Crazy Polymorphs are ruining the game

magnusthorek

I'd support a base game overhaul that would allow me to not see other players' choices of skins/polymorphs, pets, mounts, mementos, or even skill effects. It's not pleasant or healthy arriving at a wayshrine at the same time someone else already there mounts up off their way onto something that comets down or traverses a flashy portal.

Ulvich

Juju_beans wrote: »

Funny I was just thinking about this the other day. Lore immersion is no more...it's about loud and flashy.

All we need now is a little disco from our musicboxes and we're all set.

Rogue_Coyote

In the crown store, it costs 2k crowns for a flashy flappy bird colour

Bethgael

maboleth wrote: »

And another thing.
What applies to the appearance customization applies to the homes as well.

Most homes I've seen are flashy, colorful, circus-like, kitschy as well. Truly Sheogorath inspired, though totally unintentional.

Too many objects, too many obstacles. Only few of the guys I've visited actually had homes that looked real (fantasy real), in-sync with the lore or original settings of the home environment.

All of my homes on the tours thus far are lore-friendly homes if you'd care to have a look.

SilverBride

maboleth wrote: »

And another thing.
What applies to the appearance customization applies to the homes as well.

Most homes I've seen are flashy, colorful, circus-like, kitschy as well. Truly Sheogorath inspired, though totally unintentional.

Too many objects, too many obstacles. Only few of the guys I've visited actually had homes that looked real (fantasy real), in-sync with the lore or original settings of the home environment.

I've seen plenty of those homes, too and I don't understand the appeal for that, either.

I have 39 decorated homes at the moment and every one is realistically decorated. The only one that isn't is my house that looks like a normal home inside, but the courtyard is being invaded and attacked by aliens. I decorated it for a guild housing contest and thought it was fun so I left it. But even it isn't flashy, but more like you'd see in an alien movie.

Wuduwasa13

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Wuduwasa13 wrote: »

Money speaks the loudest and as long as people continue buying the flash, it’ll continue to have its place in the game. Clearly it is being well received by the community at large as if not then time would not be dedicated to producing it & it wouldn’t occur enough in game to incite you folk to complain here on the forums about it bi-weekly.

This whole thread reeks of whiny RP entitlement.

The game is an MMO, not your personal RP simulator where other players are your captive audience & don’t get to play it as they wish simply to suit your preferences & enhance your experience.

I am definitely on team "I like the magical stuff."

But, I don't think this is quite fair. The single player games have their fair share of things that make the world of Tamriel feel much more magical than our own. And these polymorphs, flashy mounts, skills, etc enhance that feeling IMO. But, the single player games for decades also allowed you to skip all of things and play in a more dour, realistic setting if you wanted to as well. There's a lot of gray and brown in Skyrim's color palette, for example.

I think it's fair if people want the multiplayer game to give them the option as well. I don't think the name-calling (calling fellow adults children) or calls for deleting these items from production are fair. But, I do think something like a toggle would be. I think a performance mode with player effects turned off and everyone in default looks would probably be a good for more than just this issue, tbh. It would probably improve the lag and performance in Cyrodiil and Trials as well.

No problem with a toggle option, but form my experience & observation here many of these folk are stuck in a loop of endlessly complaining about every minute detail of the game then don’t personally like & insist it should vanish from the game. It smacks of self-centredness & entitlement.

alpha_synuclein

JiubLeRepenti wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

Technically, Zenimax/MS owns lore. They define what lore is and can change it at will.

Thing is: from what I see, ZOS doesn't generate any coherent lore around these flashy collectibles.

I would like to know how the lore of the following mount integrates with the overall lore of the game:

Too much shrooms from Stone garden?

Tbh, this could be put in as an actual effect after eating them. Temporary and applied to character though.

gronoxvx

vsrs_au

When I used to occasionally equip the azure blight spriggan polymorph, Mirri would say "I knew it! That's what you really look like, isn't it?".

Ye_Olde_Crowe

Whatever floats people‘s boats. I, for example, like to see folks wearing polys and riding boom bears, but duelists in town tend to stress me out. So what? If it‘s too much for my eyes, I leave.
On the other hand, I thoroughly enjoy playing as my fake Dwemer who is actually just a not-very-well-informed-or-up-to-date Xivkyn sorc in disguise. I actually had someone whisper me about how I was tacky to play a Dwemer when everybody and his brother knew that they were gone for good.
Well. Enter the Xivkyn…. ^^

DewiMorgan

I don't mind other people using them: only thing I really object to is the sea-sickness/nausea from having flapping Twilights onscreen, but that's more an accessibility issue than an aesthetic one. Still, I really wouldn't object to a clientside "see other people as drab" button. Or indeed to an addon that did the same. They make every town a festival, and every passing person a melodramatic mummer galloping to their show.

Part of the flamboyance is size. I'd LOVE a polymorph that made me smaller, maybe one of the smaller khajiit races, or a Banekin... but almost all of them are like 7ft tall. I'm just a Bosmer! I don't wanna be a giant!

I really, really like understated outfits. The Blacksmith outfit with a leather hat is my go-to for my main. I'd love much more understated mounts, more subtle harvesting and teleporting emotes, etc: I have, but don't use, plenty of dramatic, sparkly ones.

If I really want to flaunt, then the beta monkey is my style. Gloriously understated. You don't need a fountain of sparkles to be flauntable. But mostly I don't even have a pet out.

I dislike Apple products, but there's something to be said for their clean, minimalist aesthetic. Give me a teleport that's just me sitting down, then just ashpiling silently down onto the floor; or just fade away: no sparkles, sounds, nothing that draws the eye. The leaves one ain't bad, to be honest, but mostly that's because even the default is kinda showy.

Aliniel

I said it once before and I'll say it again: ESO is becoming a circus of colors and flashlights. And it's too late to go back on it, because people paid money for all the bs already. ESO has a certain art style that discourages brights colors as they look horrible. This works quite well in games such as WoW which has a somewhat cartoony art style, but in ESO, where everything is gloomy, and has a touch of realistic art to it, it destroys the artfulness of it all.

Sometimes I just wish I could hide all the players as they ruin the immersion into the world of Tamriel.

INM

It's a typical path a live-service game takes, simply because people buy shiny stuff even if it looks awful.

agelonestar

Just for balance....

Dear ZoS. Please continue to provide flashy mounts, polymorphs, and costumes. I like them and so do very many people. After all, they're optional.

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TX12001rwb17_ESO

ZOS should make polymorphs for the transformations, why leave them exclusive to the Humanoid form?

- Blood Knight alternative for the Blood Scion
- Werebear alternative for the Werewolf

Solantris

I like my fantasy polymorphs, armor, colours. I like the ostentatiousness of it. I like seeing other people using them. In general, I enjoy it when people enjoy themselves.

Circuitous

DewiMorgan wrote: »

I don't mind other people using them: only thing I really object to is the sea-sickness/nausea from having flapping Twilights onscreen, but that's more an accessibility issue than an aesthetic one. Still, I really wouldn't object to a clientside "see other people as drab" button. Or indeed to an addon that did the same. They make every town a festival, and every passing person a melodramatic mummer galloping to their show.

Part of the flamboyance is size. I'd LOVE a polymorph that made me smaller, maybe one of the smaller khajiit races, or a Banekin... but almost all of them are like 7ft tall. I'm just a Bosmer! I don't wanna be a giant!

I really, really like understated outfits. The Blacksmith outfit with a leather hat is my go-to for my main. I'd love much more understated mounts, more subtle harvesting and teleporting emotes, etc: I have, but don't use, plenty of dramatic, sparkly ones.

If I really want to flaunt, then the beta monkey is my style. Gloriously understated. You don't need a fountain of sparkles to be flauntable. But mostly I don't even have a pet out.

I dislike Apple products, but there's something to be said for their clean, minimalist aesthetic. Give me a teleport that's just me sitting down, then just ashpiling silently down onto the floor; or just fade away: no sparkles, sounds, nothing that draws the eye. The leaves one ain't bad, to be honest, but mostly that's because even the default is kinda showy.

I agree completely. The idea of a toggle is a nice one, even if I suspect it's not something they could ever implement ("What's the point of this new polymorph if people can just turn it off?").

Jaraal

DewiMorgan wrote: »

I don't mind other people using them: only thing I really object to is the sea-sickness/nausea from having flapping Twilights onscreen, but that's more an accessibility issue than an aesthetic one

Enough people voiced this sentiment that ZOS nerfed the nauseating rotating crux effect, so that it drops off with a timer now. Maybe if more people claimed experiencing actual physical/mental illness from the monotonous, hypnotic bobbing and flapping, they would do something about it, like make the twilight smaller, add a /hidetwilight toggle, or some other solution. Instead, they added a garish red version to have to deal with.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Jaraal wrote: »

DewiMorgan wrote: »

I don't mind other people using them: only thing I really object to is the sea-sickness/nausea from having flapping Twilights onscreen, but that's more an accessibility issue than an aesthetic one

Enough people voiced this sentiment that ZOS nerfed the nauseating rotating crux effect, so that it drops off with a timer now. Maybe if more people claimed experiencing actual physical/mental illness from the monotonous, hypnotic bobbing and flapping, they would do something about it, like make the twilight smaller, add a /hidetwilight toggle, or some other solution. Instead, they added a garish red version to have to deal with.

People, myself included have complained for years, and they have done nothing. It's shocking they did something about the Arcanist cruxes, and even there they only changed the cruces, not all the eyeburning beams.

They just add more mounts, sets, mementos, recalls and whatnot that explode into existence with big flashes and bangs. The current crate season even has a skin that explodes on.

katanagirl1

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

DewiMorgan wrote: »

I don't mind other people using them: only thing I really object to is the sea-sickness/nausea from having flapping Twilights onscreen, but that's more an accessibility issue than an aesthetic one

Enough people voiced this sentiment that ZOS nerfed the nauseating rotating crux effect, so that it drops off with a timer now. Maybe if more people claimed experiencing actual physical/mental illness from the monotonous, hypnotic bobbing and flapping, they would do something about it, like make the twilight smaller, add a /hidetwilight toggle, or some other solution. Instead, they added a garish red version to have to deal with.

People, myself included have complained for years, and they have done nothing. It's shocking they did something about the Arcanist cruxes, and even there they only changed the cruces, not all the eyeburning beams.

They just add more mounts, sets, mementos, recalls and whatnot that explode into existence with big flashes and bangs. The current crate season even has a skin that explodes on.

I thought they did turn down the brightness of the Fatecarver beam because other player’s beams don’t look as bright as the one on my character. Luckily that is not something that bothers me but I agree that a lot of the flashy stuff in the game is annoying. The first time I saw that void welwa mount I thought I was having a seizure. Then the same thing with the pink bubble gum recall.

whitecrow

Wolfkeks wrote: »

Didn't know that the companions react like this to polymorphs. (Now I'm wondering how Ember reacts to the werewolf lord polymorph since she dislikes wolves)

I don't know about that, but she does not care if you are an actual werewolf.