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  • Aurielle
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    Latest:
    I tried going back on console for a moment.
    Ran around Overland grabbing cloth plants and a few alchemy plants, cloth for endeavor, alchemy bonus.
    Hardly any hiccups.
    I deal ~3k damage per runeblade (explosive morph) and with max crux ~5k damage per tick on pragmatic fatecarver.
    I have arcanist on console but not on PC unfortunately.
    I decide to head to archive for a moment to hunt daedra.
    1.1.1. Recieving heavy lag spikes. Booted for loss of internet. Why? I was so stable in overland, why was Archive having problems.
    As for damage: 1k from runeblades, ~600 from base fatecarver, ~1.2k max crux fatecarver. Constantly getting stunned so fatecarver would only get up to 3 ticks out per cast. Lag didn't help.
    Why am I doing soooo much damage overland but negligible in archive?
    And due to that archive lag spikes, I'm scared to attempt a dungeon.

    Damage tooltips and floating numbers above mob heads tell you absolutely nothing about how much damage you actually do. Go to a player house that has a target dummy and deal damage against it until it dies. You’ll then get a readout in your chat box that will tell you how much damage you dealt against the dummy per second — which is a true indicator of how much damage you can deal under ideal situations against a static target.

    Also, overland mobs are completely trivial and shouldn’t be compared to IA enemies at all — or even dungeon enemies, for that matter. IA features, among other things, scaled down trial bosses with actual mechanics you need to pay attention to if you don’t have enough DPS to kill them before they execute their mechanics. IA mobs and bosses also have higher resistances to damage than overland mobs do, which is why the floating damage numbers you see in IA are lower than they are on overland mobs.
  • Necrotech_Master
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    Vulkunne wrote: »

    Ok I'm glad to hear that but to be clear, my char was not only 'stuck' in WW form, it was basically frozen in it. Meaning, no skills worked and no matter what I did could not get the WW ult timer to release me from the WW form. Other players were gracious enough to help by killing me multiples times (this was on BG but also happened once in IA) and nothing changed until I logged out and back in.

    Note that I do not use any mods for WW specifically.

    that sounds like a little bit of a different bug then, especially if it happened in a BG too

    the WW being stuck in the howl animation seems to be archive specific as ive only seen it happen when selecting a verse/vision
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014

    i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them

    feel free to stop by and use the facilities
  • Vulkunne
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    that sounds like a little bit of a different bug then, especially if it happened in a BG too

    the WW being stuck in the howl animation seems to be archive specific as ive only seen it happen when selecting a verse/vision

    Why would it necessarily be different? The WW was stuck in like a heavy attack pose. No walking anim, could not get it to do anything. That was from BG and in IA I can't remember exactly what animation it was, but it did get stuck there as well.

    There's no reason why the two incidents could not be related, although, we cannot prove that just from point of view. But there is a problem somewhere. The only reason I haven't experienced this anymore is because after the IA issue I was so frustrated -already- with IA that I just decided to quit playing WW for awhile.
    Edited by Vulkunne on September 10, 2024 4:16PM
  • Necrotech_Master
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    Vulkunne wrote: »

    Why would it necessarily be different? The WW was stuck in like a heavy attack pose. No walking anim, could not get it to do anything. That was from BG and in IA I can't remember exactly what animation it was, but it did get stuck there as well.

    There's no reason why the two incidents could not be related, although, we cannot prove that just from point of view. But there is a problem somewhere. The only reason I haven't experienced this anymore is because after the IA issue I was so frustrated -already- with IA that I just decided to quit playing WW for awhile.

    the archive bug with WW, you get stuck in the howl animation like you hit the heal, but it doesnt stop you from using any skills, moving, or light/heavy attacking, so its more of a graphical issue (it goes away if you leave WW form)

    the issue your describing where your literally stuck in WW form, you cant attack, you cant even use the ult to cancel WW and can happen in BGs sounds like a different issue entirely

    i wouldnt blame you for taking a break from WW, it definitely feels a bit weaker after the changes (though the way i play the WW is mostly in IC, which actually still works OK with the way i was set up)
    plays PC/NA
    handle @Necrotech_Master
    active player since april 2014

    i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them

    feel free to stop by and use the facilities
  • Vulkunne
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    the archive bug with WW, you get stuck in the howl animation like you hit the heal, but it doesnt stop you from using any skills, moving, or light/heavy attacking, so its more of a graphical issue (it goes away if you leave WW form)

    the issue your describing where your literally stuck in WW form, you cant attack, you cant even use the ult to cancel WW and can happen in BGs sounds like a different issue entirely

    i wouldnt blame you for taking a break from WW, it definitely feels a bit weaker after the changes (though the way i play the WW is mostly in IC, which actually still works OK with the way i was set up)

    Yeah. This isn't the thread for this but while we're on the subject, the WW form itself could use some TLC. Like how is a WW the size of an average person. :)

    C'mon now I'm drunk most of the time I play but not drunk enough to realize it looks a bit akward.
  • Joy_Division
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    I'll remind you. Origins were level 25 in level 15 gear, hardly any passives and lacking morphs and infectious claws, and lacking a lot of DK stuff. No sets. CP 340. PC NA. Mostly white and green.
    Current, level 28 in 26-28 gear, with a full set of Embershield. Werewolf maxed passives, fully morphed save infectious claws II, maxed DK passives as far as I can get, and more DK abilities and morphs acquired. Among those Molten Armaments.
    Carrying an oakensoul but can't use it because needs level 50. CP 553. PC NA. All blue or better.
    Last run as him I went greatsword only, until I ran into Cycle 4 The Mage. Had to WW up. Did much better in WW form, even though I lost my Empowered because no more molten armaments. Almost had it, if it weren't for getting DCd. Thanks for nothing akamai.

    Today, tried it on my console arcanist, DCd in Stage 1 Wave 3, only took about 30 seconds tops. Excluding the 10+ second frozen times, mostly occurring in final wave. Xbox NA.

    Anyways, it's not a gear issue as far as my levels are concerned then and now, WW DK. I was so much worse then, but could make it halfway through Arc 2 easy. Now I can't reach the first Tho'At.

    Although, with recent events the past few... months... it appears it's an issue with Akamai International.
    Perhaps I can still make it as I used to, but lag spikes are killing it.
    Makes sense. I didn't think I was lagging that much worse than I used to, until my xbox arcanist run today.
    So, until they manage to change their routing to exclude akamai from their internet route, the infinite archive, as well as some dungeons, are unplayable.

    Still level 28 after these repeated attempts in IA and slaughtering of normal dungeons such as FG?
  • JaxontheUnfortunate
    Vulkunne wrote: »

    Why would it necessarily be different? The WW was stuck in like a heavy attack pose. No walking anim, could not get it to do anything. That was from BG and in IA I can't remember exactly what animation it was, but it did get stuck there as well.

    There's no reason why the two incidents could not be related, although, we cannot prove that just from point of view. But there is a problem somewhere. The only reason I haven't experienced this anymore is because after the IA issue I was so frustrated -already- with IA that I just decided to quit playing WW for awhile.

    Ok that has happened to me before a while back though not in IA where all you had were light and heavy attacks and nothing else. Usually going into a dungeon, delve or relogging fixes it in my experience, but definitely don't go to town to sell your wares the guards get all uppity. :)
  • JaxontheUnfortunate
    Vulkunne wrote: »

    Yeah. This isn't the thread for this but while we're on the subject, the WW form itself could use some TLC. Like how is a WW the size of an average person. :)

    C'mon now I'm drunk most of the time I play but not drunk enough to realize it looks a bit akward.

    Yeah that would be nice, but think I remember reading something that once art assets hit live they don't get changed unless there is a technical issue with them, so I am not holding my breath that visually werewolf will get a facelift as it were but would definitely welcome it.
  • KaironBlackbard
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    Still level 28 after these repeated attempts in IA and slaughtering of normal dungeons such as FG?

    That's because I haven't been playing. I can hardly play ESO at all. Have you not read every comment?
    I'll repeat it for you.
    Pulling from another thread, it appears akamai international is blocking peoples packets and causing them internet issues.
    I cannot confirm that on my end, but I am having similar issues.
    My last WW attempt a few days ago was fighting the Mage. That was 1.4.3.
    Originally I started out just with my greatsword and DK skills.
    Obviously DK wasn't cutting it against the Mage, I needed a better heal. Had to wolf up.
    I nearly had the Mage, it was down to 35%, and then took a hard lag spike and got DCd. Came back and was dead.
    At least it wasn't Sail Cutter.
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