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Please ZOS, remove Elk from Necrom!
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I mean, it's not too late to put the natural guar, kagouti, nix-oxen, and nix-hounds where they belong. But ZOS has proven to be rather resistant to change based upon player input... so we'll see.
Someone probably really wanted elk and crocodiles. At this point, rather than changing them out for something more typical of northern Morrowind mainland, I expect they will draft some Lore to explain why they aren't following their own Lore.Edited by Elsonso on April 22, 2023 12:16PM2 -
emilyhyoyeon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The weirdest thing about this to me is that there are already animals that exist in the game files or whatever that live in the Morrowind climate like kagouti and nix and everything else people have mentioned. It's not like there was a need to make a new animal from scratch. Putting an already-made Morrowind animal there is just as easy as the elk, so why the elk?IGN @ emilypumpkin, imperial pumpkin seller & ghost hunter
main TES character: Tullanisse Starborne, altmer battlemage & ayleid researcher9 -
Amphithoe✭✭✭✭✭I mean, what's to stop the Elk from migrating to the Telvanni Peninsula?
Guildmaster: School of Julianos0 -
Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I mean, what's to stop the Elk from migrating to the Telvanni Peninsula?
1. The distance
2. The fact that NO other region of Morrowind has elk and crocodiles
3. Morrowind is a very hostile environment
Need more reasons?12 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I mean, what's to stop the Elk from migrating to the Telvanni Peninsula?
Where did they come from? No elk in Bal Foyen. No elk in Deshaan. At least, not that I have ever seen. The area to the south is unknown, but there is a wide body of water separating them.
Now, crocodiles could have come up from Shadowfen and Black Marsh, but then they would also be found in Deshaan.
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Tyrvarion✭✭✭Now elks are quite weird but crocodiles in Morrowind do not feel all that much out of place, as i do remember npcs in TES3 actually likening Daedroths to crocodiles in some way. Ofc there's no crocodiles in that game, but npcs surely are somewhat familiar with them. There is also a crocodile in Shad Astula in ESO's Deshaan, but iirc its the only one in the entire zone.Edited by Tyrvarion on April 22, 2023 3:25PM3 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is rather interesting:"Necrom is found on a different peninsula found south of the Telvanni Peninsula, and the two are separated by an inlet....
The Telvanni Peninsula borders the Central Highlands region to the south, where Necrom is found."
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Telvanni_PeninsulaI mean, it's not too late to put the natural guar, kagouti, nix-oxen, and nix-hounds where they belong. But ZOS has proven to be rather resistant to change based upon player input... so we'll see.
Someone probably really wanted elk and crocodiles. At this point, rather than changing them out for something more typical of northern Morrowind mainland, I expect they will draft some Lore to explain why they aren't following their own Lore.
Well they certainly didn't draft any lore about why Bosmer suddenly became unstealthy, why Argonians instantly became susceptible to poison, how Legion Zero started using Yokudan banners as their flag, or how those sacrificed to save Tamriel in the main story magically reappeared as if nothing ever happened. So, I am really skeptical that any effort will be made to explain how elk adapted to the hostile environment in the shadows of Red Mountain and Ash Mountain.
But we can imagine the majestic creatures standing next to anemone writhing their tentacles and giant mushrooms oozing blood, and smile at the wonder of it all.RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.9 -
xclassgaming✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can agree with Crocodiles, they don't bother me, i think they fit at a push, but the Elk, no chance.Give us clannfear mounts!3 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The only mammals in Morrowind that I can tolerate are rodents, everything else better be a reptile or an invertebrate.
We could add more Netches instead. Obviously I would prefer a completely new creature that takes the biological niche of an elk but is just completely alien. Maybe a giant ladybug-like creature whose elytra are prized like the antlers of deer/elks? That could be pretty cool. You could probably even reuse the skeleton of the dwemer scarab for it.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.13 -
Amphithoe✭✭✭✭✭
I'd love more reasons, I'm a reasonable person!
Maybe they are an invasive species? Some entrepreneurial and diplomatic Nord might have brought them as gifts for the Telvanni nobles, and some fecund examples might have escaped and multiplied.Guildmaster: School of Julianos2 -
Ekzorka✭✭✭✭✭
To be honest, no one, in principle, will be able to live in lands forever covered with ashes, since absolutely everyone breathes air. But if we remove the eternal eruptions, we will get just a unique fauna, against which it is difficult to resist some other animals. And this, I think, is a much more logical explanation.BaalMelqartu wrote: »I'm no expert at Elder Scrolls lore but even from what I have read, it is sometimes mentioned that critters such as deer can't make their home in Morrowind well due to ash choked air and ground. Hence Dunmer farm things like Guar and even Netch that are more at home in the climate of Morrowind rather than things like horses.
A horse in the middle of the ashes sends "hello"
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mr_Jord_Joe wrote: »If they are easily adaptable in the real world, why not in the fictional one?
Adaptable, yes, but in order for them to be in that zone, it would seem that someone had to deliberately bring them there. Not saying that could not have happened. Realistically, the devs may have done it deliberately, or it could have been an oversight, or an unintended result from a copy/paste and TPTB did not want to fix it. Many possibilities, but I think that whatever reason they have, the highest probability outcome is that it will be "justified in the lore" and they will stay there.
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colossalvoids✭✭✭✭✭
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I'd love more reasons, I'm a reasonable person!
Maybe they are an invasive species? Some entrepreneurial and diplomatic Nord might have brought them as gifts for the Telvanni nobles, and some fecund examples might have escaped and multiplied.
It's kinda a cultural problem. There's bug shell and bone armour for a reason, horses that imperials rode were considered more of a dinner and something quite special and alien even, same as most other "usual" mammals, would probably include elk. Dunmeri lore illustrates harsh people in harsh environments, what they eat, wear, ride and herd way different species that are sturdy enough for the climate even though eso events are way prior to the worse climate conditions of tes3. There's nothing indicating that the zone is much different to Vvardenfell and there's really no bordering territories for a migration.
They can easily brush it off though with some future quest saying Rigurt brought some deer to the fascinated crowd with him but soon saw most of them served to his expedition as meals, but some are still walking around... Yet. That's something I was also thinking about myself.3 -
xclassgaming✭✭✭✭✭
✭The only mammals in Morrowind that I can tolerate are rodents, everything else better be a reptile or an invertebrate.
We could add more Netches instead. Obviously I would prefer a completely new creature that takes the biological niche of an elk but is just completely alien. Maybe a giant ladybug-like creature whose elytra are prized like the antlers of deer/elks? That could be pretty cool. You could probably even reuse the skeleton of the dwemer scarab for it.
Absolutely agree with this.Give us clannfear mounts!1 -
TheRimOfTheSky✭✭✭✭Could we get some cool looking guar enemies? There's a bunch of cool looking guar mounts we see NOWHERE in-game and this is a big opportunity to use them
Even some badass looking Kagouti enemies, we're starving here ZOS
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xclassgaming✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheRimOfTheSky wrote: »Could we get some cool looking guar enemies? There's a bunch of cool looking guar mounts we see NOWHERE in-game and this is a big opportunity to use them
Even some badass looking Kagouti enemies, we're starving here ZOS
Cmon zos, Magical fire Koguti in the Telvanni area writes it's self!Give us clannfear mounts!8 -
Aka_✭✭✭✭✭ZoS, PLEASE seriously consider changing this. It's a problem lore-wise and you have time to fix it. Please show us you care..5 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The more I play in the zone the less sense it makes to see majestic elk grazing next to pink and green mushrooms, a wamasu, some nix-ox, and a pink floating Cthulhu thing.RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.3 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Eh, Horses were extinct in North America until 500 years ago when they were brought over by explorers and colonizers and now they are fairly prevalent in the wild.
Not too much of a stretch to believe that elk found their way across a connected continent.1 -
BaalMelqartu✭✭✭✭Eh, Horses were extinct in North America until 500 years ago when they were brought over by explorers and colonizers and now they are fairly prevalent in the wild.
Not too much of a stretch to believe that elk found their way across a connected continent.
So you feel that if horses or in this case elk, were introduced to an ash choked ground and atmosphere without appropriate food as it cannot grow in that terrain , they would thrive?1 -
Synaryn✭✭✭BaalMelqartu wrote: »Eh, Horses were extinct in North America until 500 years ago when they were brought over by explorers and colonizers and now they are fairly prevalent in the wild.
Not too much of a stretch to believe that elk found their way across a connected continent.
So you feel that if horses or in this case elk, were introduced to an ash choked ground and atmosphere without appropriate food as it cannot grow in that terrain , they would thrive?
Not to mention Dunmer see horses and the like as exotic delicacies.2 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Eh, Horses were extinct in North America until 500 years ago when they were brought over by explorers and colonizers and now they are fairly prevalent in the wild.
Not too much of a stretch to believe that elk found their way across a connected continent.
In that case there should be elk in the lava fields of Stonefalls, the desert of Elsweyr, and the swamps of Murkmire as well.RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.0 -
BaalMelqartu✭✭✭✭Eh, Horses were extinct in North America until 500 years ago when they were brought over by explorers and colonizers and now they are fairly prevalent in the wild.
Not too much of a stretch to believe that elk found their way across a connected continent.
In that case there should be elk in the lava fields of Stonefalls, the desert of Elsweyr, and the swamps of Murkmire as well.
Time for a warm frolic!7 -
Synaryn✭✭✭BaalMelqartu wrote: »Eh, Horses were extinct in North America until 500 years ago when they were brought over by explorers and colonizers and now they are fairly prevalent in the wild.
Not too much of a stretch to believe that elk found their way across a connected continent.
In that case there should be elk in the lava fields of Stonefalls, the desert of Elsweyr, and the swamps of Murkmire as well.
Time for a warm frolic!
This is the funniest thing I've seen all day.3 -
BaalMelqartu✭✭✭✭BaalMelqartu wrote: »Eh, Horses were extinct in North America until 500 years ago when they were brought over by explorers and colonizers and now they are fairly prevalent in the wild.
Not too much of a stretch to believe that elk found their way across a connected continent.
In that case there should be elk in the lava fields of Stonefalls, the desert of Elsweyr, and the swamps of Murkmire as well.
Time for a warm frolic!
This is the funniest thing I've seen all day.
I can't take credit for the drawing but thanks!2 -
Mr_Jord_Joe✭✭✭Tell your secrets, elk, how did you end up here, and how did you survive until now!?
Edited by Mr_Jord_Joe on April 27, 2023 12:25AM22 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Elk look a lot more natural and cohesive alongside bears and wolves than they do with nix-oxen, guars, and floating jellyfish.
Please.... don't let this travesty go live!RIP Bosmer Nation. 4/4/14 - 2/25/19.7 -
Rex-Umbra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Unrelated but next northern zone needs moose 🫎 and moose mountXbox GT: Rex Umbrah
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