MYM! What do you think about it?

LPapirius

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I hate this event, it causes the game to lag.

It didn't used to. In fact, until a few years ago performance during MYM events actually improved.

MasterSpatula

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

I used to love this event, before Dark Convergence, Plaguebreak, and the ever-growing dominance of ballgroups and other toxic playstyles sucked all the fun from Cyrodiil for me.

And even then, I really only enjoyed the Cyrodiil portion of the event. The IC is a zone specifically designed to encourage the kinds of PVP behavior ZOS ought to be discouraging, so I find it miserable without a large and coordinated group.

DreamyLu

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

No interest, I don't participate at all, so I don't care. Egoistically, if there is a budget for changes, I would prefer that it goes to something else than that.

katanagirl1

Love, love, love this event. I see it as an easy way to farm Telvar and AP from PVP newbs. I wait all year for this event!

Jaraal wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

I usually like the event, but I particularly dislike the current PvP meta, so I will skip PvP for a couple more patches.

PvEers will be especially frustrated, since the new knockback and pull scripts are ubiquitously used in PvP. Those who dread getting ganked/zerged will experience a new, unprecedented level of exasperation, thanks to the introduction of scribing in Update 42.

Yeah, I feel like a yo-yo now all the time and constantly hear breaking glass. Lol.

Jaraal

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

I usually like the event, but I particularly dislike the current PvP meta, so I will skip PvP for a couple more patches.

PvEers will be especially frustrated, since the new knockback and pull scripts are ubiquitously used in PvP. Those who dread getting ganked/zerged will experience a new, unprecedented level of exasperation, thanks to the introduction of scribing in Update 42.

Yeah, I feel like a yo-yo now all the time and constantly hear breaking glass. Lol.

Sets and skills that reflect damage are great against Tarnished Nightmare, especially if you stack them. I've gotten multiple people to suicide on me this way, or at least damage themselves so badly that a quick burst will burn them down.

allochthons

I hate this event. I only do the PVE village dailies in Cyro and the Arena daily in IC from the relative safety of the starting platform.

I do the quests in the weeks before, and turn them in during the event. And then ignore MyM.

Bethgael

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

Other. Don't hate it, don't love it. Did it in the past, won't bother now. Takes longer than necessary because of the types of people in option 1 who keep farming 2 TV stones at a time from under 50s in IC clearly only doing the PvE quests. Making a single daily take forever for a lousy 5-6 TV stone seems stupid at best, then claiming the problem is a "skill issue" from the 47-odd no-CP lowbie up against the 50+ 1200+ CP player. /snort. (just as an example), a convo I actually had on behalf of one of my guildies about 10 minutes ago (and of course, there aren't enough higher players from our guild of the appropriate team to bodyguard the lowbie for the 30+ minutes it'd take them to finish the quest string because many of them have logged off for a few months until the economy picks up again).

If there was a general agreement from the sometimes-PvPers who only pop in to gank the lowbies it'd be okay. Otherwise, meh. Takes too long to do one simple quest.

I do, however, like dipping my toe into Cyrodiil battles with my main.

The_Boggart

I don't mind this event. I see it as a way to gain some assault and support skills for my alts. I might also enjoy dipping my PVE toe into the PVP water (but only for as long as the event lasts).

Just doing fighter's guild quests
Sometimes support main attacks by taking resources

GuuMoonRyoung

reazea wrote: »

How about ZOS limits the next PvE event to only 60-80 players participating in the event at any given time and see how that goes over? I'm serious. Why not treat the PvE community the same way they treat the PvP community?

Because pve is their bread and butter? I know when the game came out they pushed their Cyrodiil pvp campaign too hard and made it look like it would be their main focus. And what was the resutl? They had to go B2P, introduce cash shop and so on.

SeaGtGruff

I like this event. I think it helps to bring new players into playing PVP content more. Happy to help PVP newbs find their PVP feet!

LPapirius wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I hate this event, it causes the game to lag.

It didn't used to. In fact, until a few years ago performance during MYM events actually improved.

It's actually been performing pretty good for me-- only a few occurrences of sudden lag or temporary freezes so far, and most of the large-scale fights have been relatively smooth in that respect. It might be that I'm playing during "off" hours, esoecially on PC EU, but when I was on PC NA last night it was pop-locked and ran pretty smoothly.

Aurielle

I like this event. I think it helps to bring new players into playing PVP content more. Happy to help PVP newbs find their PVP feet!

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

LPapirius wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I hate this event, it causes the game to lag.

It didn't used to. In fact, until a few years ago performance during MYM events actually improved.

It's actually been performing pretty good for me-- only a few occurrences of sudden lag or temporary freezes so far, and most of the large-scale fights have been relatively smooth in that respect. It might be that I'm playing during "off" hours, esoecially on PC EU, but when I was on PC NA last night it was pop-locked and ran pretty smoothly.

This has been my experience as well. I’ve only crashed once so far, which has been an improvement from previous MYM events.

SeaGtGruff

I like this event. I think it helps to bring new players into playing PVP content more. Happy to help PVP newbs find their PVP feet!

I did experience one instance of being knocked through the world tonight-- on PC NA, in the IC sewers. I was fighting one of the patrolling bosses when he hit me and knocked through the floor. I ended up drifting downward beneath the world, then after a while I started falling and reappeared in the DC base. Since the boss wasn't far from the base, I ran back and helped another DC player kill it. And then I was promptly ganked by an AD player.

ariankentara

I hate this event. I only do the PVE village dailies in Cyro and the Arena daily in IC from the relative safety of the starting platform.

Absolutely hate this event. Obviously players know people are just trying to compete the daily quests to get their tickets so they basically spawn camp the task objectives. It's damn near impossible to do any quests in the imperial city unless your team owns the whole map and even then you've got maybe a 30% chance of completing all objectives before you're murdered. Honestly I wish they'd do away will all events that require you to participate in PvP just to earn event tickets. Or make it a solo lobby option for during events.

JustLovely

It would be the best event in ESO, if we could get into our home campaign with such crazy low population caps.

I_killed_Vivec

I don't mind this event. I see it as a way to gain some assault and support skills for my alts. I might also enjoy dipping my PVE toe into the PVP water (but only for as long as the event lasts).

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

And then I was promptly ganked by an AD player.

At which point you can either think "I hate PvP" and never join in again, or you can think "Of course I was, it's PvP!" and carry on with the fun.

I'm hopeless at PvP, I just don't pay enough attention... killed someone manning a ballista who didn't notice his health decreasing? That would be me. Took someone out while they were looking at their map? Me again. Swarmed over someone who turned a corner and ran into your zerg? Me.

Still, you gotta give it a go... I get my fair share of kills, and always think "You should be ashamed, dying to me!"

Lugaldu

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

I ignore this event.

BretonMage

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

I was initially going to ignore MYM (I did the last couple of years), but then the Deadlands Firewalker personality popped up and somehow I found myself grinding PVE quests in Cyrodiil. It's been fine. I'm not touching IC though.

Sylosi

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

I can't think of a PvP event in any other game where there is less actual PvP, that gets even worse if I narrow PvP only to that which is reasonably decent/fun/competitive.

Which highlights the actual reason Cyrodiil has so few players, the "PvP" is shockingly bad most of the time.

TechMaybeHic

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

They need to lock the campaigns that exist outside of mayhem, just before Mayhem starts to some qualifier for the accounts that always play there.

I like having some rewards, but I dislike being effectively locked out of my home campaign and pushed to a server that is lop-sided for or against me.

I generally only do Cyrodiil any other time, but have not stepped in for the event yet. Decided to do scribing over the weekend instead.

SerafinaWaterstar

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

Normally I love pvp & actually play it outside of MYM but the queues have been ridiculous (& possibly broken?)

Why should I have to wait nearly 2 hours to play a game I pay for?

Not happy. Or impressed. Do better.

darvaria

See my posts with pictures of different maps. This MYM is nothing but a giant PVDoor event.

Why don't you just create instance maps of cyro and let groups go in and PV Door against guards?

The event isn't worth playing. All it does is create 2 hour ques for GH. So, this is my break from PVP. Maybe another 2 or 3 month long break from the game again. Maybe longer.

Ingenon

I hate this event. I only do the PVE village dailies in Cyro and the Arena daily in IC from the relative safety of the starting platform.

I'm glad that folks who like PvP get to have this event once or twice a year. I'm not into PvP, so I take my Master Thief Speedy G. into Cyrodiil to do a town daily and into Imperial City to sneak around and do one district daily, for my 3 event tickets per day. And then get out of Cyrodiil/Imperial City for the rest of the day.

Araneae6537

I like this event. I think it helps to bring new players into playing PVP content more. Happy to help PVP newbs find their PVP feet!

I enjoy the event because I enjoy PvP when matches / battles are close. I do my best but I am still a potato! MYM is when more players like me, or perhaps just new to PvP in ESO queue and so I get more fun matches and even win on occasion.

I would like some adjustment to the rewards, including extra Telvar from the daily coffers. I don’t know if I’ll ever have enough for collectibles when I like to use hakeijo runes… And why are the terrier bones not in grab bags??? They were fun when introduced… how many years ago? But now inventory clutter. Ah well, it is not the main reason I participate in the event.

(Edit: Fixed typos)

sayswhoto

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

The lag was worse than I remembered. Couldn't land an Incap (NB would just spin over the target) and when I did the damage was delayed by a second. Makes it very difficult to tell if I actually got the hit or not.

fedouva

Other. The obligatory "other" option.

There's no pvp balance in this game, so I don't go there anymore.

SeaGtGruff

I like this event. I think it helps to bring new players into playing PVP content more. Happy to help PVP newbs find their PVP feet!

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

And then I was promptly ganked by an AD player.

At which point you can either think "I hate PvP" and never join in again, or you can think "Of course I was, it's PvP!" and carry on with the fun.

I'm hopeless at PvP, I just don't pay enough attention... killed someone manning a ballista who didn't notice his health decreasing? That would be me. Took someone out while they were looking at their map? Me again. Swarmed over someone who turned a corner and ran into your zerg? Me.

Still, you gotta give it a go... I get my fair share of kills, and always think "You should be ashamed, dying to me!"

Oh, don't worry, I laughed about it. In fact, I laughed all the harder because I had gotten a style page from the boss and I was standing there with my inventory open trying to see what page it was. So I was definitely asking for it!

I feel much the same way when I manage to help kill someone, or-- if the other player wasn't a stereotypical OP PvP god-- if I manage to kill someone all by myself. Seeing my name come up on their death recap screen must be like a badge of shame for them, because at best I'm definitely mediocre at PvP, and I have a difficult time trying to play competitively with a mouse and keyboard, by which I mean moving about while fighting. I suspect that most if not all dedicated PvP players use a game controller to help them to more easily fight while moving around, spinning in place, jumping, etc. I tried a game controller but just couldn't get used to it, although that was several years ago and it might be time to see if I can dig it out of storage and give it another try.

Edit: This is the one event in which I can just play event-related content all day or night and have so much fun that I have to force myself to stop for whatever reason-- so I can do my regular daily "must-do" activities in the game before the daily reset, or because I need to go to bed, etc. With all of the other events, I tend to just do the minimum needed to get my event tickets and event coffers. But with WSM I get so drawn into the fighting (in Cyrodiil) that I can play for hours and hours. I also enjoy doing one or more of the district dailies in IC, or running around the sewers fighting mobs and stationary bosses (the ones at the crossed swords icons). But I'm not nearly powerful enough or skilled enough to hold my own in PvP in IC. I'm not much better in Cyrodiil, but dying in Cyrodiil there doesn't carry the same consequences as dying in IC, so I'm better able to just throw myself into the thick of battle, knowing I'm definitely going to die, and just have a lot of fun getting into the action.

SeaGtGruff

I like this event. I think it helps to bring new players into playing PVP content more. Happy to help PVP newbs find their PVP feet!

One thing I'll say about PvP in general is that a lot of players take it really, really personally-- to a potentially unhealthy degree, in some cases. It's a game, so you should be playing it to have fun. If you kill me, there's no need to be a jerk about it. And if I kill you, there's no need to get nasty about it. We should all be able to congratulate each other for playing well, regardless of who won and who lost. You kill me, then (if I'm lucky) I kill you, and we rinse and repeat.

Sarannah

I hate this event. I only do the PVE village dailies in Cyro and the Arena daily in IC from the relative safety of the starting platform.

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

One thing I'll say about PvP in general is that a lot of players take it really, really personally-- to a potentially unhealthy degree, in some cases. It's a game, so you should be playing it to have fun. If you kill me, there's no need to be a jerk about it. And if I kill you, there's no need to get nasty about it. We should all be able to congratulate each other for playing well, regardless of who won and who lost. You kill me, then (if I'm lucky) I kill you, and we rinse and repeat.

Totally agree with what you said, but the problem is: To me it feels like other players are just wasting my time... Get ganked, have to walk/mount/zone back for a few minutes, instantly get ganked again, rinse and repeat. That is not fun at all! Taking 20 minutes to just hand in ONE quest, like what happened to me in cheydinhal today due to gankers, is not fun or rewarding at all. Just a big waste of my time.

Besides that, PvP has a much too high bar of entry. Including balance changes every other patch that can render any PvP build you make for this year's MYM useless in the next. It is just not worth it. For players that do not even want to PvP, that alone is a very high investment, both time and material-wise. As they have to research a build and then make it work, every MYM. Which often, due to skilllevel, won't work anyways. Causing this event to just become and stay a "Feed-the-gankers"-event. Which isn't fun, and should not even be called PvP.

PvP in this game is too unbalanced to push players into it. PvP needs a major overhaul to be fun for everyone, in which everyone has a fair chance to win against another player. Including the lowest skilllevel vs the highest. ZOS will probably never do this though, as those changes won't go over well with the current PvP community. (Really hope the upcoming PvP content is like this: Fair for everyone!)

Urzigurumash

I like this event. I think it helps to bring new players into playing PVP content more. Happy to help PVP newbs find their PVP feet!

You don't need a PvP build all you need is some hot oils and ballistas

I run a Hot Oil training academy in Cormount, all AD are encouraged to attend, all DC and EP are due in court for treachery against the Queen

ArchangelIsraphel

I like this event. I think it helps to bring new players into playing PVP content more. Happy to help PVP newbs find their PVP feet!

Urzigurumash wrote: »

You don't need a PvP build all you need is some hot oils and ballistas

I run a Hot Oil training academy in Cormount, all AD are encouraged to attend, all DC and EP are due in court for treachery against the Queen

You can't commit treason against a queen you never had any loyalty to. Treachery implies that there was a former allegiance which was betrayed, or that trust was broken. I don't think the queen puts much trust in EP, and we certainly don't put any trust in her