Crazy Polymorphs are ruining the game

Mavloc

It's very lore-breaking and nonimmersive to see people walking around town as literal atronachs or living chandeliers.
As if the crazy mounts weren't bad enough.

Dear ZOS, Stop It.
Just stop.

dk_dunkirk

The increasing flashiness and ostentatiousness of the Crown store offerings speak to a certain desperation. I hate the giant purple sphere of porting especially.

Mavloc

Walking around town as a literal skeleton: Peaceful

Summoning the undead in town: CRIMINAL ACT

Remathilis

Remove the polymorphs (all of them), all flashy mounts, all exotic and daedric pets, daedric costumes, bright metallic clothes dyes, skill styles, custom actions, flashy weapons packs, skins, unnatural body/face markings, wild hair (Tanlorin) and all that other visual noise (and auditory noise). You can remove the crazy houses and furniture too.

There. We made Tamriel lore friendly and boringly plain.

Soarora

People can reasonably be atronachs, and while they realistically wouldn’t be allowed in town, ZOS would face far more complaints if people had to turn off their polymorph every time they wanted to come into town to use the bank, trader, craft, get dailies, etc.

kringled_1

It was hilarious to me seeing someone wearing the mirrormoor polymorph being arrested by a guard the other day

Jaraal

Molag Bal: Kills you, steals your soul, turns you into a living corpse.

Player: Pays cash to run around looking like their murderer, complete with mini-murderer pet.

ZOS:

Mavloc

Remathilis wrote: »

Remove the polymorphs (all of them), all flashy mounts, all exotic and daedric pets, daedric costumes, bright metallic clothes dyes, skill styles, custom actions, flashy weapons packs, skins, unnatural body/face markings, wild hair (Tanlorin) and all that other visual noise (and auditory noise). You can remove the crazy houses and furniture too.

There. We made Tamriel lore friendly and boringly plain.

This thread is only about polymorphs. Nice try though.

There is no reason people need to look like a spriggan.
ZOS simply took an asset they already had made and tried to monetize it.

Why can't I summon a spriggan? Why can't I have one as a combat pet?
Oh, because that would require WORK.

Erickson9610

I'd support a client-side toggle to hide everyone's customization items. I personally wouldn't use it unless I was in PvP and needed to see things like what race a player is using despite them hiding it with their polymorphs.

DeadlySerious

Mavloc wrote: »

It's very lore-breaking and nonimmersive to see people walking around town as literal atronachs or living chandeliers.
As if the crazy mounts weren't bad enough.

Dear ZOS, Stop It.
Just stop.

Agreed.

Juju_beans

Funny I was just thinking about this the other day. Lore immersion is no more...it's about loud and flashy.

opalcity

I disagree. For me it adds some variety and fun to the world.

Servadei

It makes a lot of money so it will never be removed.

AcadianPaladin

Yes, please stop with the neon cartoon graphics - or at least give us a toggle to escape the audio/visual assault it inflicts.

JaxontheUnfortunate

Eso, cyber-punk edition

Remathilis

Mavloc wrote: »

Remathilis wrote: »

Remove the polymorphs (all of them), all flashy mounts, all exotic and daedric pets, daedric costumes, bright metallic clothes dyes, skill styles, custom actions, flashy weapons packs, skins, unnatural body/face markings, wild hair (Tanlorin) and all that other visual noise (and auditory noise). You can remove the crazy houses and furniture too.

There. We made Tamriel lore friendly and boringly plain.

This thread is only about polymorphs. Nice try though..

Your rationale works for all of those. A Spriggan polymorph is a bad ass a skin that makes you look like a soul shriven, body marks that cover you in glowing runes, a four armed(!) horse, or teleports using dark anchors. It's lore breaking and visually annoying.

The grounded aesthetic disappeared long ago. It's all sparkles and monsters because that sells.

jlats

Honestly just think about it like it’s a costume, like people in this world including guards etc. know it’s not a real spriggan or Minotaur or whatever. That happens in the real world all the time. Just go for lunch near a big fantasy/sci-fi/anime convention and you see people in mad costumes surrounded by people in regular clothes. Or compare it to the Hollywood walk of fame or vegas, everyone knows it’s not really Michael Jackson or Elvis and it doesn’t faze them.

Mavloc

Servadei wrote: »

It makes a lot of money so it will never be removed.

You know what would make them even MORE money?
Locking polymorph behind a consumable. Imagine having to reactivate it every 1 hour to keep the appearance going.

I'm also curious how the polymorph effects their costume and motif/style page sales?
You don't need to invest anything into character appearance, if you're perfectly fine with being an atronach all day.

But why stop as molag bal? Why not let me polymorph into Hermeus Mora, and let me shoot lazers out of my eye?

If money is truly all that matters, just sell me the heart of Lorkhan for $1000 and I'll be God.

Juomuuri

I do miss the times when the game was less sparkly, but we did also have some of it way back when (like with the dro-m'Athra mount, motif, pet and the mobs themselves). But sadly, this is an MMO and eye burners are a thing that sells. I remember when GW2 introduced "infusions" which would alter your character's colors and patterns etc and those look so nauseating. I'd rather look at ESO's mounts and polymorphs than those, and I'm not even kidding. Some of the infusions are animated! And they gave me migraines!

Asdara

dk_dunkirk wrote: »

The increasing flashiness and ostentatiousness of the Crown store offerings speak to a certain desperation. I hate the giant purple sphere of porting especially.

Giant purple sphere??? what are you refering to?

dk_dunkirk

Asdara wrote: »

dk_dunkirk wrote: »

The increasing flashiness and ostentatiousness of the Crown store offerings speak to a certain desperation. I hate the giant purple sphere of porting especially.

Giant purple sphere??? what are you refering to?

The "Accursed Recall," which is so large, it will block everyone's view who are gathered at wayshrines, banks, and vendors.

Carcamongus

While we're at it, why not remove people's ability to chat? Players discussing events that haven't happened yet (Skyrim) or commenting on Christmas decorations (Earth) are breaking immersion and ruining the game! Even if they discuss the price of eggs in whispers!

Don't take this game so seriously. Besides, the lore's elastic enough to accommodate a tame minotaur with the duchess personality prancing about town. Blame it on magic or something.

Mavloc

Carcamongus wrote: »

While we're at it, why not remove people's ability to chat? Players discussing events that haven't happened yet (Skyrim) or commenting on Christmas decorations (Earth) are breaking immersion and ruining the game! Even if they discuss the price of eggs in whispers!

Don't take this game so seriously. Besides, the lore's elastic enough to accommodate a tame minotaur with the duchess personality prancing about town. Blame it on magic or something.

It goes both ways buddy.
Next year I expect my Hermeus Mora Polymorph.

And I want a recall animation where I rip the fattest thuum out my arse and lift off into the air like a rocket with the sound of a swamp jelly squirting.

tomofhyrule

I always find it interesting that people who make these “I don’t like other people having fun!” threads don’t stop to consider that the other people may have a very good reason for things, and an in-universe lore-appropriate one as well.

Seriously, does nobody think that it’s completely possible for someone to have a fully-researched 5+ page backstory on why their character is a minotaur? Because I haven’t finished mine yet, but the google doc with my planning and research is up to 7.5 pages now, and all I need is for ZOS to release a new class so I can patch a few holes in his backstory and get him off the ground.

spartaxoxo

jlats wrote: »

Honestly just think about it like it’s a costume, like people in this world including guards etc. know it’s not a real spriggan or Minotaur or whatever. That happens in the real world all the time. Just go for lunch near a big fantasy/sci-fi/anime convention and you see people in mad costumes surrounded by people in regular clothes. Or compare it to the Hollywood walk of fame or vegas, everyone knows it’s not really Michael Jackson or Elvis and it doesn’t faze them.

The companions certainly do think of it as just an illusion.

For example what Mirri says

When you equip the Cadaverous Assassin polymorph:

"Nope! I know it's just an illusion, but I don't like it, I don't want it. Uh uh."

Mavloc

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I always find it interesting that people who make these “I don’t like other people having fun!” threads don’t stop to consider that the other people may have a very good reason for things, and an in-universe lore-appropriate one as well.

Seriously, does nobody think that it’s completely possible for someone to have a fully-researched 5+ page backstory on why their character is a minotaur? Because I haven’t finished mine yet, but the google doc with my planning and research is up to 7.5 pages now, and all I need is for ZOS to release a new class so I can patch a few holes in his backstory and get him off the ground.

Ok, but someone explain to me what a "mirror atronach" is

spartaxoxo

Mavloc wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I always find it interesting that people who make these “I don’t like other people having fun!” threads don’t stop to consider that the other people may have a very good reason for things, and an in-universe lore-appropriate one as well.

Seriously, does nobody think that it’s completely possible for someone to have a fully-researched 5+ page backstory on why their character is a minotaur? Because I haven’t finished mine yet, but the google doc with my planning and research is up to 7.5 pages now, and all I need is for ZOS to release a new class so I can patch a few holes in his backstory and get him off the ground.

Ok, but someone explain to me what a "mirror atronach" is

An Atronach from Mirrormoor, the realm of the boss in West Weald.

Wolfkeks

spartaxoxo wrote: »

jlats wrote: »

Honestly just think about it like it’s a costume, like people in this world including guards etc. know it’s not a real spriggan or Minotaur or whatever. That happens in the real world all the time. Just go for lunch near a big fantasy/sci-fi/anime convention and you see people in mad costumes surrounded by people in regular clothes. Or compare it to the Hollywood walk of fame or vegas, everyone knows it’s not really Michael Jackson or Elvis and it doesn’t faze them.

The companions certainly do think of it as just an illusion.

For example what Mirri says

When you equip the Cadaverous Assassin polymorph:

"Nope! I know it's just an illusion, but I don't like it, I don't want it. Uh uh."

Didn't know that the companions react like this to polymorphs. (Now I'm wondering how Ember reacts to the werewolf lord polymorph since she dislikes wolves) So yeah makes sense that the npcs think you just use magic to change your appearance.

Monte_Cristo

Mavloc wrote: »

Walking around town as a literal skeleton: Peaceful

Summoning the undead in town: CRIMINAL ACT

That's cause the summoning is the crime. If you're a skelly, the guards will go searching for the vile fiend who summoned you.
Frame someone by turning skelly and walking behind them like they're your master.

SilverBride

Mavloc wrote: »

It's very lore-breaking and nonimmersive to see people walking around town as literal atronachs or living chandeliers.
As if the crazy mounts weren't bad enough.

Dear ZOS, Stop It.
Just stop.

I agree 1000000 %. This game is becoming more and more cartoony and losing the "realiistic" feel it had at launch. It's like logging into a preschool playground.

Necrotech_Master

i really like the polymorphs, especially because most of them make you essentially non-human

want to play as a daedra? xivkyn polymorphs for example

my main has been running around with the skeleton active almost since the game launched, back then it was still considered a "disguise" instead of a polymorph because polymorphs didnt exist at the time lol