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Perfected gear from normal maelstrom arena

  • RaikaNA
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    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    Hi All, thank you for updating us on this issue. The team has figured out a solution and pushed a hotfix to resolve any issues here. Perfected gear should no longer be dropping in normal Maelstrom Arena

    Why is it that you guys can quickly find a solution and push for a hotfix for a PVE weapon drop yet it's taking you guys 6+ years to find a solution to fix the stuck-in-combat bug in Cyrodill? Are we going to get a hotfix for the combat bug tonight as well?
  • SmellyUnlimited
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    [/quote]
    What actually ruins the game is the THOUSANDS of Vampires using Sea-Serpent's Coil bypassing the snare at mist form in PVP.
    THAT IS THE DEFINISION OF AN EXPLOIT and RUINING THE GAME as it affects the rest of the players who are not vampires, and their accounts should be banned en masse, including all the Youtubers who push that exploit.
    ALL OF THEM. [/quote]

    Fail to see how this is an “exploit.” It’s a workaround at most. You can also use Stampede when snared, Shield assault, toppling charge, etc. Are those exploits too?

    DO. NOT. WIPE. (in game OR out!)
  • ZOS_Kevin
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    Gee thanks, now can you answer the question of wether people who did it are gonna get banned. Cause tons of people were simply participating in the event and got the drops

    No bans or actions are being implemented for this. No one should worry about that for this issue.

    Community Manager for ZeniMax Online Studio and Elder Scrolls OnlineDev Tracker | Service Alerts | ESO Twitter
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  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    This really is ridiculous.

    Players need to know if these will considered an exploit, and potentially cause them to be banned.

    I would like to farm MA to benefit from the increased drops & fill my sticker book, but after being banned for doing writs in the wrong place last year I am really wary of doing anything that could be considered an exploit.

    Same for increased gold box drops in IC

    So @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    Please let us know!

    How's considered an exploit if there is issue with the code? Is not like the players intentionally cheated/hacked the game.

    The chest had perfected gear in it. THE END.

    The problem lie in abusing it once known.

    Once known what?

    Did anyone communicate to the players ingame that is a bug? NO.
    If you hadn't come to this forum, would you have known? No. Neither myself.
    There are millions of people playing ESO, do you see them in the forums? No.

    So how's that an abuse? For the outright significant majority of the player base that was a feature due to the running event and the discussions in 4 guilds was exactly that. During the event nMA drops Perf weapons. That is all.

    Everything else is know to those 10-20 read this discussion, the rest of the millions have no idea.

    Well any person that actually read what they loot would understand, i mean its quite easy.

    Also, they once forgot an xp boost in the imperial city sewr after testing cp 2.0 , many people got banned that day
  • DracoLeDoux
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    would be nice to get an update to this
    This really is ridiculous.

    Players need to know if these will considered an exploit, and potentially cause them to be banned.

    I would like to farm MA to benefit from the increased drops & fill my sticker book, but after being banned for doing writs in the wrong place last year I am really wary of doing anything that could be considered an exploit.

    Same for increased gold box drops in IC

    So @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    Please let us know!

    How's considered an exploit if there is issue with the code? Is not like the players intentionally cheated/hacked the game.

    The chest had perfected gear in it. THE END.

    The problem lie in abusing it once known.

    Once known what?

    Did anyone communicate to the players ingame that is a bug? NO.
    If you hadn't come to this forum, would you have known? No. Neither myself.
    There are millions of people playing ESO, do you see them in the forums? No.

    So how's that an abuse? For the outright significant majority of the player base that was a feature due to the running event and the discussions in 4 guilds was exactly that. During the event nMA drops Perf weapons. That is all.

    Everything else is know to those 10-20 read this discussion, the rest of the millions have no idea.

    Well any person that actually read what they loot would understand, i mean its quite easy.

    Also, they once forgot an xp boost in the imperial city sewr after testing cp 2.0 , many people got banned that day

    no they wouldn't. most would assume its part of the event, just as most did
  • katanagirl1
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    Well I feel bad for doing the right thing now. I got nothing.
    Khajiit Stamblade
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    Redguard Stamina Dragonknight
    Orc Stamplar PVP
    Breton Magsorc PVP

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  • Turtle_Bot
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    Well, issue is fixed, official word that no action will be taken against those who got anything from it while it was up. We can all move on and just enjoy the event now.
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Turtle_Bot wrote: »
    Well, issue is fixed, official word that no action will be taken against those who got anything from it while it was up. We can all move on and just enjoy the event now.

    Some people will not stop, "they want to see their neighbour's goat die". (Greek saying)
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    What actually ruins the game is the THOUSANDS of Vampires using Sea-Serpent's Coil bypassing the snare at mist form in PVP.
    THAT IS THE DEFINISION OF AN EXPLOIT and RUINING THE GAME as it affects the rest of the players who are not vampires, and their accounts should be banned en masse, including all the Youtubers who push that exploit.
    ALL OF THEM. [/quote]

    Fail to see how this is an “exploit.” It’s a workaround at most. You can also use Stampede when snared, Shield assault, toppling charge, etc. Are those exploits too?

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    Workaround? Hahaha :D

    It is an EXPLOIT that the designers did not thought about it. An exploit that affects other players, contrary to Perf Weapons dropping from nMA who doesn't affect anyone.
  • Kite42
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    No bans or punishment, just demote the perfected rewards to regular. No one gets unwarranted loot, and those of us that refrained from the exploit don't feel punished for having a conscience. Simple.
  • Irhak
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    Did anyone communicate to the players ingame that is a bug? NO.
    If you hadn't come to this forum, would you have known? No. Neither myself.
    There are millions of people playing ESO, do you see them in the forums? No.

    I learned about it through guild. Then another and another... all 5 of mine guild knew about this... and I don't doubt that even more guilds knew. People came to forum to learned if it's bug or event. And if they will be banned.
  • dcam86b14_ESO
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    The people who were legitimately just doing the event who don't read chat all day long shouldn't be punished. Now if someone who ran it over 20x in an hour then that's a different story.
  • Araneae6537
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    Well I feel bad for doing the right thing now. I got nothing.

    Nah, it will feel good when we earn them. :)

    No shade meant for those who got an unexpected bonus just doing the event or their endeavors.
  • Dax_Draconis
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    Kite42 wrote: »
    No bans or punishment, just demote the perfected rewards to regular. No one gets unwarranted loot, and those of us that refrained from the exploit don't feel punished for having a conscience. Simple.

    Sure. Just as long as they replace the "regular" weapons that were originally obtained in VMA with the perfected version, then that is fair.
  • Jack-0
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    It's insulting. They made us farm VMA once for our gear, then chose to screw us over and make us re-farm it again when they introduced perfected versions for vet and regular for normal. Complete and utter disrespect of vet players' time.
  • Oznog666
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    To be honest I don't have a problem at all if somebody is (was) getting perfected gear for a normal run. But of course I can understand all players like @Jack-0 they had to do the MA and VMA many many times and because there was no stickerbook some years ago they had to do it again for another toon.

    OT: I'm pretty surprised how fast they can react and give us a hotfix. Because in this thread here:

    it took them more than 5 month to respond and it's still not fixed.
  • Ragnarok0130
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    Shouldn't this be post in the bug forums so it's noticed?
  • colossalvoids
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    Jack-0 wrote: »
    It's insulting. They made us farm VMA once for our gear, then chose to screw us over and make us re-farm it again when they introduced perfected versions for vet and regular for normal. Complete and utter disrespect of vet players' time.

    Next one will be vMA weaps via login rewards
  • frogthroat
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    Now if someone who ran it over 20x in an hour then that's a different story.
    I wish it would be possible to do even 4 times an hour. Alas, the pauses between rounds and stages, and the cooldown between finishing it and when you get a new instance make it impossible.

    Still not as bad as DSA.
  • UGotBenched91
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    Dimorphos wrote: »
    People are reporting that they are getting perfected gear from normal maelstrom arena. Is this really intentional or a bug?
    If intentional, I highly recommend you to rethink if it is wise move. If it is a bug, please fix it quickly.

    It really ruins the game if everyone can get bis gear with minimum effort. It is not fair to those who put all the effort in the past to be able to beat the harder content to gain better loot.

    I never understood the concept of because I suffered everyone else should too.

    If it’s a glitch yeah fix it but if they made changes they did it for a reason.
  • Araneae6537
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    Shouldn't this be post in the bug forums so it's noticed?

    It’s been fixed. There was just a long delay in responding to this thread because ZOS didn’t want to tell the players reporting the bug that it was indeed a bug because then more people would know about it…

    🤔
  • katanagirl1
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    Shouldn't this be post in the bug forums so it's noticed?

    It’s been fixed. There was just a long delay in responding to this thread because ZOS didn’t want to tell the players reporting the bug that it was indeed a bug because then more people would know about it…

    🤔

    They didn’t have to worry about that. Everyone already knew about it and ran the arena as many times they could that day to fill their stickerbook. It was in zone chat, guild chat, even on our discord. If anything only one weapon should be allowed because once you got a perfected drop it should have been obvious that it was a bug.
    Khajiit Stamblade
    Dark Elf Magsorc
    Redguard Stamina Dragonknight
    Orc Stamplar PVP
    Breton Magsorc PVP

    PS5 NA

  • Araneae6537
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    Shouldn't this be post in the bug forums so it's noticed?

    It’s been fixed. There was just a long delay in responding to this thread because ZOS didn’t want to tell the players reporting the bug that it was indeed a bug because then more people would know about it…

    🤔

    They didn’t have to worry about that. Everyone already knew about it and ran the arena as many times they could that day to fill their stickerbook. It was in zone chat, guild chat, even on our discord. If anything only one weapon should be allowed because once you got a perfected drop it should have been obvious that it was a bug.

    Exactly! And yet this is the official reason from ZOS as to why they did not communicate on the issue sooner:
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    Irhak wrote: »
    To be honest, instead of just placing this annoucemennt after the fact, many of players would actually apprecieate a heads up earlier that team worked on issue.

    But thx for the info :)

    Depending on the issue we will tackle notification differently. In this case, we did not want to notify before knowing everything was fixed. That way, more people did not try to take advantage of the issue while we worked on a fix. But we definitely appreciate the sentiment of wanting to know as soon as things are being worked on.

    I guess it bothers me because it does not make any sense to me, but I will get over it.
    Anyway, I’m glad it was fixed. Hopefully the related bugs can be resolved quickly as well.
  • EF321
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    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    Hi All, thank you for updating us on this issue. The team has figured out a solution and pushed a hotfix to resolve any issues here. Perfected gear should no longer be dropping in normal Maelstrom Arena

    @ZOS_Kevin
    I apparently already completed 8 Ticket weekly endeavor. We get 2 tickets a day and today is Wednesday...
    8xsz858rshkz.png

    Seems there are more messed up things in event reward logic.
  • Roztlin45
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    This thread inspired me to do a VMA. Only completed one long ago. Several normal. Even at my best , I am just never going to be a great player. Somehow I managed to complete it! Don't get me wrong their was a lot of screaming and gnashing of teeth..from m lol. Score was trash also.lol so if I can do it anyone can. My only complaints are that I had one perfected weapon from before, a resto staff. This time I got the sword and board. Que the music from price is right when you loose.So either my RNG is that bad or this is intended to keep you coming back.?
  • ApoAlaia
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    EF321 wrote: »
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    Hi All, thank you for updating us on this issue. The team has figured out a solution and pushed a hotfix to resolve any issues here. Perfected gear should no longer be dropping in normal Maelstrom Arena

    @ZOS_Kevin
    I apparently already completed 8 Ticket weekly endeavor. We get 2 tickets a day and today is Wednesday...
    8xsz858rshkz.png

    Seems there are more messed up things in event reward logic.

    O.o

    The most likely explanation is that you were caught in a dragon break and lived through two different Tuesdays concurrently.
  • LouisaB75
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    Roztlin45 wrote: »
    This thread inspired me to do a VMA. Only completed one long ago. Several normal. Even at my best , I am just never going to be a great player. Somehow I managed to complete it! Don't get me wrong their was a lot of screaming and gnashing of teeth..from m lol. Score was trash also.lol so if I can do it anyone can. My only complaints are that I had one perfected weapon from before, a resto staff. This time I got the sword and board. Que the music from price is right when you loose.So either my RNG is that bad or this is intended to keep you coming back.?

    I completed my first vMA this week. Took me two days and had to do all sorts of messing with gear, skills and CP to finish it. Not to mention actually learning the mechanics.

    I wanted destruction staff but got axe, shield and bow. So will have to go again if I want the staff. The axe was also nirnhoned, which I didn't even know dropped from there, and that is a huge incentive to go back for me.

    Going to try again before the event ends for sure.
  • KlauthWarthog
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    EF321 wrote: »
    ZOS_Kevin wrote: »
    Hi All, thank you for updating us on this issue. The team has figured out a solution and pushed a hotfix to resolve any issues here. Perfected gear should no longer be dropping in normal Maelstrom Arena

    @ZOS_Kevin
    I apparently already completed 8 Ticket weekly endeavor. We get 2 tickets a day and today is Wednesday...
    8xsz858rshkz.png

    Seems there are more messed up things in event reward logic.

    Check this: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/650712/you-can-get-event-tickets-multiple-times#latest
  • JanTanhide
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    The people who were legitimately just doing the event who don't read chat all day long shouldn't be punished. Now if someone who ran it over 20x in an hour then that's a different story.

    20 times in an hour would def be a feat. Impossible to do. Takes on average 30 minutes to complete. If you skip the chests and dialogue it can be done in about 24 minutes.
  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    JanTanhide wrote: »
    If you skip the chests and dialogue it can be done in about 24 minutes.

    *screams in horror at the thought of skipping past loot* 😱
    #proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
    A useful explanation for how RNG works

    EXPECTING SEVERAL HOURS OF DOWNTIME FOR PC/NA.
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