Never have the threads of fate become so twisted...

ZOS_Kevin · January 20

https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/1616442936065167365

"Never have the threads of fate become so twisted. Two worlds hang in the balance. Come, champion. Let us preserve what threatens to unravel, like pages tossed in a roaring fire.""
Developer_Direct & ESO Global Reveal - Jan. 25 @ 3pm EST twitch.tv/bethesda"

Faulgor · January 20

Yup, that's the Woodland Man alright.

BloodyStigmata · January 20

Spooky mist and eldritch white noise?

I have a feeling we're gonna get whipped by some slimy tentacles again.

metheglyn · January 20

I'll be pretty disappointed if we have to muck about with Hermaeus Mora. He ranks only second after Sheogorath as the most irritating character I've ever encountered.

Syldras · January 20

Definitively Innsmouth

SilverIce58 · January 20

Ooooh this means eldritch-looking daedra. Since memory is water, i can't wait to see what new daedra variants we get. Hopefully we get some real cool looking ones. And maybe a Herma-Mora statue for our homes too.

chessalavakia_ESO · January 20

metheglyn wrote: »

I'll be pretty disappointed if we have to muck about with Hermaeus Mora. He ranks only second after Sheogorath as the most irritating character I've ever encountered.

Yeah, I might skip this years expansion if it looks to be mostly him and doesn't have much else of interest.

From an RP perspective, few of my characters would actually interact with him because he's creepy.

The thing is, we already have an existing quest in ESO where

he has questionable dealings with his mortal partner and then stiffs us

so I'm unsure of why even my characters that are a bit slow and ignored the creepy behavior would work with him either from an RP perspective as he didn't appear to exactly be "reliable".

SantieClaws · January 20

Threads of fate you say?

This is going to involve lots of yarn isn't it!

Finally a whole chapter of wool based larks and pounces!

This one is very pleased

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

VaranisArano · January 20

Varanis Arano: "Do I really have to ally with Hermaeus Mora to save the world?"

Hermaeus Mora: "My records show you've allied with Meridia, Clavicus Vile, Mephala, and other lesser daedra in the past."

"That was different."

"And that you also became both a werewolf and a vampire for dyes and achievements. So what's your problem?

"...fine, sign me up."

Danikat · January 20

VaranisArano wrote: »

Varanis Arano: "Do I really have to ally with Hermaeus Mora to save the world?"

Hermaeus Mora: "My records show you've allied with Meridia, Clavicus Vile, Mephala, and other lesser daedra in the past."

"That was different."

"And that you also became both a werewolf and a vampire for dyes and achievements. So what's your problem?

"...fine, sign me up."

Oh, now I really like the idea of Hermaeus Mora breaking the 4th wall at some point. He's supposed to have access to forbidden and unknowable information, and that would be a good way to demonstrate it.

Vrienda · January 20

If Hermaeus Mora winds up being another dumb Daedric Prince boss fight I'm gonna lose it. Please don't do him dirty.

Lumenn · January 20

SantieClaws wrote: »

Threads of fate you say?

This is going to involve lots of yarn isn't it!

Finally a whole chapter of wool based larks and pounces!

This one is very pleased

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Your charm has been missed, glad to see you back 😉

Soarora · January 20

Back to dark promotional material again! I liked the light but Hermaeus Mora was one of the Daedric Princes I wished got more spotlight since he only has one quest in ESO that I know of and it’s a public dungeon. I hope the writing quality pulls through and does him justice.

Faulgor · January 20

Danikat wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Varanis Arano: "Do I really have to ally with Hermaeus Mora to save the world?"

Hermaeus Mora: "My records show you've allied with Meridia, Clavicus Vile, Mephala, and other lesser daedra in the past."

"That was different."

"And that you also became both a werewolf and a vampire for dyes and achievements. So what's your problem?

"...fine, sign me up."

Oh, now I really like the idea of Hermaeus Mora breaking the 4th wall at some point. He's supposed to have access to forbidden and unknowable information, and that would be a good way to demonstrate it.

Careful, you're getting into "why doesn't Hermaeus Mora have CHIM?" territory.

Billium813 · January 20

Vrienda wrote: »

If Hermaeus Mora winds up being another dumb Daedric Prince boss fight I'm gonna lose it. Please don't do him dirty.

I seriously doubt Hermaeus Mora will be directly attacking anything. Hopefully, itll be deeper then that considering this will be the start of a multi-year story arc.

Jaraal · January 20

The Prince of Fate who rules a realm of endless pages.

Maybe we can finally get an Oghma Infinium furnishing for our houses!

Finedaible · January 20

I hope they handle Hermaeus Mora better than they handled Nocturnal so far, but I don't think Mora is a likely antagonist. At least I hope they don't make him the antagonist as that ploy of a Daedric Prince conquering Tamriel is staler than 8 year old bread now. Mora typically seems interested in hoarding knowledge by dealing with mortal champions even if it takes unethical means to do so.

Anyway, no matter what happens I just hope the plot is taken seriously and hopefully with more maturity this time (TESO is rated M for mature after all). Marvel-like plots with one-dimensional villains is writing fit for toddlers.

Syldras · January 20

Billium813 wrote: »

I seriously doubt Hermaeus Mora will be directly attacking anything.

Especially considering the letter (from a few days ago) seems to be adressed to the player character and a Hermaeus Mora cultist is asking us for cooperation against an unknown evil.

Finedaible wrote: »

Anyway, no matter what happens I just hope the plot is taken seriously and hopefully with more maturity this time (TESO is rated M for mature after all). Marvel-like plots with one-dimensional villains is writing fit for toddlers.

"Mature" doesn't say anything about the quality of writing, unfortunately. ESO is M-rated because: "Blood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Use of Alcohol, Violence".

Kirawolfe · January 20

I'm excited!

I can't play the game properly, but I'm excited!

BretonMage · January 20

Soarora wrote: »

Back to dark promotional material again! I liked the light but Hermaeus Mora was one of the Daedric Princes I wished got more spotlight since he only has one quest in ESO that I know of and it’s a public dungeon. I hope the writing quality pulls through and does him justice.

Me too. I used to wish we had more quests with him involved, but now I'm wondering if perhaps Hermaeus Mora should remain mysterious. It's hard to give any topic in ESO the kind of gravity he deserves.

TaSheen · January 20

Soarora wrote: »

Back to dark promotional material again! I liked the light but Hermaeus Mora was one of the Daedric Princes I wished got more spotlight since he only has one quest in ESO that I know of and it’s a public dungeon. I hope the writing quality pulls through and does him justice.

According to UESP, there's at least three - looks like one in each faction, plus the Seeker's Archive in Craglorn:

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Hermaeus_Mora

Lady_Galadhiel · January 20

Glad this was shared on the Forum too and not only on Twitter or other social media platforms.

SilverIce58 · January 20

Finedaible wrote: »

I hope they handle Hermaeus Mora better than they handled Nocturnal so far, but I don't think Mora is a likely antagonist. At least I hope they don't make him the antagonist as that ploy of a Daedric Prince conquering Tamriel is staler than 8 year old bread now. Mora typically seems interested in hoarding knowledge by dealing with mortal champions even if it takes unethical means to do so.

Anyway, no matter what happens I just hope the plot is taken seriously and hopefully with more maturity this time (TESO is rated M for mature after all). Marvel-like plots with one-dimensional villains is writing fit for toddlers.

It's already going to be better than Nocturnal as Mora won't have the absolute worst character model in the game for a powerful Daedric Prince like Nocturnal does.

Elsonso · January 20

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

Glad this was shared on the Forum too and not only on Twitter or other social media platforms.

Agreed. Normally stuff like this is carried to the forum by someone because they find it out on the internet somewhere, like the letters that came out. Kudos to Kevin for getting in here with this quickly.

ZOS_Kevin · January 20

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

Glad this was shared on the Forum too and not only on Twitter or other social media platforms.

Just wanted to follow up on this. We do try to filter as much to the forum as possible. Sometimes it isn't possible because of forum limitation, but most of the time, we do share stuff like this on the forum. However, we often share it in our News section.

We posted this here in the general section today as it isn't "news" by technical definition. But we're glad more ppl are seeing it.

CameraBeardThePirate · January 20

Hopefully a Mora themed update means a buff to the useless Mora's Whispers mythic wink wink nudge nudge

dimensional · January 20

chessalavakia_ESO wrote: »

metheglyn wrote: »

I'll be pretty disappointed if we have to muck about with Hermaeus Mora. He ranks only second after Sheogorath as the most irritating character I've ever encountered.

Yeah, I might skip this years expansion if it looks to be mostly him and doesn't have much else of interest.

From an RP perspective, few of my characters would actually interact with him because he's creepy.

The thing is, we already have an existing quest in ESO where
he has questionable dealings with his mortal partner and then stiffs us
so I'm unsure of why even my characters that are a bit slow and ignored the creepy behavior would work with him either from an RP perspective as he didn't appear to exactly be "reliable".

Speak for yourself, I absolutely love Hermaeus Mora and I would be extremely excited and happy if the new expansion involves him in any capacity.

roykirkb14_ESO · January 20

metheglyn wrote: »

...second after Sheogorath as the most irritating character I've ever encountered.

Blasphemy. Sheogorath is best NPC.

Jaimeh · January 20

We've been discussing in discords what the two worlds could be, if it's meant in a cosmological sense, like we might visit an aedric place, or in a geographical sense, like if we might visit a new continent... Either way, the hype is real!

Syldras · January 20

I don't think the "two worlds" thing means something too fancy, to be honest. Probably the most obvious thing if Hermaeus Mora calls us: Apocrypha and Nirn.

The remaining question is where on Nirn it will take place (as for sure we won't spend the whole chapter in Apocrypha). I still assume it will be some Telvanni place. Maybe not the Telvanni Peninsula but the smaller Telvanni Isles. I don't think we'll get a really big zone on Nirn if there'll also be Apocrypha maps.

jaws343 · January 20

Syldras wrote: »

I don't think the "two worlds" thing means something too fancy, to be honest. Probably the most obvious thing if Hermaeus Mora calls us: Apocrypha and Nirn.

The remaining question is where on Nirn it will take place (as for sure we won't spend the whole chapter in Apocrypha). I still assume it will be some Telvanni place. Maybe not the Telvanni Peninsula but the smaller Telvanni Isles. I don't think we'll get a really big zone on Nirn if there'll also be Apocrypha maps.

Could still be Solstheim, and something similar to the way they did the Skyrim/Blackreach split with the island and Apocrypha.

And interesting thought I had regarding the new feature, what if it revolved around the Black Books. They could use those here, within the potential theme, to provide skills (if we wanted skill crafting lite) or even mundus like boons that you can choose from.