my PTS parses

Billium813

Just gonna post my terrible build parses here for anyone who cares. I use 2H and Bow on my Templar main, so I wanted to see what the changes are gonna do to my DPS. I know the build isn't "meta" and I'm not good at weaving, but I haven't had any issues in the content I run. I mostly run solo and 4 man dungeons.

Build:

Bosmer Stamplar

Head - Med - Stormfist
Shoulder - Med - Stormfist
Chest- Med - Deadly Strike
Arms - Light - Dark Convergence
Belt - Light - Dark Convergence
Legs - Med - Deadly Strike
Boots - Med - Deadly Strike
Necklace - Bloodthirsty - Dark Convergence
Ring - Bloodthirsty - Dark Convergence
Ring - Bloodthirsty - Death Dealer's Fete
Weapon 1 - Two Handed - Deadly Strike
Weapon 2 - Bow - Dark Convergence

Bar 1: Carve, Biting Jabs, Stampede, Ritual of Retribution, Camo Hunter, Flawless Dawnbreaker
Bar 2: Venom Arrow, Repentance, Endless Hail, Blazing Spear, Solar Barrage, Everlasting Sweep

PTS 9.1.0:

Live:

I expected the new Bow passive and HAs with 2H would do more for my build. Kind of disappointed atm.

Billium813

my HA Build:

Bosmer Magplar

Head - Light - Slimecraw
Shoulder - Light - Noble Duelist
Chest- Heavy - Sergeant's Mail
Arms - Light - Noble Duelist
Belt - Light - Noble Duelist
Legs - Light - Noble Duelist
Boots - Light - Noble Duelist
Necklace - Bloodthirsty - Sergeant's Mail
Ring - Bloodthirsty - Sergeant's Mail
Ring - Bloodthirsty - Oakensoul
Weapon 1 - Lightning Staff - Sergeant's Mail

Bar 1: Unstable Wall of Storms, Puncturing Sweep, Solar Barrage, Ritual of Retribution, Barbed Trap, Meteor

PTS 9.1.0:

Live:

I'm not very good with HA bar and weave Jabs pretty badly, but the damage is basically unchanged.

Necrotech_Master

HA with 2 hand is still going to be sub par single target compared to lightning staff (since lightning is still triple dipping into the HA sets, it will have a little less cleave but the single target should actually increase)

i also would not necessarily consider dark convergence to be a good dps set, cooldown is far too long and only really good for bursty dmg

also, numerically speaking, a drop of 3k dps is not something i would call mind-boggling or even "terrible parsing", i sometimes have a variance of 3k just fighting a WB depending on the circumstances

is this build supposed to be more for pvp or pve?

and another minor note, why are you using venom arrow over poison injection? you dont need the major buffs from venom arrow due to biting jabs, and you would get significantly higher dmg from poison injection (i know venom arrow can also be a ranged interrupt but i would not use it just for that)

Billium813

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

HA with 2 hand is still going to be sub par single target compared to lightning staff (since lightning is still triple dipping into the HA sets, it will have a little less cleave but the single target should actually increase)

i also would not necessarily consider dark convergence to be a good dps set, cooldown is far too long and only really good for bursty dmg

also, numerically speaking, a drop of 3k dps is not something i would call mind-boggling or even "terrible parsing", i sometimes have a variance of 3k just fighting a WB depending on the circumstances

is this build supposed to be more for pvp or pve?

Oh, I don't mean "terrible parses" as in "the damage is mind bogglingly bad or lower then expected". I mean "terrible parses" as in "I'm not very good and my builds aren't either". I won't defend my main other than "it works well for me in dungeons and solo". I run 4 man dungeons and Solo PvE mostly, no trials.

I understand the 3k variance could be on lots of things, but that 3k is fairly stable. I ran several parses and these were just one. The drop is fairly average at 3k-ish.

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

and another minor note, why are you using venom arrow over poison injection? you dont need the major buffs from venom arrow due to biting jabs, and you would get significantly higher dmg from poison injection (i know venom arrow can also be a ranged interrupt but i would not use it just for that)

I use Venom Arrow for the interrupt mostly. Define "Significantly higher"?

Necrotech_Master

Billium813 wrote: »

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

HA with 2 hand is still going to be sub par single target compared to lightning staff (since lightning is still triple dipping into the HA sets, it will have a little less cleave but the single target should actually increase)

i also would not necessarily consider dark convergence to be a good dps set, cooldown is far too long and only really good for bursty dmg

also, numerically speaking, a drop of 3k dps is not something i would call mind-boggling or even "terrible parsing", i sometimes have a variance of 3k just fighting a WB depending on the circumstances

is this build supposed to be more for pvp or pve?

and another minor note, why are you using venom arrow over poison injection? you dont need the major buffs from venom arrow due to biting jabs, and you would get significantly higher dmg from poison injection (i know venom arrow can also be a ranged interrupt but i would not use it just for that)

Oh, I don't mean "terrible parses" as in "the damage is mind bogglingly bad or lower then expected". I mean "terrible parses" as in "I'm not very good and my builds aren't either".

lol, well i dont necessarily look at the numbers, honestly your hitting roughly about the same as what i do on my 2h/bow templar now (gear wise we are a bit different, skills we are only about 50% different lol)

its really about how well you can maintain your rotation in content

for reference my gear is stormfist monster set + pillar of nirn + perfected whorl of the depths with a perfected maelstrom bow back bar

skill wise
front bar: camo hunter, stampede, radiant glory, biting jabs, stamina rune (i dont remember the exact name lol), and flawless dawnbreaker for ulti
back bar: poison injection, resolving vigor, spiked bone shield, cleansing ritual, endless hail, and shooting star for ulti