TOP 3 Worst ESO Changes in 11 Years

peacenote

1. AwA
2. AwA
3. AwA

Wereswan

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

1. No pet Sorcerers being told they need to subclass if they want to have a viable no pet build.

Source?

General Skill Line: We’re removing the separation of a pet vs no pet build in this skill line now that sub-classing is here. Those who do not wish to interact with the pet gameplay can now replace this skill line as a whole. Many abilities in this skill line have been adjusted with this in mind.

Source.

SilverBride

NoticeMeArkay wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

1. No pet Sorcerers being told they need to subclass if they want to have a viable no pet build.

Source?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8296264/#Comment_8296264

Sorcerer
Daedric Summoning
General Skill Line: We’re removing the separation of a pet vs no pet build in this skill line now that sub-classing is here. Those who do not wish to interact with the pet gameplay can now replace this skill line as a whole. Many abilities in this skill line have been adjusted with this in mind.
Conjured Ward and morphs: Conjured Ward and Hardened Ward no longer heal the you if you do not have any pets active.
Regenerative Ward now heals you for ~5% of your Max Health or Max Magicka if you have a pet active.
Daedric Prey: This ability now increases the damage your Sorcerer pets deal to the target by 50%, instead of increasing the damage all of your pets deal to the target by 45%.

[Developer Comment]
With subclassing here, we've had to adjust this ability to prevent it from becoming egregiously overpowered when paired with the maximum use case of pets. We've gone forward with a model that largely retains the power where it already lies, where it buffs Sorcerer's pets - but slightly limited it where it will no longer work with proc based pets or other class pets.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

For those who mention the Vampire ultimate change

Are you seriously telling me you want to be a weak thin-blooded Vampire and not a Vampire Lord? there is no power-fantasy in being thin-blooded, why even be a Vampire if you cannot be a powerful one?

1. Subclassing
2. Grave Lord's Sacrifice
3. Removal of 3 team Battlegrounds

Ishtarknows

1. AwA (top complaint by a long way)



2. Templar jab shovel
3. Their persistence at having invulnerability phases for bosses

The_Meathead

1. U35 - especially the deafening silence after
2. Hybridization = Homogenization
3. Battlegrounds to 2 teams

kargen27

Account wide achievements. Nothing else comes close.

Changing calculations from client side to server side had a really nasty affect on PvP but it had to be done so I would call it my number two worst change from a player perspective. It had to happen though because of the rampant cheating.

and my third is account wide achievements because it was so bad one time on the list isn't enough.

Ascarl

Sir Cadwell not voiced by John Cleese anymore

Elswyr not including monk but necromancer class (based on forum whining not lore)

Declaring animation canceling a feature not a bug

Xarc

you right about U35
This shattered the fight, knocking down the good players to align them with the (really) less good ones

Elsonso

It is hard to hold it at three items, but I managed!

1. Vomit DragonKnight (stamina uses green poison)
2. Account Wide Achievements (removed my need to play alts, resulting in significant reduction in play time)
3. Some mount customization decisions, and a few other things more recently, abandoned the Elder Scrolls perspective in favor of flashy stuff to bolster monetization. (Game looks more like a generic MMO now)
4. Crown Store purchases were not applied to both NA and EU servers

React

1. Cast times on offensive ultimates. Claimed as a "counterplay change", but for some reason they didn't feel the need to apply the same logic to defensive ults. Made all ults with cast times way worse to use and was totally unnecessary.

2. Hybridization. I know this one is controversial for some, but for me this effectively halved the number of classes in the game. When we had stamina and magicka versions of every class, they each felt unique compared to one another and effectively gave us 12 (this was pre arcanist) classes as opposed to the 6 that we had after hybridization.

3. The animation/block changes about 5 years ago. I forget exactly when this was, but they changed how block worked, primarily in regards to how you could cancel animations with it. They claimed it would have "no impact whatsoever on animation cancelling", which was just flat out untrue. From this point on a ton of skills in the game became extremely clunky, and no longer could be block cancelled cleanly. They never once addressed the impact change or even acknowledged what had happened.

Hurbster

AwA
U35
Nerfing a set just to make a new set only available in Dungeon DLC look better. I would like my Iceheart back, please. It wasn't OP, it wasn't a game changer, but it fit my build of a 2h Ice warden perfectly.

Lest we forget, without One Tamriel we probably would not have a game now.

Horace-Wimp

I sure wish I knew what all of you were griping about. What exactly was update 35? I was disappointed when I saw that AWA is a thing but I quickly got over it. And I always try to be sure that when I do something for the first time in the game I do it on my main...which pretty much keeps me from playing my other toons other than daily RNDs.

I just wish ESO was more like other MMOs that I've played where everything is simple and straightforward when it came to improving my characters. I have NO interest in reading various websites nor using third party software. Gear, skills and roles are so confusing and convoluted in ESO I've long since given up on trying to figure it all out. I'd LIKE to build a tank and healer but...if it was easy to figure out I would have figured them out by now. I just do the simple easy stuff and hope for the best. I know I will never be able to run veteran dungeons or do any raids, which sucks, but I console myself with the fact that because of this I don't ever need to buy ESO+ unless I get tired of selling all of my Inventory overflow.

Xarc

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

I always try to be sure that when I do something for the first time in the game I do it on my main...

Yeh I know how you feel... unfortunately
And the fact of having achievements forever locked by characters that I personally consider secondary, I don't really like that. While I carefully leveled each character before the famous AwA reform, everything was turned upside down and today just to craft a set I struggle to know if this character has the style in question or not since even if I unlocked the achievement it is not clearly indicated, I have to go to the crafting table and check each time it is very tedious, and that is only for crafting

I don't know, I increasingly feel like I'm not a player but a customer on ESO. And it's not very pleasant, to be honest.

Dreadwar

1. Poop Rocks
2. Templar Jabs Annimation (the fact that they WILL NOT change it back, yet use that look for the upcoming subclass promo pictures, is beyond a slap in the face.)
3. Nerfing Overland to crayon eating status.

Naltanir

1. Scalebreaker update and changes that occur in pvp ~ around this moment
2. Hybridization
3. Subclassing for 2025

Udrath

1. Update 25-29 knew things were going to get worse from here on out. (Hybridisation & huge changes )
2. Update 35 - it was way worse than I thought
3. Every set and mythic added since Greymoore started and announcement of subclassing.

Thumbless_Bot

2 team bgs

Double spec bow

Ward buff

fizzylu

1. 4v4v4 BGs getting removed and replaced
2. the entirety of the vampire rework and the changes to some sets and balancing at the release of Greymoor (what some may consider the first proc set meta)
3. U35

Lord_Hev

1. Sub-classing
2. Update 35
3. Greymoor

Diundriel

1 Hybridization
2 Plague Break (removed Purge in Group Play Completely)
3 Vampire Ulti - I loved that other ulti on my magplar for pvp
4 removing three team battlegrounds completly (reintroduce them as a queue option plz)

BlueViolet

I complain about a lot of stuff, but I can usually get past it. There are some things I can't however.

1, Account Wide Achievements ( I despise this SO much )
2. Animation changes to jabs, flurry, and anything else that makes your character look like they're having a toddler tantrum
3. The stupid racial changes to Bosmer and their stealth ( I will harp about this until the day I give this game away for good )

Update 35 was also bad.
Tassets and deformed chests on females.
Bring back the original Redguard motif ( another thing I will continue to harp on )
Lack of black hair for Altmer
Clown Crates & the lack of anything good in the store that isn't stuffed into a predatory crate.

I'll stop now.

Thysbe

1) U35

2) visual noise: the newer Apex mounts (ugly flower cat, pink exploding bubble), Dolmen Recall and totally unfitting Polymorphs like Molag Bal (I dont want to see him eating cake next to me)

3) Arcanist utterly destroying the high fantasy feel ESO once had. Fits better into Star wars. It´s nice to play but the neon green laser beam just doesn´t fit into the game. And there is no chance to get away from this one, you see those beams almost everywhere.

nickl413

AWA. An ok idea in theory but the way they went about it was a total mess. I would be fine with simply being able to wear our earned titles on all characters but they didn't stop there. The way they did it completely jacked up the achievement section of the journal. Some things still have to be done on alts such as dungeons for the skill points, or learning motifs for crafting in a certain style. It is difficult to tell if you've done these things on your current character. And with account wide achievements why can I still not buy achievement locked furniture on an alt that didn't achieve it? Makes no sense.

Needless animation changes, particularly to jabs. That last strike makes it looks like you've turned your mouse away from the target. I recently tried rapid strikes for the first time in a while and WOW is that bad. Did nobody test that out before implementing the change? It looks like you're just flailing light attacks.

I'm happy to see that so many people are as annoyed by the flashy mounts as I am. Like why do I need to see someone mounting up half way across the map? When did they add harrowstorms to Cyrodiil? Oh wait that's just someone getting on their mount. Would be nice to have a toggle for turning off other people's mount animations.

colossalvoids

Start of hybridisation
Account wide achievements
Achievements for different classes, alliances and other trash ones that make zero sense just bloating the system and engagement time of dedicated players

There were worse smaller stuff personally but I'm trying to list something more significant here rather than random skill change in some concrete patch. Obviously I still dislike new flurry, bound armaments, lack of third bar on sorc, cast times on some ults, nerfing dots to oblivion after overbuff, all the tinkering with a/c and weaving that were fine before - lots of small things over the years. Overall class identity took a nose dive since Eric went away from the team and some other folks got replaced, it would go further from class design with new "chapter" however they want to call a bigger dlc now.

Edit: also remembered one thing triggering me heavily being war machine/master architect changes. My buffblade and plar are still mourning the change at hand, was my favourite way of building and participation in a group content.

Thysbe

colossalvoids wrote: »

Achievements for different classes, alliances and other trash ones that make zero sense just bloating the system and engagement time of dedicated players.

true - especially ones that were introduced retroactively and don´t take into acocunt that you have already done that a zillion times. "Loot Safebox in every zone, Shop in every Zone, Approach every mundus"...

dcrush

U35
AWA
Hybridization

redlink1979

1. AWA
2. U35
3. Hybridization
4. 4x4x4 BG removal

Unfadingsilence

1. The loss of dynamic ult "rip vampire dks"
2. Purge from cloak
3. Master weapons/Vma weapons from end of pvp campaign rewards

sans-culottes

Given that achievements in video games do not have any meaningful value to me, I’d say subclassing. Account-wide achievements didn’t bother me, nor did they make it worthless to play on other characters. It just made achievements more streamlined. This new pseudo-multiclassing system is a mess, though.