Flurry: Fixed an issue where this ability and its morphs were being treated as Damage over Time in some cases.
Flurry: Fixed an issue where this ability and its morphs were being treated as Damage over Time in some cases.
I thought that wasn't issue, rather feature. Flurry isn't very popular i think, but i used it exactly in dot builds with Deadly strike set for example.
VMA Flurry set (Cruel Flurry) also supposed to be good addition to dot focused builds, but... With recent dot nerf, why this execution continues?
Yes, but it won't benefit from thaumaturgy anymore, while rest of your dots will.Flurry is still a channeled ability, so it should still work with Deadly Strike
Flurry has been direct damage since 2019. It is very much is a problem when a skill component is acting as both direct and DoT and double-dipping on CP and other bonuses because of it. Yes, both Master-at-Arms and Thaumaturge affect it on live. No other skill component in the game does that because it’s a bug that the devs don’t want but somehow keep allowing back into the game.
Yes, both Master-at-Arms and Thaumaturge affect it on live. No other skill component in the game does that because it’s a bug that the devs don’t want but somehow keep allowing back into the game.
MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »Orange numbers are DoT's this was standardized ages ago.
Yes, both Master-at-Arms and Thaumaturge affect it on live. No other skill component in the game does that because it’s a bug that the devs don’t want but somehow keep allowing back into the game.
Every skill double dips CP - single target + direct damage, aoe + direct damage, and so on. Some triple, quadruple dip.
Billium813 wrote: »Flurry has been direct damage since 2019. It is very much is a problem when a skill component is acting as both direct and DoT and double-dipping on CP and other bonuses because of it. Yes, both Master-at-Arms and Thaumaturge affect it on live. No other skill component in the game does that because it’s a bug that the devs don’t want but somehow keep allowing back into the game.
Jabs is both an AOE and direct damage. Doesn't Jabs double dip in Master-at-Arms and Biting Aura?
Billium813 wrote: »Jabs is both an AOE and direct damage. Doesn't Jabs double dip in Master-at-Arms and Biting Aura?
AoE and direct are not mutually exclusive damage types in this game.
Direct and DoT are mutually exclusive and yet Flurry is both. That is why it's bugged, and that is why it's being fixed.
Jabs is AoE and Direct. It benefits from Biting Aura and Master-at-Arms.
Flurry is Single-Target and Direct. Yet it benefits from Deadly Aim, Master-at-Arms, and Thaumaturge.
Billium813 wrote: »I'm not disagreeing with you that Flurry shouldn't be a DoT and therefore shouldn't benefit from Thaumaturge.
What I'm disappointed in ZOS about here (aside from leaving us to discover what counts as what in terms of AoE/ST and Direct/DoT categories - sometimes it gets tricky with single-target sticky DoTs applied by AoE, like Merciless Charge)
What I'm disappointed in ZOS about here (aside from leaving us to discover what counts as what in terms of AoE/ST and Direct/DoT categories - sometimes it gets tricky with single-target sticky DoTs applied by AoE, like Merciless Charge) is that Flurry hasn't but also has been a DoT since 2019. That sends extremely mixed messages to the players. They didn't want it to be a DoT anymore, so they made it direct, but they left it benefiting from certain DoT bonuses, like Thaumaturge. They claimed to have fixed that last year but somehow it got reverted in the interim. Their fixes need to stick. That would have avoided a lot of confusion and disappointment with this (second) fix.
They also left most of the DoT-to-Direct changes out of the patch notes, including the change to Deadly Strike to account for Jabs and Flurry becoming direct. Screenshots of Deadly from early 2019 show Deadly only buffing DoTs, whereas screenshots from that fall show "channeled" as well. It is implied by a comment in 5.2.5 Dragonhold that Flurry had become direct as of mid-2019, but they weren't clear about it like they were with Jabs.Billium813 wrote: »I'm not disagreeing with you that Flurry shouldn't be a DoT and therefore shouldn't benefit from Thaumaturge.