Let companions be account wide after the first.

Somber97866

In my opinion the companions should be able to be used by all toons on your account after one toon has successfully done the mission to obtain them.
Why would I want to do the same mission over 10times? Why should I have too? It's ridiculous and should be changed.

kargen27

You should have to if you want the companion. MMOs survive in part on players repeating content. Making everything account wide wouldn't be healthy for the game.

rabidmyers

play less characters, easy solution

tacypoc

While I don't TOTALLY mind having to repeat quests (I like questing) it would be cool if it were just a shorter version...something like your characters who has done it introduces the other characters to them...but that'll never happen haha

Elsonso

Somber97866 wrote: »

In my opinion the companions should be able to be used by all toons on your account after one toon has successfully done the mission to obtain them.
Why would I want to do the same mission over 10times? Why should I have too? It's ridiculous and should be changed.

Agreed. This is why I didn't unlock the Blackwood companions on all my characters. Seemed like a waste of time to go through all the unlock quest for every character given the account wide nature of them.

DarcyMardin

I agree that doing the same quests over and over again for each character (and I have multiple accounts and *many* characters), is excessively tedious and annoying. And this gets worse and worse as new companions are introduced.

Have mercy on us, ZOS, and make the unlock quests account-wide.

Nestor

You don't have to level the companion again. All the story quests after the dungeon that you find them in does is boost their affinity. If you have already unlocked that, then you can put them in your house with any character.

The small bonus they give you is questionable as a justification to do the story again.

However their utility as a Healer or a Tank is worth the 20 minutes or so to get them to be a companion.

WetYoda

tacypoc wrote: »

While I don't TOTALLY mind having to repeat quests (I like questing) it would be cool if it were just a shorter version...something like your characters who has done it introduces the other characters to them...but that'll never happen haha

We'll probably see it as a crown store purchase, similar to unlocking skill lines or wayshrines.

Unlcok X compnaion on one character and then pay Y crowns to unlock them instantly on additional characters.

They might even extend it to unlocking skill lines for those companions for extra monetization.

Castagere

I only have 4 max-level characters. The thought of making another that's going through the same quest again is not happening for me. Heck, I have to even wonder if the sub.is even worth it. The simplest things are a grind in ESO with a spend of real money option to skip the grind. In fact, the upcoming expansion isn't even important to me now. Just knowing if I make a new class they will have to slog through the same old content again. MMOs need options. You can skip the tutorial so why not skip the main quest if you have done it before? It's just not the main quest it's being forced to have the Cadwell questline to do over to. No other mmo makes you do mount training. It's just another stupid way to get real money.

Hapexamendios

Got 18 characters. Only one has all of them unlocked and maxed rapport. Just isn't necessary for all my characters.

Dr_Con

I don't think anyone would mind if there was a crown store purchase to unlock per character (it'd be a ripoff) or a collectable where you could summon a companion who doubles as a yes-man for all your adventures, whom you cannot gain or lose rapport with.

Rageypoo

Making the unlock account wide wouldn't affect the health of the game lol you've all gotta get over that buzzword.

Want to RP it? Make it a repeatable quest, with the companion unlocked permanently but you can repeat the quest as you wish. Then you can go RP to your heart's content

kargen27

Rageypoo wrote: »

Making the unlock account wide wouldn't affect the health of the game lol you've all gotta get over that buzzword.

Want to RP it? Make it a repeatable quest, with the companion unlocked permanently but you can repeat the quest as you wish. Then you can go RP to your heart's content

An MMO needs three things for long term viability.

New content
Players repeating content
Players participating in a variety of content.

Making more things account wide takes away two of the three. Not a buzzword just the nature of the beast.

Rageypoo

We have more than enough repeat content with trials, dungeons, dailies, antiquities, tribute, etc.

Repeating the companion unlock is not fun, there is nothing new or rewarding in doing it, and therefor an unecessary burden on the player. It's time to move forward and unlock it account wide.

Elsonso

kargen27 wrote: »

Rageypoo wrote: »

Making the unlock account wide wouldn't affect the health of the game lol you've all gotta get over that buzzword.

Want to RP it? Make it a repeatable quest, with the companion unlocked permanently but you can repeat the quest as you wish. Then you can go RP to your heart's content

An MMO needs three things for long term viability.

New content
Players repeating content
Players participating in a variety of content.

Making more things account wide takes away two of the three. Not a buzzword just the nature of the beast.

I'm sure that is what they are thinking, but unlocking the companion on 18 characters sounds terribly annoying, given that they are account wide, except for rapport.

Rageypoo

Rapport should be account wide as well.

TaSheen

*shrug* The whole companion thing is - just weird. *shakes head* I mean, it was weird in the single player games, and it's even weirder here....

Personally, I've never had any interest in the "sidekick" thing. Maybe it would make my life with lag easier.... but I just can't be bothered. I hate sidekicks....

Grizzbeorn

Rageypoo wrote: »

Rapport should be account wide as well.

I think rapport is fine, as is.
Account-wide unlock? Very much Yes, please.

But there is logic to each character having to establish their own rapport with a companion.

phaneub17_ESO

Rageypoo wrote: »

Rapport should be account wide as well.

No, because some of us like to intentionally either keep them in the middle (Bastian's potion keepsake buff off) or have one character intentionally reduce their Rapport to Hated to see their speech and reaction differences.

DinoZavr

Account unlock is a good idea.
we can skip Cyrodiil tutorial,
with new updates now having one character completed ToT tutorial, others can skip playing pre-determined game with Brahgas just by telling Master Razhamad they need no tutorial

i read the opinion that extra 20 minutes are OK, however:
Ember's and Isobel's quests are longer than Mirri's and Bastian's
Two new companions are upcoming with the new Chapter
We will get 2 more character slots.
Hope you understood me: number of characters will grow, number of Companions will increase
20 characters x 6 Companions x 20 minutes = 40 hours
just repeating the same standard procedures with nothing new. looks like tedious job, rather than having fun, yes?

MreeBiPolar

If not immediate unlock, then maybe unlock them for all characters when you get that companion's upgrade.

Nestor

DinoZavr wrote: »

Account unlock is a good idea.

Hope you understood me: number of characters will grow, number of Companions will increase
20 characters x 6 Companions x 20 minutes = 40 hours
just repeating the same standard procedures with nothing new. looks like tedious job, rather than having fun, yes?

Do you Need or Want all companions on all characters?

If you satisfy your Needs, no where near 40 hours. Satisfying Wants? That takes the time it needs to take.

ArchangelIsraphel

This should only be a thing if it is OPTIONAL. I'm sick of account wide stuff. Some of us actually want to play the game and do the quests.

Tandor

I don't agree with this proposal, far too much in the game has been made account-wide as it is. Removing the ability to work differently on your companions would make it even less attractive to run multiple characters than it already is, and there's no reason at all why if you've unlocked all the characters - whether on one character or spread across your characters - you need to unlock them all on every character. If you want a particular companion running with a particular character it's easy enough to put in the limited effort required to unlock it.

AcadianPaladin

While I understand the perspective of those who don't care for account wide stuff, I like account wide very much. I suspect that is due to my approach to the game. I have one little elf I have played since 2007 (Oblivion, Skyrim, ESO). She exists in ESO as several variants (class/specs) in ESO but from her perspective, she selects staves or bows and which skills to slot while moving from class to class as casually as she changes her costume or hairstyle. Effectively, each variant is the same character so, for our approach, account wide everything makes perfect sense.

Perhaps some options regarding what is account wide and what is not might be a reasonable approach toward satisfying more than one legitimate view on account wide?

kargen27

Rageypoo wrote: »

We have more than enough repeat content with trials, dungeons, dailies, antiquities, tribute, etc.

Repeating the companion unlock is not fun, there is nothing new or rewarding in doing it, and therefor an unecessary burden on the player. It's time to move forward and unlock it account wide.

Many see making things account wide as not going forward but actually making a huge mistake that has a negative impact on the game.
THe account wide achievements being forced on players was a travesty taking away quite a bit of repeatability from the game. That is a bad thing not a move forward.

VvwvenomwvV

Why not give the option to skip like in the beginning of the main story? That way if a player who has already done it can skip it, and if someone still wants to do it can still so it.

Ei8htba11

I don't like AWA myself, so will happily redo the Companion quests as and when I need to. Rewards such as skins etc.. sure, titles I prefer to earn them on each character (as well as the 'trust' of the companions)

If you create a weak build or character, how will you know until you do the content and earn the reward (or not, requiring a rethink of the stats and abilities). The companion quests aren't long, and if you have done it once even on a low level character can be rushed through easily.

But, that's my opinion

Caligamy_ESO

Why not just add an option to skip and complete the quest if its already been completed once? That way people who want to watch the same show over and over again can, and others can get on with their character building.

DinoZavr

VvwvenomwvV wrote: »

Why not give the option to skip like in the beginning of the main story? That way if a player who has already done it can skip it, and if someone still wants to do it can still so it.

VvwvenomwvV, this is exactly why only 6 or 7 of my Characters got the Main quest done.
No doubt, it is EPIC, but people are different. I do not enjoy repetitions and, thus the rest 12 of my toons still have "Talk to the hooded figure" in theirs active quests list.
In my humble opinion there is some reasonable number of repeating the same thing (even if it is a great thing) after you simply get bored.
The gaming is about fun, and the new sensations are so much valuable, while repeating all the same stuff is not much fun.
yes, i did Psijic storyline a LOT of times, (as i am too poor to purchase the said skill line for Crowns), because i want this Redo ultimate for soloing harder content (like overcoming cocoon in CoH2), but even that Augur is damn cute and adorable, i felt really bored on the 8th repetition.

TaSheen

DinoZavr wrote: »

VvwvenomwvV wrote: »

Why not give the option to skip like in the beginning of the main story? That way if a player who has already done it can skip it, and if someone still wants to do it can still so it.

VvwvenomwvV, this is exactly why only 6 or 7 of my Characters got the Main quest done.
No doubt, it is EPIC, but people are different. I do not enjoy repetitions and, thus the rest 12 of my toons still have "Talk to the hooded figure" in theirs active quests list.
In my humble opinion there is some reasonable number of repeating the same thing (even if it is a great thing) after you simply get bored.
The gaming is about fun, and the new sensations are so much valuable, while repeating all the same stuff is not much fun.
yes, i did Psijic storyline a LOT of times, (as i am too poor to purchase the said skill line for Crowns), because i want this Redo ultimate for soloing harder content (like overcoming cocoon in CoH2), but even that Augur is damn cute and adorable, i felt really bored on the 8th repetition.

I did the game MQ on my main on each of my first two accounts on PC NA. Not touching it on the rest or the mains on PC EU. I've got a third account now, but I have a feeling I'm not touching it on any of those either. It wasn't fun, it wasn't engaging, and getting shoved willy nilly into Cadwell's follow-ons was another bummer.