Balance Changes

PureEnvelope35

There is nothing wrong with 100k Offensive Penetration and a flat 97% Mitigation, should just nerf Sap Essence healing again tbh.

Reverb

Cries in Templar

Tyrant_Tim

Reverb wrote: »

Cries in Templar

At least Repentance got a buff; Radiant Aura is still arguably the worst support skill in the game though.

FoJul

Dekrypted wrote: »

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Cloudrest wrote: »

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I'm excited to spam corrosive and be 1v1 dominant and be a bomber all in 1 build. Imma be unkillable, with insane aoe burst damage.

P.S. Don't catch me with a warden, running crypt cannon. I might become the main character of ESO.

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Red99

months and months of feedback regarding balance completely ignored again

Aces-High-82

Twohothardware wrote: »

Arthtur wrote: »

I dont agree that DK is the stronget in PvE. DK lost this title already. That spot belongs to Arcanist now. DK is just good in PvE,.Its still better than other classes but thats the problem with the other classes not DK.
In PvP well... Corrosive. Thats all.

Yeah in PvE Arcanist is performing well above DK and in PvP DK is not even close to Nightblade in terms of the damage buffing passives. Everyone is complaining about one skill, an ultimate, Corrosive Armor. An ultimate that isn't used in PvE which is why the devs probably don't see the potential issues with this set because PvP is rarely a major factor in balance changes.

Corrosive armor needs an adjustment and this set is probably fine.

The set is such fine that ZOS already stated Ferocious shield won't Stack lol

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gariondavey

Oh look a green comment in the thread! Has zos commented on this well presented thread from @Cloudrest ?
Nope! Just mods doing what they do...
Zos, please, listen to people like cloudrest.

gariondavey

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At least I got to read the thread before it got the spray bottle of doom

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TechMaybeHic

They could almost go the extreme and leave only one class at the top. Would have to chose between DK and NB, and knock down that Warden suvivability. Whatever they want to do. Just to where there is only 1 class really being used in PvP. Then it will be balanced

Cloudrest

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

They could almost go the extreme and leave only one class at the top. Would have to chose between DK and NB, and knock down that Warden suvivability. Whatever they want to do. Just to where there is only 1 class really being used in PvP. Then it will be balanced

It's already like that with DK more or less. The only other builds I see are pulseblade gankers or the occasional non-DK that's abusing mdw/vate/maar.

Turtle_Bot

gariondavey wrote: »

MetallicMonk wrote: »

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At least I got to read the thread before it got the spray bottle of doom

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lucky, I missed out

Turtle_Bot

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

They could almost go the extreme and leave only one class at the top. Would have to chose between DK and NB, and knock down that Warden suvivability. Whatever they want to do. Just to where there is only 1 class really being used in PvP. Then it will be balanced

I thought this had already been done.

I thought everyone was on the masters vate class that keeps popping up in my recaps

Panderbander

Turtle_Bot wrote: »

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

They could almost go the extreme and leave only one class at the top. Would have to chose between DK and NB, and knock down that Warden suvivability. Whatever they want to do. Just to where there is only 1 class really being used in PvP. Then it will be balanced

I thought this had already been done.

I thought everyone was on the masters vate class that keeps popping up in my recaps

We're not sure on that yet. Gotta let it bake a while longer. Don't want to pull this thing out of the oven until it's a smoldering pile of ash

TechMaybeHic

Cloudrest wrote: »

TechMaybeHic wrote: »

They could almost go the extreme and leave only one class at the top. Would have to chose between DK and NB, and knock down that Warden suvivability. Whatever they want to do. Just to where there is only 1 class really being used in PvP. Then it will be balanced

It's already like that with DK more or less. The only other builds I see are pulseblade gankers or the occasional non-DK that's abusing mdw/vate/maar.

Sure enough; I was cleaning up my own DK build a couple days ago.

Had been running my templar full damage to kill without bothering with POTL but even all glass, you have players you need some burst to stand a chance. And even with POTL; good players manage to not eat damage while it's on or ot just gets purged completely. It's just exhausting and then you see easy bursts every 3 or 4 seconds from others

IncultaWolf

There is no class, there is only masters duel wield, vateshran, and maarselok

VinnyGambini

IncultaWolf wrote: »

There is no class, there is only masters duel wield, vateshran, and maarselok

So true.

In no-cp campaigns you can see classes. In CP you only see this META sets.

So SAD.

ZOS why do you ruin your game?

Cast_El

I would like to comment on this thread,but my post will be edited for bashing

Tyrant_Tim

Did we forget the combat changes this week? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Panderbander

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

Did we forget the combat changes this week? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Not forgotten, the combat is perfectly balanced as it has been since U35. Absolutely nothing to change, it is perfect as is! One hundred. Percent. Perfect.

Tyrant_Tim

Panderbander wrote: »

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

Did we forget the combat changes this week? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Not forgotten, the combat is perfectly balanced as it has been since U35. Absolutely nothing to change, it is perfect as is! One hundred. Percent. Perfect.

Maybe you can dress up a Dragonknight like a Werewolf, while I’m using the Crusader set to pretend I’m using Sun Shield.

Because you have to play pretend to think Werewolf or TankPlar are in a good spot right now.

Panderbander

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

Panderbander wrote: »

Tyrant_Tim wrote: »

Did we forget the combat changes this week? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Not forgotten, the combat is perfectly balanced as it has been since U35. Absolutely nothing to change, it is perfect as is! One hundred. Percent. Perfect.

Maybe you can dress up a Dragonknight like a Werewolf, while I’m using the Crusader set to pretend I’m using Sun Shield.

Because you have to play pretend to think Werewolf or TankPlar are in a good spot right now.

How can you say such bold things when the balance in this game has never been better! Actually, now that I think of it, I did die once recently on my DK so we should probably give them a little buff. And recently it took me four button presses to kill someone on my Nightblade so they should probably get a buff as well. Then we can call it perfect and retire the entire dev team from the game because no more changes are needed.

Those are the only two classes, right?

gariondavey

Pretty blown away by there being ZERO class and combat adjustments this week. Players have been asking for over a year to have templar and necro fixed.
Unreal. Absolutely freaking unreal.

Erickson9610

I'm disappointed by the lack of balance changes. Maybe Update 41 next year will have a considerable amount? If not, then surely Update 42 would have some.

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gariondavey

Erickson9610 wrote: »

I'm disappointed by the lack of balance changes. Maybe Update 41 next year will have a considerable amount? If not, then surely Update 42 would have some.

Waiting for 2+ years for sorely needed changes is not what most players are willing to do. It also really encourages them to not financially support the game.

flizomica

So... that means we won't get any meaningful combat changes this patch since week 3 didn't have any? I'm so burned out on hoping things will improve lol. January PTS here we come I guess...

RoxyPhoenix

so yeh if you just try to lash out a little bit, whether it is from pure frustration on lack of balance or inability to follow devs logic in particular changes, your post however accurate and filled with harsh truth, will be in fact delated. I get it, it is not my game, it is theirs. Ultimately they will do whatever they want with it, even if it means putting it down and making room for other games [project kestrel *cough, project platinum*cough] I understand that.

What I don't understand is the fact that for any meaningful changes or fixes we need to wait a full cycle, and that's assuming there will be any. We have a weekly maintenance, what stops them from fixing one small thing from hundreds of things that we asked them for, during that time? Just one at a time. I mean I'm not talking about changing the whole game engine. Small things, like what they did with corrosive, or giving necro major sorcery/brutality, maybe addressing templar or sorc issues, buffing up some forgotten old set that nooner uses anymore, I dunno, anything. They don't need months for it, as PTS shows these little changes can be done on the go and they are extremely important for us.

MashmalloMan

Erickson9610 wrote: »

I'm disappointed by the lack of balance changes. Maybe Update 41 next year will have a considerable amount? If not, then surely Update 42 would have some.

gariondavey wrote: »

Waiting for 2+ years for sorely needed changes is not what most players are willing to do. It also really encourages them to not financially support the game.

This is me to a TEE. I quit with U35, but I had been slowly falling off for a year prior. I've been checking back each PTS for a reason to come back, this was close, but with the rewards being dog tier, I have no interest in wasting my time.

FoJul

Hey, but putting the game on sale and bringing a lot of people in is going to make up for all the vets leaving. They still will make their money anyways. Regardless if we are here or not. If the game fails to make profit, time to shut down the servers.

ESO is in that MMO state, of where they are doing very minimal to keep the servers alive.

How many free trials and sales are their going to be to realize, if you fix the game people would stay.