Do you feel the Fractured Glory skin embodies 10 years of adventures?

Theist_VII

Danikat wrote: »

BTW for all the people saying the 10th anniversary reward should have been a house: they gave us one of them...

Here’s the disconnect I’m seeing with people…

This poll is asking how you view the skin in relation to the achievement and has nothing to do with an anniversary.

Years after the tenth anniversary, people will get that achievement and wonder why it looks the way it does, and most likely put it on, say “All of that for this?… I’m good.” and proceed to take it right off and never put it on again, unless they ever decide to roleplay as a tar monster.

DoofusMax

I don't use skins (probably have a dozen or two sitting in collections, but have honestly never looked), so a new skin doesn't do anything for me. Lots of folks like skins and I'm certainly not going to sit back and say that it's a bad thing. I just don't use them, so a new skin is "whatevs" as far as I'm concerned.

Theist_VII

I would lie and say that I’m surprised… but I’m not.

Desiato

Telos_Tim wrote: »

I would lie and say that I’m surprised… but I’m not.

I'm also not surprised so few players voted because a tiny percentage of players read the forums and most who do visit seem to do so only when they have a problem with something.

Theist_VII

Desiato wrote: »

Telos_Tim wrote: »

I would lie and say that I’m surprised… but I’m not.

I'm also not surprised so few players voted because a tiny percentage of players read the forums and most who do visit seem to do so only when they have a problem with something.

Bold of you to assume that.

The forums are a microcosm of the community, sure, know what else is? The raiding and PvP community. Yet both have received far greater rewards, for lesser activities and that’s not a problem, let people have their shinies.

Although we’re not sitting in inns chatting it up, (super cool btw, you guys rock) we’re still playing a medieval fantasy game, using outfits, and dyes, and having chose a class.

Don’t come onto a thread to try to mock players that want to be able to play their role, when you’ve been roleplaying since you left the character creation screen. 😂

Raccoonmancer

metheglyn wrote: »

I am curious what people think a skin should look like in order to represent questing.

A quest marker stamped to your forehead

Theist_VII

Raccoonmancer wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

I am curious what people think a skin should look like in order to represent questing.

A quest marker stamped to your forehead

👀 Yes. Infinitely better than a tar monster.

Desiato

Telos_Tim wrote: »

The forums are a microcosm of the community, sure, know what else is? The raiding and PvP community. Yet both have received far greater rewards, for lesser activities and that’s not a problem, let people have their shinies.

I don't agree the forums are a microcosm of the greater ESO community.

I think players are more likely to come to the forums when they have a problem than to discuss something they like, so it creates a distorted view of things.

I also think game forums are a legacy concept that have lost the relevance they had 10+ years ago. I'm saying this as a forum regular who has enjoyed discussing games in forums for as long as there have been gaming forums, starting with Bulletin Board Systems and Usenet before the first forum app which I seem to recall was ubb.

DP99

Is is supposed to represent that Elsewyr tapestry that you put together? Because, that's what it looks like.

SeaGtGruff

I don't think the skin is intended to "embody" 10 years of adventuring in TESO; it's just a reward for earning an achievement. They could have made the reward anything-- a title, an emote, a non-combat pet, etc.-- and no matter what they decided on, two things would be certain: (1) it could never "embody" something as intangible and diverse as 10 years of adventuring, and (2) some players would be happy with it while other players would not be. Although I personally don't use skins on my main characters, a lot of players do enjoy using skins, and as skins go this particular skin is kind of cool.

Theist_VII

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I don't think the skin is intended to "embody" 10 years of adventuring in TESO; it's just a reward for earning an achievement. They could have made the reward anything-- a title, an emote, a non-combat pet, etc.-- and no matter what they decided on, two things would be certain: (1) it could never "embody" something as intangible and diverse as 10 years of adventuring, and (2) some players would be happy with it while other players would not be. Although I personally don't use skins on my main characters, a lot of players do enjoy using skins, and as skins go this particular skin is kind of cool.

Could have been the title “Legend” and nothing else and people would have been happy with it.

At least I would have. It would have been something you could stick to a character without completely changing their identity.

Dojohoda

10 years of going from town to town and solving everyones problems, killing thier enemies, one might think we'd get:

Disheveled hair
Black eye
Brusies
Peg leg
Dirty dented armor
Bad attitude

spartaxoxo

Telos_Tim wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I don't think the skin is intended to "embody" 10 years of adventuring in TESO; it's just a reward for earning an achievement. They could have made the reward anything-- a title, an emote, a non-combat pet, etc.-- and no matter what they decided on, two things would be certain: (1) it could never "embody" something as intangible and diverse as 10 years of adventuring, and (2) some players would be happy with it while other players would not be. Although I personally don't use skins on my main characters, a lot of players do enjoy using skins, and as skins go this particular skin is kind of cool.

Could have been the title “Legend” and nothing else and people would have been happy with it.

At least I would have. It would have been something you could stick to a character without completely changing their identity.

I would have been unhappy with that as titles aren't something that that interesting. I feel like a mount would have been cooler but I'm excited for the skin.

Edit

Desiato wrote: »

There's people in this forum complaining about legitimate issues like being locked out of their accounts, connectivity issues and actual problems with the game that should be addressed.

Different people care about different things. It's a video game, it is meant to entertain. So, things that detract from that entertainment are all legitimate complaints.

Theist_VII

@spartaxoxo a lot to parse through there, but I’m happy that you like the skin.

While a title might have been lackluster by itself, it would have been the most versatile. Like “Legend” my example, you can be a legend of anything as long as you do it proficiently enough.

That being said, a mount would have been great to pair with the title. Imagine we got one of Honor’s parents as a mount, and it was a huge bantam guar? Like that would have been awesome!

That instantly would have been recognizable!

To recognize someone with this skin, they can’t be hiding parts of their head, or wearing any armor or clothes anywhere the gold veins would be.

Also want to say thanks for having my back earlier. People don’t realize how condescending they can be for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

SpiritKitten

We should have gotten a title at the very least, not a skin I will never wear. A house would have been cool, but definitely should have a title.

peacenote

The OP asked three questions, which all have different answers, to me.

Do you feel the Fractured Glory skin embodies 10 years of adventures?

For me?
Maybe? Probably? I think I need to see it in game, but, while I think "embodiment" might look different for everyone, I think I likely will associate it with that, especially due to the Kintsugi idea and the more literal, obvious "many gold roads," just because of the intent... in that this is what is being released for that idea (10 years of adventures), so now I will feel like it does. Also, I like what appears to be a deep amount of thought put into the symbolism of it. Even the literal interpretation is decent - many roads through many adventures. And when I think about the stories, the Vestige had failures as well as successes

(I believe it was Blackwood where we were just a little too late to save so many people I was beginning to wonder if we would save anyone)

which seems to align well with the Kintsugi concept. We still save the day even when we make mistakes or get fooled by an NPC, which happens in various stories.

For everyone?

I think it would be impossible for ZOS to have come up with something which would have done this for everyone, such that I really can't begin to say, although a lot of people seem to be interpreting the question as "for everyone" in the responses. All I can say is that the thought that went into the symbolism, assuming the theory is right, makes it feel like it could, though.

Does this make you feel as though your 10 years of questing is appreciated?

Yes, I think the effort spent to come up with a valuable and thoughtful reward does give me this feeling. Between the fact that skins are often considered both "bragging rights" rewards and harder to come by, I think it shows good consideration for the player base and frequent feedback about in game rewards. Better than a pet or a dye or a house or housing related item. And mounts are more common.

Does it make you want to go out and complete the achievement if you have yet to?

Not sure if I have or not, but definitely. I try to do everything, so an achievement that rewards a collectible is high on my list. Doesn't matter whether I'll use it a lot or not; it's the goal of obtaining it that is fun to me.

And there seems to be multiple implied or related questions --

Do you like the skin?

Well, that's a whole different kettle of fish. I REALLY need time with it in game to conclude that. My instinct is that I won't love it, because I am tired of skins that blank out the eyes, and skins that completely hide the look of your character. Also we seem to get more dark ones than light ones, and more brassy ones that subtle ones... I want more of the latter. But even if I don't love it, or even like it, I'm sure I'll find use for it on some character, for at least one outfit, and I always like adding to my variety of options and I like getting new skins. Therefore I still like the reward even if I don't love the reward, if that makes sense!

Would you have preferred something else?

I think not. While I dabble in housing, it's not a primary focus for me. I think a dye wouldn't be as iconic. I have more pets than I could ever need, and mounts. I still enjoy getting new skins. So I'm happy with the choice there.

Theist_VII

@peacenote thanks for the thoughtful response!
I’m glad this skin does it for you.

Cazador

It's a tough question for me. I'm just going to wait and see if I like it on my characters.

If I'm being honest I don't really envy zos trying to come up with rewards for this. It's probably pretty difficult to come up with something they think most people will like.

evymyu233

i will never use it,it looks ugly.

blktauna

It fairly accurately shows how my heart looks now since it has been shattered over the years from all their crap decisions

Grec1a

The kintsugi thing is kind of a sweet idea, but I'm not sure it fits too well with a medieval fantasy game in a European/Roman/Arabian setting with its own extensive lore. Why pick something from Japanese culture?

I don't know what skins already exist in game - I've only been playing for just over a year, and I don't use or collect skins - but even making this red instead of black, so it resembles Red Mountain, would've had more meaning in the context of Elder Scrolls. Or maybe a metallic skin to honour Pelinal Whitestrake, the futuristic cyborg? A golden glowing skin in memory of Meridia's help in defeating Molag Bal? A red crystalline skin to symbolise the Amulet of Kings?

I'm sure others can think up much better ideas than these. And wouldn't that have been a great way to boost player engagement: by having a competition to design the 10th Anniversary skin, with the player base choosing the winner...?

SeaGtGruff

Okay, I didn't know about the idea that the skin is supposed to represent, so I'm going to change my vote from Neither to Yes.

LannStone

As a marker of my years in ESO, I'd rather have that bright red dye that comes with the achievement that I'll never get because I play solo

Grizzbeorn

DP99 wrote: »

Is is supposed to represent that Elsewyr tapestry that you put together? Because, that's what it looks like.

@DP99
I don't think it is supposed to specifically represent THAT one tapestry from one zone in the game, but the fragments of the tapestry we were tasked with finding were sewn back together to remake the whole using gold thread, which is a direct correlation to the same actual real-life Japanese Kintsugi philosophy that people are ascribing to this achievement skin.

Mesite

I'm not focussed enough to get this achievement. I like to just log on, find evil clanfear creatures, wipe them out, go have tea.

ZOS_Volpe

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Theist_VII

Mesite wrote: »

I'm not focussed enough to get this achievement. I like to just log on, find evil clanfear creatures, wipe them out, go have tea.

When I read this I was drinking…

Instantly this made me think of that Clannfear thread from @SilverBride. 😂

Dracane

Absolutely not. It's rather appalling, dare I say.
They could have chosen a reward that everyone would be likely to find use in. Perhaps a crafting style, so everyone has a chance to find 1 piece they like. Skins are already a dealbreaker for me and many other people who prefer to keep our characters pure.

shadyjane62

It ugly and I would never use it.

Dracane

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

I believe I understand the philosophy of Kintsugi. I can think of nothing more appropriate than this skin to symbolise the Vestige's 10 year journey from the Wailing Prison to the here and now of ESO. I will be using this skin in my RP with that philosophy in mind.

ZoS assumes I am broken or close to breaking, and the skin is supposed to represent this. Frankly, it's quite insulting even. The only thing that breaks you is the combat and balance decisions, but then they put you together again, when your dead class gets resurrected 2 years later and all is good for a while.

Rolling over mobs and story bosses for 10 years equal more a walk in the park. Hardly a prostration, for one of my gifts.