I KNOW FOR A FACT that I'm not the only one disapointed by daily rewards !

SilverBride

Onomog wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

The nicer rewards should be for actually playing, which is what they have done with the Golden Pursuits.

I agree. I did qualify my statement that I inferred the daily login rewards to be an added incentive, as in a little extra.

For the most part I agree that the GPs are ok for rewarding play. That said, however, both the GPs and the endeavors have lots of room for improvement

I am happy with both just as they are.

BretonMage

Also, what could be the reason we're not even getting tri-pots this month? That has always been one of the the classic login rewards, and something many of us actually use.

Tobyja

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Not being satisfied with the daily login rewards is fine. Just be honest about it and say "I want better stuff".

But to insinuate that ZOS is making the player's job difficult or miserable by heaping on unwanted items is a bit much. Claiming the rewards is optional. But even if you're a completionist, then a second of your time once a day to clicky on Destroy isn't exactly hard labor.

Allowing us to trade garbage items for 1 gem wouldn't exactly be hard labor either. Allowing us to sell them to a vendor for 1g wouldn't be hard labor. Just adding a SKIP day button, so we could bypass days to get to the next wouldn't be hard labor.

How did you get the idea, they shall generate real money currency for free stuff? That's beyond me, sorry.
For gold, hm, yeah, maybe, but i don't know how easy or not that would be to implement. No clue.
But a skip-button, i'm pretty sure, would flood the support all the time with "mimimi", like "ahhh, accidently skipped the tri-pots, pleeeeease help me...". If that's not hard labor, then what?


Anyway, for me it's not a real issue. But i'm missing the 10-year-celebration-structure of the login rewards a bit, too.
What's the reason for this, for example:

BretonMage wrote: »

That's two months in a row they didn't include a "special" reward in the middle of the month. It was nice to get a little mid-month treat, even if it's a little pet, an accessory or an emote. Even though I don't usually expect much from the daily rewards, these past 2 months' rewards have been rather boring.

So for me personal i would find it great, if there would be 3 specials a month (like housing items, collectibles, emotes, whatever), some seals of endeavor and maybe 2 crates.
Tri-pots and chicken are a must, i think. Golden mats also.
Other potions don't need to be in such masses, but i'm sure, there are other opinions out there.
However, this month is a bit flat, tri-pots are maybe just an oversight (double poison?), but it's not that bad for free.
As a reminder, this month:

Would have found more interesting for example like this:


And, of course, 1 or 2 times a year a bunch of 100.000 of gold, Tel'Var and or green alliance bucks. Thank you.

DenverRalphy

LunaFlora wrote: »

i cannot wait to find out what the Undaunted event pursuits have

I'm looking forward to it! I hope it's friggin awesome and something that takes a lot of work! Undaunted events are based around grouping for dungeon diving, and I really hope they really lean into it without fear of taking heat from players reluctant to participate.

JemadarofCaerSalis

I agree with this.

While I do understand that they aren't going to want to give away apex rewards or entire DLCs for free (and they shouldn't as a common thing) it would be nice to get a little something in the daily rewards.

A flower furnishing plan (so that you can make more if you want them), a small non-combat pet. A mount.

Something like these every once in a while (doesn't even have to be *every* month)

Because while daily rewards absolutely can help new players, I feel they are meant to keep *everyone* coming back, and the new players will quickly run out of need for most of the stuff given away.

At least allow us to sell/give away the stuff we do get! I know people are always talking about tri-pots, and i have stacks of the daily rewards! It would be nice to give them to someone that could use them instead of just destroying them.

Daoin

Pure fiction that the daily log in rewards are not more than generous

Techwolf_Lupindo

Aylish wrote: »

Not even tri pots this month.

What the Hell? I took another look and you are right. I use Tri pots on a lot of builds due to they are good and have lots of them setting in the bank and storage.

Daoin

pick 33 bugloss 33 columbine 33 mountain flower once a fortnight and your laughing again (or 1 or 2 surveys in the slow months) i do understand the legwork of harvesting 3 of each per day can be an exhausting effort for more than the monthly reward sometimes though especially when you get lucky and start harvesting 2 of everything in a row which maybe (i dont know) why it is not there this month as making them aswell for the players was a stretch too far this month

LunaFlora

DenverRalphy wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

i cannot wait to find out what the Undaunted event pursuits have

I'm looking forward to it! I hope it's friggin awesome and something that takes a lot of work! Undaunted events are based around grouping for dungeon diving, and I really hope they really lean into it without fear of taking heat from players reluctant to participate.

i expect Pursuits that require playing dungeons which is fine and should happen.
but i just hope there will not be pursuits that require being grouped.

Vonnegut2506

Tobyja wrote: »

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Not being satisfied with the daily login rewards is fine. Just be honest about it and say "I want better stuff".

But to insinuate that ZOS is making the player's job difficult or miserable by heaping on unwanted items is a bit much. Claiming the rewards is optional. But even if you're a completionist, then a second of your time once a day to clicky on Destroy isn't exactly hard labor.

Allowing us to trade garbage items for 1 gem wouldn't exactly be hard labor either. Allowing us to sell them to a vendor for 1g wouldn't be hard labor. Just adding a SKIP day button, so we could bypass days to get to the next wouldn't be hard labor.

How did you get the idea, they shall generate real money currency for free stuff? That's beyond me, sorry.
For gold, hm, yeah, maybe, but i don't know how easy or not that would be to implement. No clue.
But a skip-button, i'm pretty sure, would flood the support all the time with "mimimi", like "ahhh, accidently skipped the tri-pots, pleeeeease help me...". If that's not hard labor, then what?


Anyway, for me it's not a real issue. But i'm missing the 10-year-celebration-structure of the login rewards a bit, too.
What's the reason for this, for example:

BretonMage wrote: »

That's two months in a row they didn't include a "special" reward in the middle of the month. It was nice to get a little mid-month treat, even if it's a little pet, an accessory or an emote. Even though I don't usually expect much from the daily rewards, these past 2 months' rewards have been rather boring.

So for me personal i would find it great, if there would be 3 specials a month (like housing items, collectibles, emotes, whatever), some seals of endeavor and maybe 2 crates.
Tri-pots and chicken are a must, i think. Golden mats also.
Other potions don't need to be in such masses, but i'm sure, there are other opinions out there.
However, this month is a bit flat, tri-pots are maybe just an oversight (double poison?), but it's not that bad for free.
As a reminder, this month:

Would have found more interesting for example like this:


And, of course, 1 or 2 times a year a bunch of 100.000 of gold, Tel'Var and or green alliance bucks. Thank you.

You mean like generating real money currency i.e. Seals of Endeavor for free by finishing one daily quest? You realize you would have to destroy 400 days worth of daily login junk to get enough gems for one apex mount, right? I don't think the ability to turn over a year's worth of garbage into one way-too flashy mount is going to break the ESO coffers. Hey, if you are happy to collect and delete 21 days worth of login rewards this month, good on you. It's not a way I would prefer to spend my free time when there are solutions out there.

Star Wars the Old Republic has even worse daily login rewards than this game. The big difference: All of the garbage can be sold to the vendors so you at least get something out of it instead of the fun mini-game of delete and CONFIRM.

DenverRalphy

LunaFlora wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

i cannot wait to find out what the Undaunted event pursuits have

I'm looking forward to it! I hope it's friggin awesome and something that takes a lot of work! Undaunted events are based around grouping for dungeon diving, and I really hope they really lean into it without fear of taking heat from players reluctant to participate.

i expect Pursuits that require playing dungeons which is fine and should happen.
but i just hope there will not be pursuits that require being grouped.

With harmony and synergies being such a staple element of Undaunted, I won't be surprised to see any pursuits that require synergies inside of a dungeon. Granted that can be done with a companion if the companion has undaunted skills slotted.

BetweenMidgets

Renato90085 wrote: »

i am glad reward is trash

same, means logging in less or not at all doesn't bother me.

Elsonso

Toanis wrote: »

Neither tri pots, nor chicken

We are all gonna starve!

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I am noticing that lately there are a lot more "help for new character" rewards like research scrolls and riding lessons (surprisingly none of those this month), but there's very little reason in game for us to make new characters.

It has sorta been "known" for a long time that these rewards are for newer players more than established players. I would think that established players have a reason for logging in and it isn't the free food that is doing that.

For me, the main purpose of daily rewards is to keep track of how many times I log in during the month. If they are handing out something interesting, I pay more attention, otherwise, I just collect the stuff when I get it.

SilverBride wrote: »

The nicer rewards should be for actually playing, which is what they have done with the Golden Pursuits.

I think the Golden Pursuits are better than daily rewards for established players. My main objection to them is just the level of social engineering that they could leverage.

Al_Ex_Andre

I want free mounts in daily rewards again. Will not be the case this month. Free mounts appeared in daily login rewards before, hoping this has not be buried with and due to the new golden pursuit mode...

This month is again free stuff, but (of course or not) not of much help for a veteran

edit: clarity + one more sentence

Tobyja

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

[...]
You mean like generating real money currency i.e. Seals of Endeavor for free by finishing one daily quest?
[...]

You spoke about generating gems, a real money currency. Seals of Endevour are not, that's a difference. There are reasons why they existing.

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

[...]
Star Wars the Old Republic has even worse daily login rewards than this game. The big difference: All of the garbage can be sold to the vendors so you at least get something out of it instead of the fun mini-game of delete and CONFIRM.

"To get something out of" is another totally different thing. As i stated, i'm with you, if that "wouldn't be hard labor". But i guess, it's not that easy.
Edit: And the last point ("the fun mini-game of delete and confirm"), to be constructive, maybe would be a possibillity for a skip button. But wouldn't it be the same then? Ok, may be one or two clicks less.
Nonsense, my bad. Sometimes i'm wondering about myself. Just don't claim it.

scrappy1342

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

The big difference: All of the garbage can be sold to the vendors so you at least get something out of it instead of the fun mini-game of delete and CONFIRM.

when i'm feeling to lazy to DESTROY things, i just mark it as junk and then throw away the junk ^.^ no confirmation needed

spartaxoxo

scrappy1342 wrote: »

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

The big difference: All of the garbage can be sold to the vendors so you at least get something out of it instead of the fun mini-game of delete and CONFIRM.

when i'm feeling to lazy to DESTROY things, i just mark it as junk and then throw away the junk ^.^ no confirmation needed

Still no ability to sell all junk on console

ElderSmitter

SilverBride wrote: »

The reward fits the activity required to earn it. It's free stuff for doing nothing but logging in.

I agree. The daily log in reward does not have to be like power creep and get better each month. It is just a randomized allotment of free stuff handed out each month to current players. Nothing more nothing less. Depending on the player each day and month may be more or less rewarding, but it is still free and random. ESO does offer many ways to accumulate free stuff..

They offer free daily log in rewards.
They offer daily endeavors
They offer weekly endeavors
They also off occasionally free items in the crown store.

Plus, more...

many of these things take virtually no energy to accomplish.

Cheers!

Tariq9898

I need my tri pots

BlueViolet

I mentioned this last night to my kid and a friend. The rewards weren't specatcular this month.
I don't want to be ungrateful, because I usually LOVE getting the tri pots, the roast chickens and XP scrolls. But all of those poisons and refreshing drinks are useless to me. I don't mind the tempers or the ink, they are also useful, but not so much the soul gems, poisons and things like alliance points.
Just an opinion.

Gabriel_H

The daily rewards need options. I've said this before: There should be options on the things that older players simply do not need or care about like pots, research, riding lessons.

moderatelyfatman

One train of thought argues that we should be too disappointed by the daily logins since they are free.

But then we factor in the time it takes do destroy the worthless crud in our inventories. The problem is most of us are doing the latter.

DinoZavr

Well.. these are free things, and i like freebies.

Still, dear @ZOS, if you are reading this: maybe you could consider helping new players and replace not-highly-demanded by seasoned players potions with riding lessons? Fortunately, there are always new players in ESO. Or at least new characters.

I also understand that you would like to move shinies exclusively to Golden Pursuits, to incentivize spending more time in game, still you might throw into daily logins something nice like a stylish costume, or a pair of crates just to show you are generous & care about players? Just saying. Summer vacations season is over.

On the other hand, September rewards allow me not to login often, and, maybe, have some life, or try new steam games.

SilverBride

Tariq9898 wrote: »

I need my tri pots

I use those a lot, too.

katanagirl1

As soon as I saw the daily rewards for this month, I knew there was going to be an enraged thread about it.

Not disappointed, lol.

Islyn

Garbage that most players will not use.

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

Here’s the thing. Daily rewards aren’t for us veterans. They’ve never been. They’re for newer people who are getting into the game for the first time. Yes, tri-pots are useful. But at this point, the guild stores are chock full of them and I don’t know a single long-time player who can’t craft them.

Also, think about the community response whenever some limited-time item gets thrown out there as a mundane reward. People get mad because they “earned it” and others won’t.

There could also be idk a *choice* of items Newbie shet or like forfeit that stuff for a piece of a collectible per week until u get it at the end. IDK.

randconfig

SilverBride wrote: »

The reward fits the activity required to earn it. It's free stuff for doing nothing but logging in.

Well you're not wrong, but the purpose of free daily rewards is to provide an incentive for players to login to the game to play. Sure some might just login for the rewards, but some will login and maybe queue up for a dungeon or battlegrounds, and that makes all the difference to help the game feel more full and alive with people.

So by not providing any real collectibles, the most used tri-pots or chicken food, or even providing a rare currency like endeavor seals, a lot of players don't have the motivation/incentive to login this month.

And there are countless collectibles that could throw in there, even the 10000th variation of pet dog, just something to motivate us to login. Just my two cents anyway.

frogthroat

My guess is that those extra, unique goodies we got was because of the 10 year celebration. Now it's over and we'll get something special only occasionally. Golden Pursuits are probably going to be more frequent source of extra goodies.

Mathius_Mordred

It takes so little effort to add something nice to the daily rewards. Since I've been playing solidly for the last two years there has always been something to look forward to in the daily rewards, the last two months there has been nothing, it's mostly junk that I won't ever use except for the XP scrolls. This is indicative of a company that's lost interest in its players I'm afraid.

S2RDK

Well

SilverBride wrote: »

The reward fits the activity required to earn it. It's free stuff for doing nothing but logging in.

Well - I actually paid for it, so there is that.
But - why are they not including the JC improvement (Chromium Plating) they changed them so they would be more like the other improvements, but they forgot them in the rewards.