Araneae, account-wide achievements is quite a different topic.
Companions levels, skills, and gear are account-wide
Unlocking quest adds zero value to players, as it is exactly the same for any character.
We just pay with our time for unlocking Companions on different Characters. why.
Account-wide Achievements looks like a catastrophe for me, as i kills a serious chunk of RP (sorry, Zenimax)
I understand AWA helped to reduce the size of databases (not 20x achievement + timestamp, but 1x achevement, timestamp, character name), but this is still cruel as it destroys a lot of personality of each of the characters.
I'd like companions to be unlocked account wide for sure. When I start an alt, I usually like to play through the story in order, which means traversing the zones in order. But that doesn't work if I want a companion because then I have to go to Blackwood or High Isle first, just to pick them up. That makes no sense from a story perspective.
You don't have to follow any part of the story just to pick up a companion, you simply visit the zone which is always there whether or not you visit it, as is the only quest you need to take. Then again, you don't actually need to pick up a companion at that stage if you prefer not to.
Also, if you're going to take the singular progression of that character so faithfully as to not to want to visit a zone out of sequence to that character's story, where would an account-wide companion come from and how would you explain it to yourself? Basing that character's knowledge of Blackwood or High Isle on your other characters' experiences there would surely be no different to basing that character's availability of a companion on those other characters' experiences.
You don't have to follow any part of the story just to pick up a companion, you simply visit the zone which is always there whether or not you visit it, as is the only quest you need to take. Then again, you don't actually need to pick up a companion at that stage if you prefer not to.
Also, if you're going to take the singular progression of that character so faithfully as to not to want to visit a zone out of sequence to that character's story, where would an account-wide companion come from and how would you explain it to yourself? Basing that character's knowledge of Blackwood or High Isle on your other characters' experiences there would surely be no different to basing that character's availability of a companion on those other characters' experiences.
One of my other characters would introduce them to my alt. I see all my characters as a family. They all know each other.
"Hey, this is Mirri. I met her when I was in Blackwood," says my main. Makes more sense than, "Hey, when I was in Blackwood, I met Mirri and now I adventure with her. If you want to do the same, you'll have to go to Blackwood and help her out exactly the same way I helped her out. And I do mean exactly."
(And yes, I don't want to visit zones out of sequence when I'm working through the story, even if it's just doing one quest there.)
SilverBride wrote: »If one character unlocks a Companion and levels its rapport enough for the houseguest wouldn't all characters be able to place the houseguest in their house? Even though they never unlocked the Companion themselves?
This is just another reason it makes sense to have them unlocked account wide.
Araneae6537 wrote: »I would prefer there to be more choices and interaction options with companions, including in the intro quests to make it more interesting and meaningful to do more than once. I was quite disappointed that in Mirri’s quest, neither she nor the Argonian recognize your race, even though it would make sense in the dialogue to include your character or not in talking about Dunmer.
MreeBiPolar wrote: »Araneae6537 wrote: »I would prefer there to be more choices and interaction options with companions, including in the intro quests to make it more interesting and meaningful to do more than once. I was quite disappointed that in Mirri’s quest, neither she nor the Argonian recognize your race, even though it would make sense in the dialogue to include your character or not in talking about Dunmer.
Funny you mention wishing for choices and doing the intro quest more than once being meaningful almost in the same sentence as Mirri. She's the only one who actuall DOES have that in her intro quest.
If rapport is account wide, then that means we will never be able to see their growth quests ever again after only doing it once.
If companion unlock is account wide, then that means we will never be able to see their intro quesrs ever again after only doing it once.
I do not like this. Especially since Mirri's intro quest has alternative endings. I like the option to be able to repeat stories if I want to.
I understand that some people only see companions in terms of their utility and don't care about the RP aspects of it, but I know a great many people in the RP community feel like AWA already took a lot of the RP aspects from the game. This is one of the remaining things left.
Please....for the love of everything...please make it optional. Please make it so that there's some sort of way to replay quests.
Necrotech_Master wrote: »If rapport is account wide, then that means we will never be able to see their growth quests ever again after only doing it once.
If companion unlock is account wide, then that means we will never be able to see their intro quesrs ever again after only doing it once.
I do not like this. Especially since Mirri's intro quest has alternative endings. I like the option to be able to repeat stories if I want to.
I understand that some people only see companions in terms of their utility and don't care about the RP aspects of it, but I know a great many people in the RP community feel like AWA already took a lot of the RP aspects from the game. This is one of the remaining things left.
Please....for the love of everything...please make it optional. Please make it so that there's some sort of way to replay quests.
just because the companion is unlocked and useable does not mean you wont be able to do their quest, the quest is a normal POI location in the zone, it should not matter if you can summon the companion or not
the companion technically IS unlocked account wide (added to your collection menu) after completing the quest the first time, they just added the inane requirement of completing the quest on every character to actually summon them (after the first time you clear their quest, other toons can automatically accept the quest from the collection menu, but still an extra ridiculous step that shouldnt be needed)
disintegr8 wrote: »I think the start quest for Ember and Bastion are short enough not to bother me, Mirri's was borderline, but Isobel's is just a tedious run around. I do have Mirri and Bastion on all 18 characters but a few still don't have Isobel and Ember.
I also don't understand why skills and character levels are account wide when rapport is not but considering you don't really need to level up rapport, it's not a big deal (I'm only doing it once for each companion for the achievements).
It's currently no different than having to start Scrying and Psijic on all characters, although Scrying is extremely quick to start, both are extremely tedious to level up, making them less appealing to do on all characters.
While there's a lot of tedious repetition in running multiple characters, it's a choice you make, and I'd hate to see absolutely everything become account wide.
DarcyMardin wrote: »I agree that doing the same quests over and over again for each character (and I have multiple accounts and *many* characters), is excessively tedious and annoying. And this gets worse and worse as new companions are introduced.
Have mercy on us, ZOS, and make the unlock quests account-wide.