and spend maybe an hour online in ESo, or wait for the weekends now to get a few more hours in just fantasizing being free but just for a moment.

Heck I don't even own a cat at home. I know there are a lot more folks out there like me, that spend all their waking moments alone at home, not even talking out loud to yourself, and nothing to do but rest from a long week of slaving all day at work,to try and make sense of why I even exist.

Al_Ex_Andre

Apparently ZOS did their homework and concluded that daily rewards are not that important (anymore?) for the player retention (maybie since the golden pursuits), and are seemingly more important to prioritarize to new players. Should be the reason of what we get now, one cannot say they are wrong then.