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Can we please get a Auction House?

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It's so time consuming to have to run to each and every zone checking every trader for a specific piece of gear when we could have a auction house in a major zone where multiple guilds can list items. You could even make 3-5 Auction Houses spread across Tamriel to hold multiple guilds as to not bog down one single zone. Just something that would make shopping/selling a lot easier in my opinion
  • TaSheen
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    Thormar wrote: »
    OP, do not listen to the nay sayers.
    An Auction house is coming; after spellcrafting, flying mounts, under water pvp and the full-on Tamriel wide justice system.

    Erm.... yah. Not. Gave me a good laugh you did!
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    Erm.... yah. Not. Gave me a good laugh you did!


    Edited by Thormar on May 19, 2023 1:12AM
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  • Jestir
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    I would like it if it had a significant trade off

    Like the listing fee and a "broker" fee being significantly higher than the listing and guild cut, maybe even an extra charge for the buyer
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    So while I find the whole guild traders system incredibly annoying, I probably wouldn't even bothering to join a guild with a trader without ttc, I would like to know if there are any comments by the dev team from anytime recent.

    8 years is a lot of time, think of all the things that have changed in this game in the last 8 years
  • TaSheen
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    I believe the "answer" is a total, unreserved, unqualified "no" from the devs.

    I've never heard that from the devs, just from players saying they don't like the idea for some bizarre reason. I'm actually interested about when they said this can you point me in the right direction since early in the game after launch I didn't pay attention to patch notes and dev interviews?

    *Hauls out the reference list*

    (Sorry, I truly mean no offense, but I tend to collect references to what the Devs say for times like this.)

    So here's a collection of ZOS' intentions and official comments for Guild Traders.

    March 2013: "Will there be an auction house?" asked of Creative Director Paul Sage @5:00 into the video: https://www.buffed.de/TESO-The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Spiel-15582/News/The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-Creative-Director-Paul-Sage-aeussert-sich-zur-Item-Progression-zu-Mounts-und-zum-Gildensystem-im-Video-1072227/

    August 2014: Benefits of Guilds - "The Road Ahead" https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/1059

    August 2014: Introduction of PVE Guild Traders - Creating ESO: Identity and Update 3 https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/1087

    May 2014: Lack of an Auction House - Ask Us Anything Variety Pack # 14: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/947

    April 10, 2015: ESO Live @ https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3924079#Comment_3924079

    April 28,2015 : ESO Live "Ask Us Anything" @37:40 "Player guilds are actually an integral part of our world and trader access is a key benefit to guild membership. We don't have any plans to change this at this time." Also, the transcript: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1760019#Comment_1760019 https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2875274#Comment_2875274


    There well may be more. I don't regularly watch ESO Live, so I only pick up those comments when someone on the forums referenced a specific ESO Live.

    Are those going to convince the pro-AH crowd? Probably not. Hope springs eternal, and there's all sorts of arguments about "Well, they said they weren't and then they did!" or "But all of those are old quotes!"

    Sure. Whatever. If you really want an Auction House, I don't expect the Devs' thinking to convince you. You want what you want. To be frank, I'm pretty sure an updated "Nope, still not doing it" wouldn't stop the debate.

    The above links are for the people going "What have the Devs actually said about the possibility of an Auction House?"

    So far? A resounding "No."

    Thanks, Varanis. I didn't have all the referents myself. So I'm really glad you "brought home the bacon".

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    We have one its called the TTC website. The current trading guild setup is waaaay better than an auction house, if there was an auction house trading guilds wouldnt be necessary.
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    i can understand your irritation with how things are now, however, it's not that time-consuming to use the TBS site.

    https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade
    https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade

    You check for what you want, see when it was listed, and for how much. You can pretty much judge when something is likely not to be there anymore, based on when it was listed.

    Granted the site isn't updated live, and can be a bit behind, however, it's much better than running around blind from trader to trader trying to find what you are looking for.

    There are many other MMOs who use an AH thing, if how things are in this game isn't to your liking, checking out one of the others may be a potentially good option for you. Seems guild traders are an integral part of this game, making it unique, and not going to be going anywhere any time soon.
    Edited by Thee_Cheshire_Cat on May 19, 2023 2:13AM
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    On a practical level, I think we have to ask if ZOS can in fact make an auction house, when we already know that Guild Stores start to chug at their maximum of 15,000 items and that ZOS had to limit server calls from popular addons Tamriel Trade Center and Master Merchant because they were causing problems with checking guild sales/prices too quickly.

    Yeah, other games have auction houses, but we're talking about ESO not other games, and all past experience says ZOS has some major technical hurdles to overcome first.

    Not to mention that they decided to initiate AWA to reduce database sizes.

    We have yet to have a stable group finder tool that can place people in different dungeons/or fail to group them up.

    Server stability is still an issue, and zos will boot you for aend mail still or even doing a lot of searches in guild stores.

    Even if ZOS wanted to, they have other server issues they need to address before they even come close to being ready for a GAH.
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    Bleakz wrote: »
    So while I find the whole guild traders system incredibly annoying, I probably wouldn't even bothering to join a guild with a trader without ttc, I would like to know if there are any comments by the dev team from anytime recent.

    8 years is a lot of time, think of all the things that have changed in this game in the last 8 years

    I don't believe ZOS has said much, but as I said, I don't watch ESO Live, so its possible I've missed something. Though for what its worth, nobody who's in favor of Auction Houses has brought up any quotes to the contrary that I haven't listed. If you find any, I'd be delighted to add them to the list.

    However, I also think its worth looking at what ZOS has done since then. ZOS has substantially reworked how the Guild Bid works to allow guilds to bid on multiple traders. ZOS has introduced Guild Finder. ZOS has limited the ability of popular trading addons to quickly/repetitively call on the server for sales and pricing because it was causing performance issues.

    So instead of moving away from the Guild-centric model of trading when they had the chance, ZOS worked on making that model work better for guilds. Something to think about.

    I would also add that this is a very common topic on the forums. Enough that Zos could fill an entire subforum with the conversation that comes up every 3 to 6 months.

    The concensus seems to be that while many like the guild set up, many Also hate it, but reality indicates that zos doesn't have the resources needed to make the needed changes to account for it. Not unless players are willing to sacrifice some features they love to free up bandwidth.
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    TaSheen wrote: »
    If ZOS moved to a centralized AH from the current guild trader setup, the exodus of guilds would probably be likened to a tsunami....


    I doubt that. Nobody plays MMOs to rack up billions of in game gold that's worthless outside of the game.

    If this was EVE, you'd have a point. <snipped for trolling/baiting>
    Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on May 19, 2023 7:38PM
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    Thormar wrote: »
    OP, do not listen to the nay sayers.
    An Auction house is coming; after spellcrafting, flying mounts, under water pvp and the full-on Tamriel wide justice system.

    I'm still hoping for a trip to Akavir first.
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    I've been a proponent of an auction house since i started playing ESO. I have mostly stopped shopping on the traders because of how painfully slow it is. I only shop the guilds I'm a member of, using the banker, and then it usually ends in frustration and I just give up.
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    That is very incorrect. A lot of people play MMORPGs for the purpose of collecting gold. It may be worthless outside of the game, but that pretty much applies to everything in the game. Even Achievements are worthless once you get away from the server that stores them.

    I am a strong proponent of guild based local commerce. I see no need for Amazon in the game, and I agree with Varanis in that I don't think the ESO server could handle such a thing.

    Then why does Zenimax allow websites like TTC act like Amazon? Why do they permit them to share the location of the items?!
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