Please ZOS, remove Elk from Necrom!

xclassgaming · April 18

Title really, seeing Elk in the wilds of Morrowind just looks so, so wrong. Quite immersion breaking as well, please remove them and replace them with other things, Guar for instance?

LunaFlora · April 18

why is it immersion breaking?

Marto · April 18

Honestly, I agree. The Telvanni Peninsula already has enough critters running around, anyway.

xclassgaming · April 19

LunaFlora wrote: »

why is it immersion breaking?

Because, Elk do not fit in Morrowind, it's suppose to be alien, not mundane. Elk are mundane, they do not fit.

Salix_alba · April 19

I kind of liked seeing them. They do not quite seem like they should be there but the land looks like an old forest at some places so it could work.

Faulgor · April 19

"Immersion breaking" might be a bit strong, but they certainly stood out. I'm not sure how they got there.

Ratzkifal · April 19

I would expect elk in western Morrowind, crossing the border from Skyrim. I wouldn't exactly expect them in the eastern parts.

xclassgaming · April 19

Ratzkifal wrote: »

I would expect elk in western Morrowind, crossing the border from Skyrim. I wouldn't exactly expect them in the eastern parts.

I agree, i would still find it pushing it alittle, but if they showed up there i could see alittle bit of bleed over between the provinces, but this far out? no chance.

xclassgaming · April 20

Bump for visibility.

BaalMelqartu · April 20

I'm no expert at Elder Scrolls lore but even from what I have read, it is sometimes mentioned that critters such as deer can't make their home in Morrowind well due to ash choked air and ground. Hence Dunmer farm things like Guar and even Netch that are more at home in the climate of Morrowind rather than things like horses.
-This could be why some people feel that elk are immersion breaking.
Even if you google "Elder Scrolls Morrowind animals", you'll not see deer and elk and the like but you'll see all the things suited for the environment.

I guess I don't have an opinion on whether or not the elk should be there but I CAN see why some people would think it odd.

Kendaric · April 20

Yeah, the elk make absolutely no sense there, they feel completely out of place.

Soraka · April 20

As much as I love elk, this does sound jarring.

EramTheLiar · April 20

Look, Rigurt was just trying to improve the relations with telvanni through cultural exchange, it's not his fault the cargo ship full of authentic Skyrim fauna crashed on the shoreline. He's almost collected all the sabretooths. And bears.

TheNuminous1 · April 20

EramTheLiar wrote: »

Look, Rigurt was just trying to improve the relations with telvanni through cultural exchange, it's not his fault the cargo ship full of authentic Skyrim fauna crashed on the shoreline. He's almost collected all the sabretooths. And bears.

This is the take Zos is going to use 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

Faulgor · April 20

Ratzkifal wrote: »

I would expect elk in western Morrowind, crossing the border from Skyrim. I wouldn't exactly expect them in the eastern parts.

They probably wandered in during the Dawn era, before the volcanoes in Stonefalls erupted.
Afterwards, the Stonefalls population died out, whereas some still survived in the more verdant and hospitable Telvanni Peninsula, now being cut off from the main population back in Skyrim. Given enough time, they will probably evolve into a different species, uniquely adapted to the mushroom forests of Necrom.

At least that'll be my head canon unless they fix it.

Kendaric · April 20

Faulgor wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

I would expect elk in western Morrowind, crossing the border from Skyrim. I wouldn't exactly expect them in the eastern parts.

They probably wandered in during the Dawn era, before the volcanoes in Stonefalls erupted.
Afterwards, the Stonefalls population died out, whereas some still survived in the more verdant and hospitable Telvanni Peninsula, now being cut off from the main population back in Skyrim. Given enough time, they will probably evolve into a different species, uniquely adapted to the mushroom forests of Necrom.

At least that'll be my head canon unless they fix it.

There's just one tiny problem with that... it's hard to reproduce without females

Aliyavana · April 20

I agree, the environment of Morrowind should not suit them. These elk just look wrong

TheRimOfTheSky · April 20

There is a reason why horses, another type of hooved animal, are not found in Morrowind:

On horses in Morrowind (2001-04-09)
Sorry, the Empire got smart and discontinued use of horses in Morrowind. For 2 main reasons....

1: The environment is not suitable for horses. The ashy air creates bad vegetation for horses and upon munching on grass and such, they drop dead. Ashgut sounds like a good term for the ash/gastro poisoning. Imagine having charcoal fill up your digestive tract. Cant be a pretty picture, especially when black goo starts leaking from every hole on your body, right before you pop.

2: Dark Elves find horses to be a great dish. The Alpo Bistro! No Imperial guard wants to walk outside his house and see a Dark Elven family picnicking on his steed.

The Empire adopted using Guar and Silt Striders since they are more indigenous to the area. In many cases, Guar and Siltstriders are more advantageous than horses anyways.

Since horses cannot adapt to Vvardenfell's harsh climate, sabers are uncommon, except among Legion veterans."

It is obvious elks were thrown in because the dev team spent all their resources making Daedra for Apocrypha instead. Next time we go to Morrowind, I wanna see sand kwooms, Velks, Skylamps, parraptons, N'chorbal, weird looking giant bugs, the whole deal. Not whatever Vvardenfell do-over we got.

Aminatu · April 21

I don't have a problem with elks in the peninsula. I figure they were imported. Throughout history, travelers/merchants/settlers etc have brought new animals to different places. So, maybe some of the Telvani liked the way elk looked and brought them over. Some escaped and they are out in the wild.

Pelanora · April 21

Mushrooms don't have the structural integrity to get as big as they are in morrowind, too soft to carry the weight at that size. But the elk, yes.

HappyTheCamper · April 21

xclassgaming wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

why is it immersion breaking?

Because, Elk do not fit in Morrowind, it's suppose to be alien, not mundane. Elk are mundane, they do not fit.

I could see Redoran/Blacklight territory having them, but yea maybe the Telvanni Peninsula isn’t a good idea.

Kendaric · April 21

It's not just the elk that shouldn't be there by the way, I've encountered crocodiles as well.

xclassgaming · April 21

HappyTheCamper wrote: »

xclassgaming wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

why is it immersion breaking?

Because, Elk do not fit in Morrowind, it's suppose to be alien, not mundane. Elk are mundane, they do not fit.

I could see Redoran/Blacklight territory having them, but yea maybe the Telvanni Peninsula isn’t a good idea.

Oh yes, like mentioned before, on that side i still wouldn't like it, however i could justify it as some wandered across the border from Skyrim, that's quite possible. But i cannot justify it on the side the Peninsula is on.

Please ZOS, remove the Elk!

Mokubahv · April 22

I do have to agree it really was weird and immersion breaking when I saw the elks on the Penninsula. I tried to convince myself it was okay, but it really is wrong for the climate.

I would suggest that, if the developers insist on having some kind of deer like creature, how about creating some weird spore deer that looks like those "meat horses" we got for pre-ordering? Some strange mushroom experiment product by a Telvanni wizard would at least make more sense in the land.

Jaraal · April 22

Well, since the "Telvanni Peninsula" zone is actually Eastern Morrowind mainland, perhaps the Telvanni people have conspired with Hermaeus Mora to take the Indoril homeland over, and have transformed the natives into elk out of spite. I mean, it makes as much sense as anything else as to why the non-native fauna is there.

I mean, it's not too late to put the natural guar, kagouti, nix-oxen, and nix-hounds where they belong. But ZOS has proven to be rather resistant to change based upon player input... so we'll see.

xclassgaming · April 22

Mokubahv wrote: »

I do have to agree it really was weird and immersion breaking when I saw the elks on the Penninsula. I tried to convince myself it was okay, but it really is wrong for the climate.

I would suggest that, if the developers insist on having some kind of deer like creature, how about creating some weird spore deer that looks like those "meat horses" we got for pre-ordering? Some strange mushroom experiment product by a Telvanni wizard would at least make more sense in the land.

Honestly, i'd rather they just import those shroom horses, get another use out of them.

Aminatu · April 22

For those who are opposed to elk, what creatures would you like to see as replacements?

Kendaric · April 22

Aminatu wrote: »

For those who are opposed to elk, what creatures would you like to see as replacements?

Basically: Creatures that appear naturally in Morrowind... like alits, various kinds of guar, nix-hounds, giant spiders, beetles and dreugh.

And no, the last thing I want to see are spore horses or spore elk/deer or other weird butt ugly retextures like that.

DinoZavr · April 22

i can not say "second this" as i am roughly "dozened this", but i also support OP's claim
Elks do not belong to Morrowind zones. The later are unique biomes, let them say unique, please.
@ZOS

colossalvoids · April 22

@ZOS_Kevin
It's not a joke post that it might seem at first to some, it's actually not making any sense lorewise and probably is just an oversight that should be either corrected or explained by new loremaster in some future article.

xclassgaming · April 22

Aminatu wrote: »

For those who are opposed to elk, what creatures would you like to see as replacements?

Guar.