Repair costs

chaosngn_ESO

Am I the only one who feels repair costs are way out of line?

Last night I got into a situation where I couldn't even teleport due to repair costs. I was literally down to 3g.

I'm okay with repair costs, but they seem to be a bit ridiculous.

nerevarine1138

I haven't had any trouble getting gold. I'm at level 13, with 5k gold, and this is after getting the first two bank and bag expansions.

Zagadka

I think the cash income is sufficiently balanced. You do have to resist buying stuff early on (you level out of it very quickly).

That said, I feel like the quest rewards are really... stupid. They don't even make an effort to match your class, so you end up with completely useless loot.

BmcD73

Then you haven't had a 1k repair bill yet. Spending 1/5 of your wealth at level 13 is too much. Especially when your intro horse costs 17k. I had a technical problem yesterday where I was falling infinately in the clouds. The only thing I could do is /stuck which damaged my gear. That didn't work. So I did it again. Damaged my gear. Didn't work and damaged my gear. I guess third time's a charm because it worked but guess what? Damaged my gear. Then we tried the first group dungeon and wiped like 50 times. Each of us had about a 1k repair bill.

I've been able to live with my mangled gear until the next even level where I can make new stuff. Either the durability or the cost of repair to be adjusted.

chaosngn_ESO

This ^

After hours of questing and obtaining 1500 gold, spending 800 of it on repair is not what I see as fun or balanced.

Ellorra

We talked about an issue last night with repairs in Cyrodiil. If you take PVE damage while doing a quest or a Dark Anchor in Cyrodiil, do not repair there. It will cost you level 50 costs to repair. If you port out of Cyrodill, log off and then log back in before you repair or it will still think you are level 50 and charge you accordingly.

DMuehlhausen

BmcD73 wrote: »

Then you haven't had a 1k repair bill yet. Spending 1/5 of your wealth at level 13 is too much. Especially when your intro horse costs 17k. I had a technical problem yesterday where I was falling infinately in the clouds. The only thing I could do is /stuck which damaged my gear. That didn't work. So I did it again. Damaged my gear. Didn't work and damaged my gear. I guess third time's a charm because it worked but guess what? Damaged my gear. Then we tried the first group dungeon and wiped like 50 times. Each of us had about a 1k repair bill.

I've been able to live with my mangled gear until the next even level where I can make new stuff. Either the durability or the cost of repair to be adjusted.

Ok, but you are talking about a bug costing you to much. That is not a valid way to decide if it's to expensive.

I have almost 2k gold at level 12 and have no issues with money at all. The type of loot you get is stupid since you can't choose what you want, just sell that item though and that is more money.

chaosngn_ESO

Wow. That's good to know. Thanks for passing that along. But, the primary problem is outside of Cyrodil. You are spending half or more of what you've made on repairs.

JunkyardWolf

chaosngn_ESO wrote: »

Wow. That's good to know. Thanks for passing that along. But, the primary problem is outside of Cyrodil. You are spending half or more of what you've made on repairs.

If your spending that much maybe don't die so often? That's the only time my armor takes a significant hit.

nerevarine1138

JunkyardWolf wrote: »

If your spending that much maybe don't die so often? That's the only time my armor takes a significant hit.

Have to agree. The highest repair bill I've seen was 200-300 gold.

TerraDewBerry

I think the repair costs are way over the top.

chaosngn_ESO

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

JunkyardWolf wrote: »

If your spending that much maybe don't die so often? That's the only time my armor takes a significant hit.

Have to agree. The highest repair bill I've seen was 200-300 gold.

Then I'm guessing you haven't done dungeons, public dungeons, or very difficult content just yet. You will see what some of us are talking about eventually.

nerevarine1138

chaosngn_ESO wrote: »

Then I'm guessing you haven't done dungeons, public dungeons, or very difficult content just yet. You will see what some of us are talking about eventually.

Ah. No, that's not the thing. See, I don't die that much. I think that's my problem.

chaosngn_ESO

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

chaosngn_ESO wrote: »

Then I'm guessing you haven't done dungeons, public dungeons, or very difficult content just yet. You will see what some of us are talking about eventually.

Ah. No, that's not the thing. See, I don't die that much. I think that's my problem.

Well, for those of us pushing the more difficult content, it's an issue.

greymist2000

i find that if i make everything i use/equip it helps me save money for things later on 6k lvl 7

nerevarine1138

chaosngn_ESO wrote: »

Well, for those of us pushing the more difficult content, it's an issue.

Again, I'm doing that stuff. I'm just not dying.

LoreRunner

Ran multiple dungeons as tank (lots of damage and death for me) and still only ever had a repair bill of around 400g. That was with almost all of my armor being down to 1-3 / max. Note that if you crafted your own gear that you could always just break it or sell it and then craft yourself your gear again (or exchange it for better gear that you found). I have also only repaired about 3 or 4 times since Sunday. Most of the time my gear gets halfway dead and I have already out-leveled it so much that I should have exchanged it anyways.

As for the /stuck issue. Have you tried taking the gear off before using /stuck to get out of the issue?

DenverRalphy

chaosngn_ESO wrote: »

Last night I got into a situation where I couldn't even teleport due to repair costs. I was literally down to 3g.

Teleporting is free if you use a wayshrine to initiate the teleport. Only costs you money if you teleport to a wayshrine from your map.

BlackSparrow

I agree it's a bit frustrating. I have lost so much durability because of being kicked mid-fight or /stuck or a boss fight not completing correctly (I'm looking at you, Balreth ). However, being smart with your money and gear helps tons at earlier levels. Don't break down/research until you can afford it. Don't buy weapons and potions; make them! When you're out in the world, actively look for chests and sellable resourceslike jute and iron. I'm at 3k even with repair costs, so it is manageable. Just keep in mind that most of us are early level, yet. We're supposed to start low on resources and work our way up.

Kemono

Few tips for repair cost being to high:
Just DONT REPAIR STUFF at NPC

If you need to use /stuck - go nekid first << no equipment damage
If your equipment is heavy damaged (like 75-95%) deconstruct it, and craft new gear of same quality. Taht way you only pay for racial stones (if you dont have some stashed)

IF you have a good item you want to keep (like blue rarity, or good quest reward) -repair it using Repair Kits, not NPC repair option.
Kits are sold at most "General" type merchants.
Kits price is like 1/4 -1/8 of repair cost of highly dameged good items

Jasstenn

Stop dying so much, repairing wont be as costly... try using Provisioning or Potions to augment your health or whatever is causing you to die so much, or maybe you need to revisit your gear.

Yankee

Zagadka wrote: »

I think the cash income is sufficiently balanced. You do have to resist buying stuff early on (you level out of it very quickly).

That said, I feel like the quest rewards are really... stupid. They don't even make an effort to match your class, so you end up with completely useless loot.

Even without dying, as melee I do notice repair costs.

As far as loot, you can vendor or deconstruct for crafting points so it is not all bad.

YourNameHere

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

I haven't had any trouble getting gold. I'm at level 13, with 5k gold, and this is after getting the first two bank and bag expansions.

May i enquire how? Did you sell things you found in regards to armor and weapons?

I'm level 10 and I never get over 500g. I do not buy anything I need, as I make it. I do all quests I find. I'm stumped!

Hadria

Lvl 12 here not seen over 500 in repairs yet. I don't die that often either.

Seraseth

I'm level 10 and bought 2 bag expansions and 1 bank upgrade and have a little over 1000g. I've never bought a single item, and I haven't sold any item that wasn't vendor trash or ornate, I break it all up and hoard it for my crafters. I also open every single shelf, basket, dresser, etc that I find, sell duplicate recipes, and turn all the provisioning ingredients into food then sell that.

pokebreaker

YourNameHere wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

I haven't had any trouble getting gold. I'm at level 13, with 5k gold, and this is after getting the first two bank and bag expansions.

May i enquire how? Did you sell things you found in regards to armor and weapons?

I'm level 10 and I never get over 500g. I do not buy anything I need, as I make it. I do all quests I find. I'm stumped!

I'm level 13 or 14, and I have about 8k-9k banked (saving for the entry-level mount). I have only repaired my gear maybe twice. I usually end up with upgraded gear before it gets completely broken, so I just swap out and sell/deconstruct. So really, the extra income will probably come at a slight cost to crafting progression. Low level white and green items are valuable to sell. I was also farming the PvP zone repeatable quest to kill 20 players, which is being patched once the servers come back up.

Bloodsip

Seraseth wrote: »

I'm level 10 and bought 2 bag expansions and 1 bank upgrade and have a little over 1000g. I've never bought a single item, and I haven't sold any item that wasn't vendor trash or ornate, I break it all up and hoard it for my crafters. I also open every single shelf, basket, dresser, etc that I find, sell duplicate recipes, and turn all the provisioning ingredients into food then sell that.

This is me exactly. Except I am lvl 14

nerevarine1138

YourNameHere wrote: »

May i enquire how? Did you sell things you found in regards to armor and weapons?

I'm level 10 and I never get over 500g. I do not buy anything I need, as I make it. I do all quests I find. I'm stumped!

Mostly what other people said. I don't die often. I sell any equipment that has the "sell to vendor for more" trait, and I open everything. I mainly cook food to sell it at this point, and I pick up recipes I don't know to sell them. Also jewelry; can't help with crafting, so sell it.

Katrisa

I don't die at all, but using crafted gear my level nets REALLY high repair costs. I faced a 500g repair cost today at level 9 with only 2000 gold. This was with my gear half worn. It was insane. If I wanted to cough up the repair supplied I could easily replace that gear for less than the repair cost (what the ?!).

So yes repair costs are way too high at lower levels. They are completely out of line. Enough so that I filed a bug on this issue today.

Katrisa

I recommend others file a bug on repairs costs as well. This will make it more difficult for development to ignore the issue.

Side note I do "have" enough money but I feel like I'm having to spend carefully to actually have any due to the design of the system (which is a poor design IMO)

Granz

I agree they are out of line. Getting the 1k repair bill really is a kick you know where. Try doing an instance and dieing a bunch and getting the bill. It's way too high.