You think the player response to U35 on PC was bad, just wait until it hits consoles...

SaffronCitrusflower

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think we can accurately gauge the health of the game by how many new forum posts there are. The majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. Things in game were as busy as usual today.

Except things in game are not as busy as usual. Guild store sales are plummeting, there is often not a queue to get into Grey Host even during prime time and it's getting extremely difficult to get raid groups together to run trifectas or even a hard mode dungeon.

SilverBride

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think we can accurately gauge the health of the game by how many new forum posts there are. The majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. Things in game were as busy as usual today.

Except things in game are not as busy as usual. Guild store sales are plummeting, there is often not a queue to get into Grey Host even during prime time and it's getting extremely difficult to get raid groups together to run trifectas or even a hard mode dungeon.

This is not happening on PCNA. I am selling at the same prices I have been for weeks now and things are moving as fast as they always have.

SaffronCitrusflower

SilverBride wrote: »

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think we can accurately gauge the health of the game by how many new forum posts there are. The majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. Things in game were as busy as usual today.

Except things in game are not as busy as usual. Guild store sales are plummeting, there is often not a queue to get into Grey Host even during prime time and it's getting extremely difficult to get raid groups together to run trifectas or even a hard mode dungeon.

This is not happening on PCNA. I am selling at the same prices I have been for weeks now and things are moving as fast as they always have.

Congratulations. You appear to be the one person who's not effected in any way by U35 or any other negative change ZOS has made to the game.

You've stated repeatedly that you do not engage in end game content or PvP, so there is no way for you to know what's happening with the end game activities.

You also stated that you are a member of a major trade guild in Grahtwood. I checked. There aren't any major trade guilds with vendors in Grahtwood at present, at least not on PC NA.

BlueRaven

SilverBride wrote: »

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think we can accurately gauge the health of the game by how many new forum posts there are. The majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. Things in game were as busy as usual today.

Except things in game are not as busy as usual. Guild store sales are plummeting, there is often not a queue to get into Grey Host even during prime time and it's getting extremely difficult to get raid groups together to run trifectas or even a hard mode dungeon.

This is not happening on PCNA. I am selling at the same prices I have been for weeks now and things are moving as fast as they always have.

Agreed. I have not seen a noticeable change in mat costs on PCNA.

SilverBride

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think we can accurately gauge the health of the game by how many new forum posts there are. The majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. Things in game were as busy as usual today.

Except things in game are not as busy as usual. Guild store sales are plummeting, there is often not a queue to get into Grey Host even during prime time and it's getting extremely difficult to get raid groups together to run trifectas or even a hard mode dungeon.

This is not happening on PCNA. I am selling at the same prices I have been for weeks now and things are moving as fast as they always have.

Congratulations. You appear to be the one person who's not effected in any way by U35 or any other negative change ZOS has made to the game.

You've stated repeatedly that you do not engage in end game content or PvP, so there is no way for you to know what's happening with the end game activities.

You also stated that you are a member of a major trade guild in Grahtwood. I checked. There aren't any major trade guilds with vendors in Grahtwood at present, at least not on PC NA.

Our trader has been in Elden Root consistently for a long time now. I don't know what you consider major but we make enough to afford a trader in a prime location week after week.

Dragonlord573

BlueRaven wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think we can accurately gauge the health of the game by how many new forum posts there are. The majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. Things in game were as busy as usual today.

Except things in game are not as busy as usual. Guild store sales are plummeting, there is often not a queue to get into Grey Host even during prime time and it's getting extremely difficult to get raid groups together to run trifectas or even a hard mode dungeon.

This is not happening on PCNA. I am selling at the same prices I have been for weeks now and things are moving as fast as they always have.

Agreed. I have not seen a noticeable change in mat costs on PCNA.

When I was still playing my sales dropped drastically on Xbox NA. That was about the time the first week of the PTS dropped and the Zenithar event was still happening. I was selling materials, furnishing plans, and motifs left and right. Week two of the PTS happens and the Zenthar event ended and bam. Sales stopped entirely.

Granted the trader I was at wasn't at a extremely popular location. They were at High Isle. A new zone location is a pretty profitable location, but there were no sizable groups in the town. I could literally count how many people were there on maybe two hands.

I've never seen a zone die that fast. Vivec City, Alinor, Rimmen, Solitude, Markarth, and Leyawiin are very busy cities. But GB is dead. I've been gone for about four weeks now, so maybe the zone has gotten busy again in that time but it was disheartening to find it so barren.

I may return when the U36 PTS comes out, and I'm hoping that what I was seeing was just people being busy with the summer, but as of right now I have no motivation to return from what I saw along with all my friends leaving the game due to the update.

As a side note, how is the population of High Isle on PC?

p00tx

VampiricByNature wrote: »

We have lost people on console in the weeks just leading up to this patch. Since some of my progressions on PS NA clearly weren't close to completion, we had 3 people drop off. [This was not a dead end team. We just got dawnbringer a month ago] I think we will have to change what we are doing from attempting to cleanup EOF to get to GS. I don't think that will still be a realistic goal for us.

Our other team decided to do ttt now for the few people missing the achievement because we are afraid to do anything harder like XS or HH at this time. We figured TTT was older and easier.

I hope we can keep moving forward but the community is small.

HoF is currently broken and TTT isn't a possibility for any team. I'm on PC and we tried to do an easy Terminal Terminator run for a buddy a few days ago, and had to resort to some ridiculous stuff just to clear the first boss. Purge is currently targeting enemies and pets, and players are prioritized last. I assume they broke it while trying to fix the despawning bosses bug, which is also still broken.

Androrix

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think we can accurately gauge the health of the game by how many new forum posts there are. The majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. Things in game were as busy as usual today.

I really haven't noticed much change on PCNA either. If anything, the zones seem to have been slightly more active for me recently--something I usually judge by WB aid requests.

Also getting a little tired of the drama threads around U35 at this point. That and some people who seem to be actively rooting for the game to fail--I guess to stick it to the developers, or something. I don't get that, and it won't happen.

FeedbackOnly

p00tx wrote: »

VampiricByNature wrote: »

We have lost people on console in the weeks just leading up to this patch. Since some of my progressions on PS NA clearly weren't close to completion, we had 3 people drop off. [This was not a dead end team. We just got dawnbringer a month ago] I think we will have to change what we are doing from attempting to cleanup EOF to get to GS. I don't think that will still be a realistic goal for us.

Our other team decided to do ttt now for the few people missing the achievement because we are afraid to do anything harder like XS or HH at this time. We figured TTT was older and easier.

I hope we can keep moving forward but the community is small.

HoF is currently broken and TTT isn't a possibility for any team. I'm on PC and we tried to do an easy Terminal Terminator run for a buddy a few days ago, and had to resort to some ridiculous stuff just to clear the first boss. Purge is currently targeting enemies and pets, and players are prioritized last. I assume they broke it while trying to fix the despawning bosses bug, which is also still broken.

Did you make a bug report or tell community manger like @ZOS_Kevin

p00tx

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

p00tx wrote: »

VampiricByNature wrote: »

We have lost people on console in the weeks just leading up to this patch. Since some of my progressions on PS NA clearly weren't close to completion, we had 3 people drop off. [This was not a dead end team. We just got dawnbringer a month ago] I think we will have to change what we are doing from attempting to cleanup EOF to get to GS. I don't think that will still be a realistic goal for us.

Our other team decided to do ttt now for the few people missing the achievement because we are afraid to do anything harder like XS or HH at this time. We figured TTT was older and easier.

I hope we can keep moving forward but the community is small.

HoF is currently broken and TTT isn't a possibility for any team. I'm on PC and we tried to do an easy Terminal Terminator run for a buddy a few days ago, and had to resort to some ridiculous stuff just to clear the first boss. Purge is currently targeting enemies and pets, and players are prioritized last. I assume they broke it while trying to fix the despawning bosses bug, which is also still broken.

Did you make a bug report or tell community manger like @ZOS_Kevin

No. It's a widely known issue and people are talking about it everywhere. I used to submit feedback and detailed bug reports, but I always got a canned response along the lines of "Here's what you can do to fix your problem", and the bugs still persist today. Not wasting my time with them.

ZOS_Kevin

@p00tx Do you have the ticket number for the detailed bug reports? I can send those over to our customer service team just to make sure they have it and are working with the appropriate team to get the issue resolved.

Thanks for the tag, @FeedbackOnly

p00tx

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

@p00tx Do you have the ticket number for the detailed bug reports? I can send those over to our customer service team just to make sure they have it and are working with the appropriate team to get the issue resolved.

Thanks for the tag, @FeedbackOnly

Hi Kevin. I sent you a direct message on the forums.

ACamaroGuy

Xbox NA here, Craglorn is mostly dead. You could be there for 30 minutes before somebody remotely even attempts to put a trial group together now. Just about everybody is talking about U35 killing the game. I'm in five guilds that have 390 or more players in them. I would say a good 60% of them have not been on in about a month now.

Four_Fingers

My casual console reaction.
New Warden shalks, fire it first attack goes off, npc dies, get on mount ride off second attack goes off.
I keep forgetting about the second attack it takes so long.
6 seconds is a long time.

Ghaleb

BlueRaven wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

This is not happening on PCNA. I am selling at the same prices I have been for weeks now and things are moving as fast as they always have.

Agreed. I have not seen a noticeable change in mat costs on PCNA.

Checked the trader for Chromium Plating and you can see a decline. In Master Merchant it is around ~10k Gold. I meanwhile see Plating starting around 220k Gold more regularly. Some weeks ago it was more around 240k.

Kuta on the other hand doesn't show any changes. Maybe a very small increase (didn't make a picture).
Spell Power Potions don't have enough data points to provide a trend.
Ancestor Sillk has dropped from ~10-11k Gold prior to U35 to ~8.5-10k Gold.

So I think the truth lies as often in the middle. For some, depending on what you sell, sales dropped substantially. For some (e.g. if you sell Kuta), you might not even register a difference.

Therefore, the back and forth regarding a zone feeling (again, feeling) busy or sales not dropping are somewhat irrelevant.
If one part of a game tanks due to changes, it risks to pull the rest of the game down with it. See it like a stomach bug. If one person in your household catched that, it does pose a risk for you to catch it as well. And in not too long of a future, you too find yourself struggling with that "***".

So, one part of the game tanking might have an impact on you as well. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. But the risk of it materializing will remain present. That leaves me a bit puzzled about all the folks posing as stout defenders of ZoS / U35. Yes, you might not be affected by it. But a good part of the community is. We don't know how big that community is, as the people negative about U35 are again more affected by the changes and the ones less affected by the changes say, it basically is only a very small but vocal minority. And this, again missing the point. I think we should generally not gloat about the negative experience of others as
a) that doesn't shine the best line upon the person "gloating"
b) smaller community means less opportunities for playing the game or meeting new people with whom to interact.
c) smaller community means less people paying for Eso+, which might at one point lead to reduced content to be made available or, as we see with PCEU, hardware simply not being bought in time

In the end it pretty much relates to the following picture:


Some see a young woman. Some see an old woman.
There will be no agreement and understanding if no change in perspective happens.

Last but not least, for those being sick of threads about U35, I think you can calm down. There is a noticable downturn in threads or replies to this topic and it will die down sooner or later. And I am also tired of posting about it.

We meanwhile tried vRG with my main guild multiple times but we meanwhile fail to clear it. Worked prior to U35 rather well with a 100% clear rate for the last 4 tries as we were progging times and times again. I have logs, they have been shared in this forum. I have posted about my expectation prior to U35 being released and elaborated, as many others, that these changes will not raise the floor but punish those who are low to mid range, working towards trials.
I did try to compensate but we as a team simply can't compensate for the loss and that sucks hard, as that was without necessity. And whatever defenders of ZoS / U35 want to bring to the table, these are facts, proven by data and clear rates you can't argue about.

But closing my rant now. It's late and I am meanwhile literally tired of this ***, as Zos anyway doesn't really care or listen. The game will prevail. Or it will not. Only time will tell, as nobody of us can predict the future.

renne

People saying they haven't seen a decrease in price on mats they're selling are completely missing the point. You should see a sharp uptick in prices for a few weeks with a new patch where people (especially end game raiders and PvPers) have to make large changes to their builds. If you're not seeing that then yeah, there is a problem.

Hapexamendios

Only had a little time to try out the new animations for flurry and jabs. My initial impression is that they're very awkward.

The flurry animation looks like the way a little kid would fight. Take away the blades and a wood elf looks like a a toddler.

The first two jabs seem OK, but what is with the third? That's not a jab imo. Looks more like a hook. Very strange.

Maybe I can get used to them. Maybe not. Only time will tell.

Ingenon

My solo console reaction.

Earlier I had a no-death Craglorn daily run, Skyreach Hold, Blood of Nirn quest, with my magplar. Yes, the puncturing sweeps looks "different", but overall, NPC were falling to my attacks, and I wasn't getting overly pressed by the mobs.

But on guild discord, I am reading some folks having different reactions to the patch. So I think I need to try some group dungeons and a trial before I decide just how much this update is affecting me.

MidniteOwl1913

Ingenon wrote: »

My solo console reaction.

Earlier I had a no-death Craglorn daily run, Skyreach Hold, Blood of Nirn quest, with my magplar. Yes, the puncturing sweeps looks "different", but overall, NPC were falling to my attacks, and I wasn't getting overly pressed by the mobs.

But on guild discord, I am reading some folks having different reactions to the patch. So I think I need to try some group dungeons and a trial before I decide just how much this update is affecting me.

Yeah, solo world bosses seem okay, but I haven't tried pugs with my healer yet. Honestly that's what I'm most worried about. My healer is my main for vet content.

BahometZ

I'm still digesting but the longer dots is awful. The timers are all over the place, 10, 12, 15, 20, 24. It is not at all easier to keep track of, and I'm looking at the timers because i lose track of how many times I hit the spammable. Not to mention it's the most drastic change to rotations in years, when we've become so used to the shorter rotos, this is a big upheaval.

I don't understand what the goal was here. I already miss u35.

katanagirl1

Blinx wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

The banner above says the update hits us tomorrow morning. I feel a sense of dread.

yep me too, I motivated myself to do normal Maelstrom Arena adnauseam for the Lightning Staff which I always wanted ( I can't do Vet due to CTS-so this is as good as Imma get), just in case I can't do this after the update/or it becomes more tedious/annoying.

I used the time to get normal Maelstrom bow for my stamblade. Now I’m wondering if it was worth the time. Dots are so weak now.

As some others posted, I am not trying to be overly dramatic. As stated before, I not a high dps player, so I am likely more affected than those of you who are, or those of you who only do RP or housing. If you are not affected by this update, good for you. However, I think implying that because you haven’t noticed a change does not mean that no other players will. There are many ways to play this game so your experience will likely not be the same as someone else’s.

MidniteOwl1913

Jabs are pretty awful and I'm not even talking about the animation. I don't like that either, but the loss of an effective tool is far worse.

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adamsmith42

SilverBride wrote: »

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think we can accurately gauge the health of the game by how many new forum posts there are. The majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. Things in game were as busy as usual today.

Except things in game are not as busy as usual. Guild store sales are plummeting, there is often not a queue to get into Grey Host even during prime time and it's getting extremely difficult to get raid groups together to run trifectas or even a hard mode dungeon.

This is not happening on PCNA. I am selling at the same prices I have been for weeks now and things are moving as fast as they always have.

You may be selling things at the same prices and not noticing a difference in sales, but it is an undeniable fact that sales are dropping (or at best flat lining) when they should be *increasing* due to people updating builds in reaction to this update. I am in 3 large trade guilds (Alinor, Daggerfall, Solitude) and all of them use Master Merchant to do detailed analysis of sales; in fact the GM of one of the guilds runs 2 accounts and has traders in 9 major cities... overall sales are down almost everywhere, when they should be going up; this is unquestionable.

I have seen you *many* times in the forums saying that nothing has changed due to this update - even with the large number of people stating that they are having a very different experience, and you admit you don't do the content that is most affected by these changes... My trial guild, for example used to be able to put a run together in a matter of minutes on any weekday evening, and only rarely would we have to go to Crag/other guilds to fill a slot or two; since the update has dropped, that time to fill is more like 15-30 minutes, and often as much as half of the group will be pugs, and this is just for normal trials or maybe a vCrag.

I guess I just don't understand why you are trying so hard to convince people that they are not experiencing negative impact from this update (when they clearly are) just because *you* aren't.

[Edit] Messed up quote removing earlier quotes, just put it back to full quote

Auldwulfe

Thing is, perceived zone population is not a real indicator -- as they only create a new instance of that zone, when the current is full ..... so, it can look the same, and have half the population.

What I am looking at is guild populations, and log ins.
I am in 4 guilds, but one doesn't count --- it's my personal guild, and made of people I know in real life .... we made it to have our own chat channel that can be a little bigger than a group one

Of the other 3 -- one has seen about a 23% decline in members, and our applications for new members has seriously declined. The second went from 331 members, 7 weeks ago, to 26 members as of yesterday.
The third, where I am an officer, has, for the first time, purged people that haven't logged in within 30 or more days.
And lastly, guilds I applied to, 6 months ago, that had told me they were full, are now contacting me, as they are recruiting.
Coupled with the increase in guild recruiting in chat.... and yes, it has gone up..... people are leaving.

Will the game just collapse... no.... I play Age of Conan, a game that has, repeatedly, "died off, because the devs don't maintain it".... but it lingers on.
I like the lore, and some of the gameplay, so I log in once a week for a couple of hours to run around a bit..... but it is getting pretty scarce as to player population. Most of the remaining players are those that don't have systems that can handle heavier games like ESO..... or have invested so much, they refuse to leave.

I am here because I love Tamriel --- I have been an Elder Scrolls fan since Elder Scrolls 1, Arena was a new release game.
I run the Gog Cut Daggerfall with all the mods .... which is free, by the way.

But, from a business point of view, ZOS has lost the NPS score they need... in business, we have NPS, or Net Promoter Score --- it's a value of how pleased the customers are, and how much they are doing free advertising for you. Right now, FFXIV has a very positive NPS ... people are talking it up all over in various forums. You even see it here in a forum that is specific to another game... in generic forums, you hear a LOT more about it, as there is less chance of snipping.

A bad NPS isn't instant death... but it is not a healthy sign. Verizon has a bad NPS, but is big enough, and controls enough, that it stays in place....although more and more of their profits are due to allowing smaller networks to ride on their infrastructure.

Right now, ZOS has ESO .... and the Elder Scrolls Series has enough core fanbase that they will tolerate a LOT to stay with this franchise.... but they are going to have competition..... and unless they rise to deal with that.... they will stagnate, and then start to slowly drop off, until they resemble Age of Conan.... played by old grognards that still like the lore, or are attached to characters they put a lot of work into, and muddle through the junk for that.

With Julian LeFay, the creator of Arena and Daggerfall, creating a new game called Wayward Realms..... I can see ZOS taking a solid hit, there... unless they improve their NPS prior, they are going to get hurt with that one. The early releases are already incredible ---

ZOS is in a delicate position... they have to do work on the game, and it is going to need a complete overhaul. I can see where this patch could have been a great first step in that direction, but they are not great with communication, and the playerbase isn't forgiving, due to past errors. Second, we have several small groups of very vocal, and very opinionated players (I hate using the term toxic... it's not only overused, but the meaning has been lost). Some of these players are very competitive, and they work to "win" the game .... nothing wrong with that at all .... but not everyone is in that boat. They are the meta chasers.... the guys that sit and calculate how to get just one more point of damage out of their master tuned character... and we have the people that are casuals that log in to look at the artwork on rock faces, and wander around just to explore and see the world. (I am more in that camp... but I do understand the others, too).

Then we have the majority of players in the middle .... they enjoy the world, enjoy some of the group content, but aren't trying to find every possible meta point that they can combine.

And each group has a very vocal element within it, that gets on the forums and argues for their view .... again, nothing wrong with that, but the noise does drown out the average person and their opinion, and most are not as extreme, but they are getting tired of the constant change, and the having to redesign characters every few months. And soon, as they are not heard, and not happy, they will first be apathetic ... we are already seeing a LOT of that... and then, once something comes that excites them, they will be gone .... and the game will remain for those that insist that nothing is wrong, etc. It will linger.... slowly fading, as the funds dry up, and there is no money to upgrade servers, or pay developers to create new content..... and eventually, it will shut down. Unless, of course, those same players that argue that "nothing is wrong" can afford to support the whole game, themselves ......

Auldwulfe

daim

I'm mostly miffed about animation changes on rapid strikes. havent dared to touch my templar yet though so I guess there's that too. I dont mind that much about the nerfs and such but those animations were classics and made them fun to use. I have no idea what was the point to replace strikes with the most generic LA attack animation there is in this game...

daemondamian

Blinx wrote: »

The word has spread, I already notice less people than before on Xbox/NA, & /EU, I know I'm not going to be too happy as my main is a Magicka Sorcerer, followed by 2 Magicka alts-a DK, and a Warden....

My hope that one day I could solo Shada's Tear went up in smoke sigh, I can almost but not quite, and next patch will be impossible.

Console is my preferred way to play ESO, I do play on pc, just not as much

On my magsorc I recently soloed Shada's Tears finally (after giving up on previous attempts) using Oakensoul (pre-nerf), Noble Duelist's Silks & either Order's Wrath or Aetherial Ascension.

I did it along with vMA which I'd only managed to complete once before, vVH which I'd only completed on normal before & soloing nBRP all for achievements, experience and to collect all the sets believing it would be highly unlikely I'd be able to do any of it again after the Oakensoul nerf change.

While I haven't tried those arenas again in addition to them I also successfully soloed Castle Thorn (just normal) at the same time which I'd tried to do before and hadn't been able to get past the Blood Twilight boss.

In the last few days I wanted to try out a new build on one of my necros using Crimson Twilight but I hadn't collected all of that set or the others in there and I had limited transmute gems too.

So I went in with my current solo magsorc build and to my surprise the Blood Twilight boss was as easy as it had been with pre-nerfed Oakensoul, as were the other bosses and I finished farming the set.

This is the setup:
Sets> Sergeant's Mail, Aetherial Ascension, Sea Serpent's Coil, Maelstrom Perfected Lightning Staff, 1 piece Magma Incarnate.

Skills> Hurricane, Structured Entropy, Haunting Curse, Bound Aegis, Inner Light, Flawless Dawnbreaker.

Backbar - Race Against Time, Unstable Wall of Storms, Elemental Susceptibility, Hardened Ward, Critical Surge, Summon Charged Attronach or Ice Comet.

CP> Wrathful Strikes, Thaumaturge, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Sustained By Suffering, Bastion, Pain's Refuge, Survival Instincts.

Thief Mundus and Bewitched Sugar Skulls

In general most of my group dps builds dps is down (I don't do group dps often anymore) but soloing harder/group content on my characters with staffs has become a lot easier with the empower changes helping a lot in addition to the Aetherial set providing resistance & damage mitigation.

I'd recommend trying it - or some variation - out for ST.

Blinx

daemondamian wrote: »

On my magsorc I recently soloed Shada's Tears finally (after giving up on previous attempts) using Oakensoul (pre-nerf), Noble Duelist's Silks & either Order's Wrath or Aetherial Ascension.

I did it along with vMA which I'd only managed to complete once before, vVH which I'd only completed on normal before & soloing nBRP all for achievements, experience and to collect all the sets believing it would be highly unlikely I'd be able to do any of it again after the Oakensoul nerf change.

While I haven't tried those arenas again in addition to them I also successfully soloed Castle Thorn (just normal) at the same time which I'd tried to do before and hadn't been able to get past the Blood Twilight boss.

In the last few days I wanted to try out a new build on one of my necros using Crimson Twilight but I hadn't collected all of that set or the others in there and I had limited transmute gems too.

So I went in with my current solo magsorc build and to my surprise the Blood Twilight boss was as easy as it had been with pre-nerfed Oakensoul, as were the other bosses and I finished farming the set.

This is the setup:
Sets> Sergeant's Mail, Aetherial Ascension, Sea Serpent's Coil, Maelstrom Perfected Lightning Staff, 1 piece Magma Incarnate.

Skills> Hurricane, Structured Entropy, Haunting Curse, Bound Aegis, Inner Light, Flawless Dawnbreaker.

Backbar - Race Against Time, Unstable Wall of Storms, Elemental Susceptibility, Hardened Ward, Critical Surge, Summon Charged Attronach or Ice Comet.

CP> Wrathful Strikes, Thaumaturge, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Sustained By Suffering, Bastion, Pain's Refuge, Survival Instincts.

Thief Mundus and Bewitched Sugar Skulls

In general most of my group dps builds dps is down (I don't do group dps often anymore) but soloing harder/group content on my characters with staffs has become a lot easier with the empower changes helping a lot in addition to the Aetherial set providing resistance & damage mitigation.


I'd recommend trying it - or some variation - out for ST.

I run around in mothers sorrow/necropotence, I literally just got the normal maelstrom staves like 3 days ago, no way I can see this ever happening for me now

Getting to Shada is not the issue, it's once I'm there, and the adds keep pushing my behind into the electrified water, and presto dead mage...

My reaction time isn't the best, as I have CTS, and with this update I have to spam more, to do the same damage I was doing before, so not even thinking about it, but thank you for your input.

spartaxoxo

I really really hate the new Jabs animation. I knew I didn't like it before because of seeing it previously but it somehow feels even worse experiencing it for myself. I'm so annoyed

Eternalscourge1

Dragonlord573 wrote: »

BlueRaven wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

SizanLopkniht wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I don't think we can accurately gauge the health of the game by how many new forum posts there are. The majority of players never even visit the forums let alone post on them. Things in game were as busy as usual today.

Except things in game are not as busy as usual. Guild store sales are plummeting, there is often not a queue to get into Grey Host even during prime time and it's getting extremely difficult to get raid groups together to run trifectas or even a hard mode dungeon.

This is not happening on PCNA. I am selling at the same prices I have been for weeks now and things are moving as fast as they always have.

Agreed. I have not seen a noticeable change in mat costs on PCNA.

When I was still playing my sales dropped drastically on Xbox NA. That was about the time the first week of the PTS dropped and the Zenithar event was still happening. I was selling materials, furnishing plans, and motifs left and right. Week two of the PTS happens and the Zenthar event ended and bam. Sales stopped entirely.

Granted the trader I was at wasn't at a extremely popular location. They were at High Isle. A new zone location is a pretty profitable location, but there were no sizable groups in the town. I could literally count how many people were there on maybe two hands.

I've never seen a zone die that fast. Vivec City, Alinor, Rimmen, Solitude, Markarth, and Leyawiin are very busy cities. But GB is dead. I've been gone for about four weeks now, so maybe the zone has gotten busy again in that time but it was disheartening to find it so barren.

I may return when the U36 PTS comes out, and I'm hoping that what I was seeing was just people being busy with the summer, but as of right now I have no motivation to return from what I saw along with all my friends leaving the game due to the update.

As a side note, how is the population of High Isle on PC?

Well Xbox has been Poppin so you're missing out...it's always a lull before a new update...I've been playing since 2014 on Xbox I know what I'm talking about