PC players, Do you use Add-ons?

AcadianPaladin · February 7

Yes

Baertram wrote: »

No

@Baertram I spat my coffee when I read that! Thanks for the chuckle this morning!

notyuu · February 7

Yes

Yep, for many reasons, but the main one is I like my inventory being easily readable, like this

Auto Category - Revised + PerfectPixel

instead of a bloated mess like this

KiltMaster · February 7

Yes I use waaaaaaaayyyyy too many. They are very helpful tho. Some of the UI is just straight up barely functional without addons. Once you use Awesomeguildstore, you won't go back !

metheglyn · February 7

Yes

I use mini-map and map pins.

Mini-map because I get lost way too easily and map pins because, well, those treasure map sketches are too vague for me to decipher and I don't really enjoy the scavenger hunt gameplay for the zone collections (like the Orsinium museum).

Ragnork · February 7

Yes

Yes
"Clock" - Puts the ingame and real world time on screen in the top left corner
Map Pins - for lore books, skyshards etc
Trait Buddy - so I can see who and what is being researched

Sadly they are no longer maintained and so I suspect I will end up just having "clock".

Grizzbeorn · February 7

KaosWarMonk wrote: »

I personally do not like mods that high-light resources in game, that's a step too far, you should need to actually look for these things IMO.

There's no reason to use such a mod (unless you're using a mod to avoid using skill-points), because every resource skill-line has an option that does that very thing ("Keen Eye").

And maybe you've never tried to do a Clothing Survey on Amenos, in the middle of the jungle ground-foliage, and had difficulty finding all six nodes. I purposely never used the Keen Eye options before that, but now I do.

Paramedicus · February 7

Yes

PC players, Do you use Add-ons?

is there any other way?

ghastley · February 7

Yes

I have stopped using a few add-ons when the same functions became available in the base game, which is possibly the intent of the system. It provides a good testing ground for that functionality.

Many of them just give you a few more options of how to do the same thing, that would be hard to provide as settings. Choosing an add-on is a more flexible method than the complex combinations of toggles and adjustments if one UI had to serve all tastes.

Elvenheart · February 7

Yes

Ragnork wrote: »

Yes
"Clock" - Puts the ingame and real world time on screen in the top left corner
Map Pins - for lore books, skyshards etc
Trait Buddy - so I can see who and what is being researched

Sadly they are no longer maintained and so I suspect I will end up just having "clock".

I believe Votan’s Minimap adds the clock feature as well. At least I think that’s the one I use 🙂

Varana · February 7

Yes

It's an Elder Scrolls game. If you're not using mods, you're playing it wrong.

dk_dunkirk · February 7

Elsonso wrote: »

I play on both console and PC, and my opinion is that it is not possible to play more than casually on console. Just about everything that is interesting to do in this game is improved by one addon or another.

It makes this guy's achievement that much more impressive. https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/17fd2zc/i_finally_completed_100_achievements_59465_points/

emilyhyoyeon · February 7

No

I used to use some of them like untaunted but I stopped caring.

LadyLethalla · February 7

Yes

Ex console player. I wouldn't go back.

FabresFour · February 7

Yes

Well, I work on the game's translation addon into Brazilian Portuguese. I believe this is considered an addon LOL - EsoBR - Tradução Português (for some players it is also seen as a necessity).

Also, I really like immersion mods.
Examples: using the character's camera in first person even on the mount.

As I work in a translation, I like to use some addons to track the quests, to correct them manually, one by one. Therefore, I use addons like Questing Guide, the Journal Quest Log and addons like these.

I've been playing ESO since 2013 (beta test), and because of that, I ended up getting tired of the same game interface. Recently, I installed interface addons that make it relatively more similar to the Skyrim interface, such as SkyrimStyleUI and SkylikeDialog.

SkylikeDialog, in particular, allows you to control the camera while NPCs talk to you. This greatly improved my gaming experience. There are alternatives, such as N'takDialog. I ended up preferring SkylikeDialog because of the interface distribution.

When an NPC talks about the mountains behind my back, for example, I can press the right button and simply look at my back -
Also, because I started doing streams, it makes them a little more interesting during questing. I can change the camera while the NPC speaks to make it more dynamic, I can use emotes to make the conversation seem more alive. Anyway, I found an incredible addon for those looking for immersion.

for example, here I left the camera behind the NPC, while I talk to her.

The only problem is that some NPCs don't turn to the character to speak, so the ideal is to always stop right in front of them. Furthermore, I particularly like the distribution of the text at the bottom of the screen.

And finally, there are addons that are mandatory for me. Essential Housing Tools allows me to visit the homes of thousands of players doing amazing work.

Tamriel Trade Centre greatly improves the buying and selling of items and goods, as well as allowing me to see the market value of everything I collect.

Castagere · February 7

Yes

I only use the Map Pins addon.

Robvenom · February 7

Yes

Sarannah wrote: »

No, they completely change the ESO experience into a spreadsheet/UI clutter instead of a game.

Also, I do consider some add-ons cheats, as they offer a clear advantage over other players who are not using add-ons. Like the ones that show resource nodes, treasure chests, thieves troves, and other locations. The ones that auto-repair/autocharge weapons and such. And many more. which are a clear advantage over other players without add-ons. I also consider some add-ons forms of botting, like the crafting writ add-ons. And feel ZOS should not allow that, as they are basically removing crafting as a specific part of the game for players to enjoy/specialize in. They would never allow the same automation add-ons for dungeons/trials/PvP/arena's, but somehow they allow it in this one specific part of the game.

In my opinion, which most players disagree with, ZOS should remove ALL add-ons from the game completely. At the very least ZOS should remove all add-ons that grant advantages over other players(no matter how small), and all add-ons from PvP completely.

PS: It's ok to disagree with me!
PPS: I'm not against adding some basic add-on functionality to the base game, as that would be a level playing field for everyone still.

I knew someone would post this. There is always at least one.

MageCatF4F · February 7

Yes

I use one: EHT. Apparently, I cheat at housing.

Carcamongus · February 7

Yes

I played for many years without addons and only installed my first because it was necessary to manage a guild's roster. After that, more came, but still very few. Some just compensate for something that should already be in the game, such as enhanced chat (I like being able to see both @name and toon's name, plus guildmates' levels, classes and alliances), minimap (can't function without that anymore), and CompanionInfo (must keep that rapport a spotless 5500). Some are useful tools, such as HarvestMap or TTC.

I like to use few addons, it keeps things simple.

WiseSky · February 7

Yes

@FabresFour SO SkylikeDialog works again !

I might have to put it the List of Immersion Addons

WiseSky · February 7

Yes

Sarannah wrote: »

No, they completely change the ESO experience into a spreadsheet/UI clutter instead of a game.

Also, I do consider some add-ons cheats, as they offer a clear advantage over other players who are not using add-ons. Like the ones that show resource nodes, treasure chests, thieves troves, and other locations. The ones that auto-repair/autocharge weapons and such. And many more. which are a clear advantage over other players without add-ons. I also consider some add-ons forms of botting, like the crafting writ add-ons. And feel ZOS should not allow that, as they are basically removing crafting as a specific part of the game for players to enjoy/specialize in. They would never allow the same automation add-ons for dungeons/trials/PvP/arena's, but somehow they allow it in this one specific part of the game.

In my opinion, which most players disagree with, ZOS should remove ALL add-ons from the game completely. At the very least ZOS should remove all add-ons that grant advantages over other players(no matter how small), and all add-ons from PvP completely.

PS: It's ok to disagree with me!
PPS: I'm not against adding some basic add-on functionality to the base game, as that would be a level playing field for everyone still.

I really hope you don't win 1 trillion dollars and buy out Microsoft in order to make your opinion a reality.

Vaqual · February 8

No

TaSheen · February 8

Yes

WiseSky wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

No, they completely change the ESO experience into a spreadsheet/UI clutter instead of a game.

Also, I do consider some add-ons cheats, as they offer a clear advantage over other players who are not using add-ons. Like the ones that show resource nodes, treasure chests, thieves troves, and other locations. The ones that auto-repair/autocharge weapons and such. And many more. which are a clear advantage over other players without add-ons. I also consider some add-ons forms of botting, like the crafting writ add-ons. And feel ZOS should not allow that, as they are basically removing crafting as a specific part of the game for players to enjoy/specialize in. They would never allow the same automation add-ons for dungeons/trials/PvP/arena's, but somehow they allow it in this one specific part of the game.

In my opinion, which most players disagree with, ZOS should remove ALL add-ons from the game completely. At the very least ZOS should remove all add-ons that grant advantages over other players(no matter how small), and all add-ons from PvP completely.

PS: It's ok to disagree with me!
PPS: I'm not against adding some basic add-on functionality to the base game, as that would be a level playing field for everyone still.

I really hope you don't win 1 trillion dollars and buy out Microsoft in order to makes your opinion a reality.

Agreed. Serious.

SilverBride · February 8

Yes

If add-ons were cheats they wouldn't be allowed...

But they are allowed...

So they aren't cheats.

TybaltKaine · February 8

Yes

It took me a very long time to start using them after I migrated from Xbox, but once I did I never looked back. Granted I only run like 10 or so and they are all map, quest log/immersion or UI related. Still, I try to hop on console every now and then and it is a struggle because I've come to rely on those simple QOL changes so much.

Not having nodes on the map, not having a content release order quest guide and not having Bandits UI/ Beam me up is not a fun time.

TheMajority · February 8

Yes

Sarannah wrote: »

No, they completely change the ESO experience into a spreadsheet/UI clutter instead of a game.

Also, I do consider some add-ons cheats, as they offer a clear advantage over other players who are not using add-ons. Like the ones that show resource nodes, treasure chests, thieves troves, and other locations. The ones that auto-repair/autocharge weapons and such. And many more. which are a clear advantage over other players without add-ons. I also consider some add-ons forms of botting, like the crafting writ add-ons. And feel ZOS should not allow that, as they are basically removing crafting as a specific part of the game for players to enjoy/specialize in. They would never allow the same automation add-ons for dungeons/trials/PvP/arena's, but somehow they allow it in this one specific part of the game.

In my opinion, which most players disagree with, ZOS should remove ALL add-ons from the game completely. At the very least ZOS should remove all add-ons that grant advantages over other players(no matter how small), and all add-ons from PvP completely.

PS: It's ok to disagree with me!
PPS: I'm not against adding some basic add-on functionality to the base game, as that would be a level playing field for everyone still.

Crafting is more enjoyable with add ons because it is streamlined. Flipping through menu manually does not give you more skill at crafting than a player who uses an add on to automate the process.

You can still enjoy crafting without add ons. No one is keeping you from doing this.

I do not see how anyone is kept from "specializing" in crafting, since players would still craft and it would not be unique, even if add ons were removed from the game. Players who have obtained the ability to craft high level writs would still do so even without add ons. Players who can craft gear and sell it would still do so even without add ons. The removal of add ons would not mean you could specialize in crafting.

The game becomes like living in a spreadsheet with manual crafting. It is clunky. Add ons bring much needed QOL to an outdated system.

Add ons also help people who need them for accessibility reasons. Vision impairment that makes it hard to read, for example, is an issue when reading craft menu's for some. These addons help those with such a problem.

Zodiarkslayer · February 8

Yes

Combat metrics and ability duration timer have improved my combat, significantly so.

Ph1p · February 8

Yes

WiseSky wrote: »

I really hope you don't win 1 trillion dollars and buy out Microsoft in order to make your opinion a reality.

Don’t worry, Microsoft’s market capitalization is 3 trillion dollars right now

Although they would definitely and happily sell them ESO for 1 trillion

Oznog666 · February 8

Yes

Can not imagine playing the game without mini map, lazy writ crafter and some more things like this.

Sarannah · February 8

No

Shara_Wynn wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

No, they completely change the ESO experience into a spreadsheet/UI clutter instead of a game.

Also, I do consider some add-ons cheats, as they offer a clear advantage over other players who are not using add-ons. Like the ones that show resource nodes, treasure chests, thieves troves, and other locations. The ones that auto-repair/autocharge weapons and such. And many more. which are a clear advantage over other players without add-ons. I also consider some add-ons forms of botting, like the crafting writ add-ons. And feel ZOS should not allow that, as they are basically removing crafting as a specific part of the game for players to enjoy/specialize in. They would never allow the same automation add-ons for dungeons/trials/PvP/arena's, but somehow they allow it in this one specific part of the game.

In my opinion, which most players disagree with, ZOS should remove ALL add-ons from the game completely. At the very least ZOS should remove all add-ons that grant advantages over other players(no matter how small), and all add-ons from PvP completely.

PS: It's ok to disagree with me!
PPS: I'm not against adding some basic add-on functionality to the base game, as that would be a level playing field for everyone still.

You are free to use whatever addons you like, not my problem if you decide not to and beeing disadvantaged over other players in your opinion.

Addons just make the whole game experience much more comfortable and fun to play. Why would you spend your lifetime on useless, timeconsuming tasks like repairing your gear, doing your crafting dailies, fillet whole stacks of fishes fish by fish (ok that got added to the game lately finally), looking for hours trough guild stores to find prices for an item you want to sell and so on? If youre on PC and not using addons, your basically denying functions which make the game a lot more fun to play and less time consuming with the same outcome.

I dont understand. I never will. Its just dumb if you ask me. But its your decision. If ZOS would ever remove addons, which i dont think will ever be the case, i will stop playing the game and probably 80% of the player base would too.

I don't think they thought it was anyone's problem, that they didn't use add-ons or that others did. I also don't think it is fair to say that anything anyone chooses to do or not do is dumb, just because you happen not to agree with it.

I also think some of the add-ons are a little bit cheat-ish. "Writworthy" is one for sure, and perhaps "map pins" and "harvest map" but I do still use them as for me, I would rather spend my time questing than doing crafting, but that is just my experience and for others, some genuinely like crafting and harvesting. Each to their own.

It's ok, I knew players would disagree with me. And I respect that opinion.
I have nothing against players who do use add-ons, nor would I want players to completely stop using add-ons. The only thing I want is a fair playing field for every ESO player. So I only want add-ons gone/removed that add advantages over other players, or for the 'unfair' functionality to be added to the base game.

Players do seem to only look at the good side of add-ons, namely the advantages/QoL they grant. But there is also a major darkside to add-ons:
-1: Hacking: if someone plants a virus in an add-on, or the program that updates add-ons, their account can be heavily impacted. Doesn't even have to be the add-on maker, it could also be the website that hosts the add-ons.
-2: If one of the add-on creators, strangers basically, decides to add a function that whenever you log in it automatically mails all your gold/materials to them. There would be nothing anyone could do.
-3: Bugs/errors: On this forum players often post bugs/errors which aren't base game, and blame ZOS for the issue. While the issue is with a certain add-on.
-4: Functionality: Some players have no clue what add-ons even do, before installing them. For example when ZOS added a new color recall, and players were complaining ZOS didn't change the blue beam too. Which was actually a function done by an add-on. And this is just one example.
-5: Having to keep add-ons up-to-date every time ZOS releases a patch/content.
-6: Asking for QoL updates to ESO is often negatively impacted, as some players do not realize the base game needs a certain QoL, due to that feature already being available in an add-on. This also impacts non-PC players/non add-on players, and totally removes any sense of urgency to ZOS for that QoL to be implemented. For example: any master writ QoL(not the daily writs), add-on users can do hundreds at a time.
-7: The UI becomes more bloated/bigger, and numbers are more focussed on. To me this removes the element of fun from the game, as the focus becomes too much on those numbers and on those UI functions. Instead of on the on-screen goals one is trying to achieve in the game.

Just my thoughts.

WiseSky wrote: »

I really hope you don't win 1 trillion dollars and buy out Microsoft in order to make your opinion a reality.

Uhhm, I really do hope I win one trillion dollars. There's so much good I could do with that type of money. But I wouldn't buy ESO(or Microsoft) to be honest, so do not worry about that too much.

Hypothetically: If I were to buy ESO, I still wouldn't remove add-ons completely. As I know there are many add-ons that are only for personal preferences/likings(for example: that skyrim dialog add-on someone posted about seems really cool). However, I would temporarily disable all advantageous add-ons until that functionality could be added to the base game. My only ask/goal is a fair playingfield for everyone, which shouldn't even be in question.

Here's to hoping I actually do win a trillion dollars!

Braffin · February 8

Yes

Sarannah wrote: »

Shara_Wynn wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

No, they completely change the ESO experience into a spreadsheet/UI clutter instead of a game.

Also, I do consider some add-ons cheats, as they offer a clear advantage over other players who are not using add-ons. Like the ones that show resource nodes, treasure chests, thieves troves, and other locations. The ones that auto-repair/autocharge weapons and such. And many more. which are a clear advantage over other players without add-ons. I also consider some add-ons forms of botting, like the crafting writ add-ons. And feel ZOS should not allow that, as they are basically removing crafting as a specific part of the game for players to enjoy/specialize in. They would never allow the same automation add-ons for dungeons/trials/PvP/arena's, but somehow they allow it in this one specific part of the game.

In my opinion, which most players disagree with, ZOS should remove ALL add-ons from the game completely. At the very least ZOS should remove all add-ons that grant advantages over other players(no matter how small), and all add-ons from PvP completely.

PS: It's ok to disagree with me!
PPS: I'm not against adding some basic add-on functionality to the base game, as that would be a level playing field for everyone still.

You are free to use whatever addons you like, not my problem if you decide not to and beeing disadvantaged over other players in your opinion.

Addons just make the whole game experience much more comfortable and fun to play. Why would you spend your lifetime on useless, timeconsuming tasks like repairing your gear, doing your crafting dailies, fillet whole stacks of fishes fish by fish (ok that got added to the game lately finally), looking for hours trough guild stores to find prices for an item you want to sell and so on? If youre on PC and not using addons, your basically denying functions which make the game a lot more fun to play and less time consuming with the same outcome.

I dont understand. I never will. Its just dumb if you ask me. But its your decision. If ZOS would ever remove addons, which i dont think will ever be the case, i will stop playing the game and probably 80% of the player base would too.

I don't think they thought it was anyone's problem, that they didn't use add-ons or that others did. I also don't think it is fair to say that anything anyone chooses to do or not do is dumb, just because you happen not to agree with it.

I also think some of the add-ons are a little bit cheat-ish. "Writworthy" is one for sure, and perhaps "map pins" and "harvest map" but I do still use them as for me, I would rather spend my time questing than doing crafting, but that is just my experience and for others, some genuinely like crafting and harvesting. Each to their own.

It's ok, I knew players would disagree with me. And I respect that opinion.
I have nothing against players who do use add-ons, nor would I want players to completely stop using add-ons. The only thing I want is a fair playing field for every ESO player. So I only want add-ons gone/removed that add advantages over other players, or for the 'unfair' functionality to be added to the base game.

Players do seem to only look at the good side of add-ons, namely the advantages/QoL they grant. But there is also a major darkside to add-ons:
-1: Hacking: if someone plants a virus in an add-on, or the program that updates add-ons, their account can be heavily impacted. Doesn't even have to be the add-on maker, it could also be the website that hosts the add-ons.
-2: If one of the add-on creators, strangers basically, decides to add a function that whenever you log in it automatically mails all your gold/materials to them. There would be nothing anyone could do.
-3: Bugs/errors: On this forum players often post bugs/errors which aren't base game, and blame ZOS for the issue. While the issue is with a certain add-on.
-4: Functionality: Some players have no clue what add-ons even do, before installing them. For example when ZOS added a new color recall, and players were complaining ZOS didn't change the blue beam too. Which was actually a function done by an add-on. And this is just one example.
-5: Having to keep add-ons up-to-date every time ZOS releases a patch/content.
-6: Asking for QoL updates to ESO is often negatively impacted, as some players do not realize the base game needs a certain QoL, due to that feature already being available in an add-on. This also impacts non-PC players/non add-on players, and totally removes any sense of urgency to ZOS for that QoL to be implemented. For example: any master writ QoL(not the daily writs), add-on users can do hundreds at a time.
-7: The UI becomes more bloated/bigger, and numbers are more focussed on. To me this removes the element of fun from the game, as the focus becomes too much on those numbers and on those UI functions. Instead of on the on-screen goals one is trying to achieve in the game.

Just my thoughts.

WiseSky wrote: »

I really hope you don't win 1 trillion dollars and buy out Microsoft in order to make your opinion a reality.

Uhhm, I really do hope I win one trillion dollars. There's so much good I could do with that type of money. But I wouldn't buy ESO(or Microsoft) to be honest, so do not worry about that too much.
Hypothetically: If I were to buy ESO, I still wouldn't remove add-ons completely. As I know there are many add-ons that are only for personal preferences/likings(for example: that skyrim dialog add-on someone posted about seems really cool). However, I would temporarily disable all advantageous add-ons until that functionality could be added to the base game. My only ask/goal is a fair playingfield for everyone, which shouldn't even be in question.

Here's to hoping I actually do win a trillion dollars!

Don't forget to buy every eso-player new, standardized gaming hardware as well as a proper internet connection for the sake of equality. 😆