freespirit wrote: »find the constant griping about ToT and ONE lead very odd!
freespirit wrote: »find the constant griping about ToT and ONE lead very odd!
Fact is ToT has nothing to do with the ESO game, it's js just a mobile card game that belong in a smartphone.
I'm here to play an MMO RPG not some card game.
spartaxoxo wrote: »ToT is steeped in ESO lore...
SilverBride wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »ToT is steeped in ESO lore...
ESO is represented in ToT but ToT isn't represented in ESO lore.
spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »ToT is steeped in ESO lore...
ESO is represented in ToT but ToT isn't represented in ESO lore.
There are quests and references in ESO that specifically reference ToT. Most recently, Naryu talked about it in Necrom. She says she'd bet her Tribute winnings that an item the player finds is a particular thing. Razum-dar has a quest in an Outlaws refuge and gives the player the option to play an illegal hand. And there is, ofc, the actual ToT quest line and the founders.
imaslowlearner wrote: »Tales of tribute is a bad game. Forcing people to play it with its horrible rng drops is a trash way to keep people engaged.
I don't want to debate if the game is bad on the tales of tribute forum as its probably an echo chamber of people that do enjoy the game, I just want to request zos stop trying to force people to play it by adding these things in future updates.
Also increase the drop rates for Card Conjurer and Spearhead items.
/rant
SilverBride wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »ToT is steeped in ESO lore...
ESO is represented in ToT but ToT isn't represented in ESO lore.
There are quests and references in ESO that specifically reference ToT. Most recently, Naryu talked about it in Necrom. She says she'd bet her Tribute winnings that an item the player finds is a particular thing. Razum-dar has a quest in an Outlaws refuge and gives the player the option to play an illegal hand. And there is, ofc, the actual ToT quest line and the founders.
These are quests that came after ToT was introduced. They were not part of ESO lore.
spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »ToT is steeped in ESO lore...
ESO is represented in ToT but ToT isn't represented in ESO lore.
There are quests and references in ESO that specifically reference ToT. Most recently, Naryu talked about it in Necrom. She says she'd bet her Tribute winnings that an item the player finds is a particular thing. Razum-dar has a quest in an Outlaws refuge and gives the player the option to play an illegal hand. And there is, ofc, the actual ToT quest line and the founders.
These are quests that came after ToT was introduced. They were not part of ESO lore.
That's true of any time something new gets added to the franchise. The Antiquarian Circle isn't something people would say isn't part of ESO lore, just because it got introduced in ESO. Naryu isn't either.
Prior to Skyrim, the title of Dragonborn was mostly about the blood of the emperors, not a warrior literally borne with powers like a dragon. But, nobody would argue Dragonborn warriors aren't now part of TES lore. Every game in the franchise has introduced new concepts that become part of the lore, because they are part of the questing in the game. And ToT objectively has quests and is referenced in a canon game of the franchise. This makes it canon to TES lore.
spartaxoxo wrote: »freespirit wrote: »find the constant griping about ToT and ONE lead very odd!
Fact is ToT has nothing to do with the ESO game, it's js just a mobile card game that belong in a smartphone.
I'm here to play an MMO RPG not some card game.
ToT is steeped in ESO lore and gives us a mini game to play in the taverns. Mini games are a normal part of RPGs.
bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »
SeaGtGruff wrote: »But I'm curious-- if you dislike Tales of Tribute so strongly, why do you want the Card Conjurer emote? I can see why you might want to acquire a free houseguest, but isn't the emote a tribute to the very card game you apparently want nothing to do with?
SeaGtGruff wrote: »But I'm curious-- if you dislike Tales of Tribute so strongly, why do you want the Card Conjurer emote? I can see why you might want to acquire a free houseguest, but isn't the emote a tribute to the very card game you apparently want nothing to do with?
My endgame is Housing and of course I was eager to get the houseguest and the other two furnishings - so I gritted my teeth and played what felt like thousands of rounds of ToT... (or perhaps they even were) I even didn´t recognized that there is a card game related emote existing, since I am not really interested in emotes.
SeaGtGruff wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »But I'm curious-- if you dislike Tales of Tribute so strongly, why do you want the Card Conjurer emote? I can see why you might want to acquire a free houseguest, but isn't the emote a tribute to the very card game you apparently want nothing to do with?
My endgame is Housing and of course I was eager to get the houseguest and the other two furnishings - so I gritted my teeth and played what felt like thousands of rounds of ToT... (or perhaps they even were) I even didn´t recognized that there is a card game related emote existing, since I am not really interested in emotes.
Okay, so you don't care whether the RNG drop rate for the Card Conjurer fragment is increased or not, just the Spearhead. It's none of my business, I was just curious because it sounded funny to me when you first said it. On the other hand, wanting to get the houseguest is perfectly understandable.
Anyway, it does seem like MMO RNG drop rates were invented to teach us the patience of Job, doesn't it?
MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »But I'm curious-- if you dislike Tales of Tribute so strongly, why do you want the Card Conjurer emote? I can see why you might want to acquire a free houseguest, but isn't the emote a tribute to the very card game you apparently want nothing to do with?
My endgame is Housing and of course I was eager to get the houseguest and the other two furnishings - so I gritted my teeth and played what felt like thousands of rounds of ToT... (or perhaps they even were) I even didn´t recognized that there is a card game related emote existing, since I am not really interested in emotes.
Okay, so you don't care whether the RNG drop rate for the Card Conjurer fragment is increased or not, just the Spearhead. It's none of my business, I was just curious because it sounded funny to me when you first said it. On the other hand, wanting to get the houseguest is perfectly understandable.
Anyway, it does seem like MMO RNG drop rates were invented to teach us the patience of Job, doesn't it?
This is true for me too. As far as I know, it's the only way to get a free house guest that's not a companion. Oh or that weird mime...
Necrotech_Master wrote: »MidniteOwl1913 wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »But I'm curious-- if you dislike Tales of Tribute so strongly, why do you want the Card Conjurer emote? I can see why you might want to acquire a free houseguest, but isn't the emote a tribute to the very card game you apparently want nothing to do with?
My endgame is Housing and of course I was eager to get the houseguest and the other two furnishings - so I gritted my teeth and played what felt like thousands of rounds of ToT... (or perhaps they even were) I even didn´t recognized that there is a card game related emote existing, since I am not really interested in emotes.
Okay, so you don't care whether the RNG drop rate for the Card Conjurer fragment is increased or not, just the Spearhead. It's none of my business, I was just curious because it sounded funny to me when you first said it. On the other hand, wanting to get the houseguest is perfectly understandable.
Anyway, it does seem like MMO RNG drop rates were invented to teach us the patience of Job, doesn't it?
This is true for me too. As far as I know, it's the only way to get a free house guest that's not a companion. Oh or that weird mime...
theres been a few other free houseguests, but i think they were part of events/giveaways and not like "earnable"
like the antiquity houseguest
boi_anachronism_ wrote: »Ok so let me start by saying I despise ToT- that said i believe there should be leads in every type of content. Overworld, IC, dungeons, bastion, and trials all have leads only cyro and bgs don't that i'm aware. Its balancing. Some folks like it and some hate it. After dealing with a zillion games for the music box lead yeah, i wish they didnt however the point is to get everyone to play all content so i can't really say it doesn't make sense or that its unfair. Just my 2 cents.
Yup. Absolutely. Also I know this isn't Cyrodiil of Battlegrounds...but, another lead of note is the Moth Priest's Cleansing Bowl, which is only available in Imperial City Sewers. It's one of the most popular furnishings that I have seen. It's a bowl filled with water on a stand, which also makes it very popular for players using it as a hand washing piece in bathrooms. Imperial City remains one of the least popular pieces of content in the game.Necrotech_Master wrote: »boi_anachronism_ wrote: »Ok so let me start by saying I despise ToT- that said i believe there should be leads in every type of content. Overworld, IC, dungeons, bastion, and trials all have leads only cyro and bgs don't that i'm aware. Its balancing. Some folks like it and some hate it. After dealing with a zillion games for the music box lead yeah, i wish they didnt however the point is to get everyone to play all content so i can't really say it doesn't make sense or that its unfair. Just my 2 cents.
cyro and BGs do have leads lol
- St. Alessia, Paravant furnishing lead as far as im aware can only come from BGs in the reward email container after finishing a match
- The Heartland furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil (delve bosses, treasure chests, specifically in cyrodiil)
- Jeweled Skull of Ayleid Kings furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil
- Sorcerer-King's Blade furnishing lead can only come from town quests in cyro
- 1 lead for the snow treaders mythic (Magicka-Imbued Metal Plates) is only sourced from cyrodiil in delves
Necrotech_Master wrote: »boi_anachronism_ wrote: »Ok so let me start by saying I despise ToT- that said i believe there should be leads in every type of content. Overworld, IC, dungeons, bastion, and trials all have leads only cyro and bgs don't that i'm aware. Its balancing. Some folks like it and some hate it. After dealing with a zillion games for the music box lead yeah, i wish they didnt however the point is to get everyone to play all content so i can't really say it doesn't make sense or that its unfair. Just my 2 cents.
cyro and BGs do have leads lol
- St. Alessia, Paravant furnishing lead as far as im aware can only come from BGs in the reward email container after finishing a match
- The Heartland furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil (delve bosses, treasure chests, specifically in cyrodiil)
- Jeweled Skull of Ayleid Kings furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil
- Sorcerer-King's Blade furnishing lead can only come from town quests in cyro
- 1 lead for the snow treaders mythic (Magicka-Imbued Metal Plates) is only sourced from cyrodiil in delves
spartaxoxo wrote: »Yup. Absolutely. Also I know this isn't Cyrodiil of Battlegrounds...but, another lead of note is the Moth Priest's Cleansing Bowl, which is only available in Imperial City Sewers. It's one of the most popular furnishings that I have seen. It's a bowl filled with water on a stand, which also makes it very popular for players using it as a hand washing piece in bathrooms. Imperial City remains one of the least popular pieces of content in the game.Necrotech_Master wrote: »boi_anachronism_ wrote: »Ok so let me start by saying I despise ToT- that said i believe there should be leads in every type of content. Overworld, IC, dungeons, bastion, and trials all have leads only cyro and bgs don't that i'm aware. Its balancing. Some folks like it and some hate it. After dealing with a zillion games for the music box lead yeah, i wish they didnt however the point is to get everyone to play all content so i can't really say it doesn't make sense or that its unfair. Just my 2 cents.
cyro and BGs do have leads lol
- St. Alessia, Paravant furnishing lead as far as im aware can only come from BGs in the reward email container after finishing a match
- The Heartland furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil (delve bosses, treasure chests, specifically in cyrodiil)
- Jeweled Skull of Ayleid Kings furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil
- Sorcerer-King's Blade furnishing lead can only come from town quests in cyro
- 1 lead for the snow treaders mythic (Magicka-Imbued Metal Plates) is only sourced from cyrodiil in delves
boi_anachronism_ wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »Yup. Absolutely. Also I know this isn't Cyrodiil of Battlegrounds...but, another lead of note is the Moth Priest's Cleansing Bowl, which is only available in Imperial City Sewers. It's one of the most popular furnishings that I have seen. It's a bowl filled with water on a stand, which also makes it very popular for players using it as a hand washing piece in bathrooms. Imperial City remains one of the least popular pieces of content in the game.Necrotech_Master wrote: »boi_anachronism_ wrote: »Ok so let me start by saying I despise ToT- that said i believe there should be leads in every type of content. Overworld, IC, dungeons, bastion, and trials all have leads only cyro and bgs don't that i'm aware. Its balancing. Some folks like it and some hate it. After dealing with a zillion games for the music box lead yeah, i wish they didnt however the point is to get everyone to play all content so i can't really say it doesn't make sense or that its unfair. Just my 2 cents.
cyro and BGs do have leads lol
- St. Alessia, Paravant furnishing lead as far as im aware can only come from BGs in the reward email container after finishing a match
- The Heartland furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil (delve bosses, treasure chests, specifically in cyrodiil)
- Jeweled Skull of Ayleid Kings furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil
- Sorcerer-King's Blade furnishing lead can only come from town quests in cyro
- 1 lead for the snow treaders mythic (Magicka-Imbued Metal Plates) is only sourced from cyrodiil in delves
I did mention ic, there are several there, mostly from group bosses and such.
spartaxoxo wrote: »boi_anachronism_ wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »Yup. Absolutely. Also I know this isn't Cyrodiil of Battlegrounds...but, another lead of note is the Moth Priest's Cleansing Bowl, which is only available in Imperial City Sewers. It's one of the most popular furnishings that I have seen. It's a bowl filled with water on a stand, which also makes it very popular for players using it as a hand washing piece in bathrooms. Imperial City remains one of the least popular pieces of content in the game.Necrotech_Master wrote: »boi_anachronism_ wrote: »Ok so let me start by saying I despise ToT- that said i believe there should be leads in every type of content. Overworld, IC, dungeons, bastion, and trials all have leads only cyro and bgs don't that i'm aware. Its balancing. Some folks like it and some hate it. After dealing with a zillion games for the music box lead yeah, i wish they didnt however the point is to get everyone to play all content so i can't really say it doesn't make sense or that its unfair. Just my 2 cents.
cyro and BGs do have leads lol
- St. Alessia, Paravant furnishing lead as far as im aware can only come from BGs in the reward email container after finishing a match
- The Heartland furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil (delve bosses, treasure chests, specifically in cyrodiil)
- Jeweled Skull of Ayleid Kings furnishing lead has some sources in cyrodiil
- Sorcerer-King's Blade furnishing lead can only come from town quests in cyro
- 1 lead for the snow treaders mythic (Magicka-Imbued Metal Plates) is only sourced from cyrodiil in delves
I did mention ic, there are several there, mostly from group bosses and such.
I know. Which is why I said "I know this isn't Cyrodiil or Battlegrounds," in my reply. I was agreeing with your overall point.
spartaxoxo wrote: »Then there is Brahgas and Captain Kaleen from Tales of Tribute.