Which companion has the best personality?

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Bastian

Syldras wrote: »

Bekkael wrote: »

I seem to always like male characters that everyone else scorns and labels "whiny". In Dragon Age: Origins, it was Alistair, Dragon Age 2 was Anders, then Kaidan from Mass Effect... Although, now I think of it, it did seem to be mostly male players that claimed those characters were whiny. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

Treselegant wrote: »

Some people seem to tolerate morally inclined dialogue if it come from female character and react more harshy if it comes from a male character. Obviously not the whole story but there does seem a bias. It's a pattern that occurs across so many games.

Short speculation: Different gender roles.

I like the good guy bastain as female. Just stating for the record

Syldras

Mirri

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

I like the good guy bastain as female. Just stating for the record

I'm male and I'm more or less indifferent towards Bastian. I definitively do not dislike him for being lawful good or for his, admittedly, sometimes quite cheesy lines (all those quotes about "love" and comparing it to different things), though.

What I was about was that being nice and friendly is often appreciated in women, while (some) people tend to label nice and friendly men unmanly, soft and boring. Also I'm sure that some people who find his "romantic" lines silly wouldn't feel that way if he was a female character. Same goes for emotions: The same behaviour that people find normal in a woman might be considered "whiny" in a guy. That's what I meant with gender norms. And generally, but maybe that's just my personal impression, I have the feeling that men seem to see these norms more rigidly than women.

That said, everyone has their own personal taste, there's no right or wrong. But cultural tendencies exist.

SilverBride

Ember

I don't like Bastian all that much, but I find Mirri way more irritating than him. I do not cut her more slack because she is a female.

Scaletho

Isobel

I like Ember, but after spent a lot of time with Isobel I came to enjoy her story line, her struggles with her sexuality and her code of honor/chivalry.

I think Isobel deserves a better percentage here, but this threat author is perhaps forgetting that a very large number of player DON'T HAVE High Isle and therefore have no experience with Isobel or Ember.

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BretonMage

Bastian

Syldras wrote: »

What I was about was that being nice and friendly is often appreciated in women, while (some) people tend to label nice and friendly men unmanly, soft and boring. Also I'm sure that some people who find his "romantic" lines silly wouldn't feel that way if he was a female character. Same goes for emotions: The same behaviour that people find normal in a woman might be considered "whiny" in a guy. That's what I meant with gender norms. And generally, but maybe that's just my personal impression, I have the feeling that men seem to see these norms more rigidly than women.

Well put. That has been my observation as well. And I've found the same attitudes, not only from men, but also from women from the conservative spectrum.

It's disappointing to me, because I feel we need more Bastians in this world (and Tamriel). Maybe without the cheesy lines though.

Carcamongus

Mirri

BretonMage wrote: »

It's disappointing to me, because I feel we need more Bastians in this world (and Tamriel). Maybe without the cheesy lines though.

Careful, calling Bastian anything related to cheese will cause you to lose rapport.

spartaxoxo

IDK/IDC

Carcamongus wrote: »

BretonMage wrote: »

It's disappointing to me, because I feel we need more Bastians in this world (and Tamriel). Maybe without the cheesy lines though.

Careful, calling Bastian anything related to cheese will cause you to lose rapport.

ElvenOverlord

Mirri

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

ElvenOverlord wrote: »

[snip]

🙄 People like different things and gets better along with various types of people. It has nothing to do with being "hypersensitive". Which is a rude thing to say. Something some people may find Mirri.
Mirri also gets plenty of love and has from the beginning.

[edited to remove quote]

Meh

tim77

Ember

SilverBride wrote: »

What about Bastian in this outfit?

LOL

🧀

Sidereum

Ember

I love Ember, she's my favorite!
I used to stick to Bastian but since the new companions came out, I always play with Ember. She's so sweet, funny and she's not snobbish moralist like Bastian and Isobel.

spartaxoxo

IDK/IDC

It's interesting to me how much people call it being "moralistic" to be against theft and murder. It's like, people want to play their characters as morally gray or morally bad. But, then also don't want the games to treat those actions as bad. Even in a way as small as the way companions treat it. Characters that don't like it are high and mighty, rather than our characters maybe not being all that good. Kind of interesting.

Syldras

Mirri

spartaxoxo wrote: »

It's interesting to me how much people call it being "moralistic" to be against theft and murder. It's like, people want to play their characters as morally gray or morally bad. But, then also don't want the games to treat those actions as bad.

I think many people don't immerse that much, or even don't roleplay at all, so they don't consider that, of course, murder would be viewed as something horrible by npcs within the world of ESO, not differently than it is in real life. They probably just see companions contradicting their criminal actions as nothing more than someone trying to spoil their fun.

spartaxoxo

IDK/IDC

Syldras wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

It's interesting to me how much people call it being "moralistic" to be against theft and murder. It's like, people want to play their characters as morally gray or morally bad. But, then also don't want the games to treat those actions as bad.

I think many people don't immerse that much, or even don't roleplay at all, so they don't consider that, of course, murder would be viewed as something horrible by npcs within the world of ESO, not differently than it is in real life. They probably just see companions contradicting their criminal actions as nothing more than someone trying to spoil their fun.

Sure. But you'd think it would be met with humor rather than judging the character so harshly. But instead of "haha this game pays so much attention to detail" it is "the character is so high and mighty to judge my character just because I stole something." In some ways, I think it is because they've immersed themselves into the character a little. And they view their character as the good guy. So when a character contradicts that, it's viewed as flaw of the character.

SerasWhip

Mirri

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

Most for Mirri just because she's sexy? Is that all it takes to be a "successful" companion?

I haven't seen anyone mention Mirri being ''sexy'' other than you.

Jpk0012

Ember

Ember is the only one that isn't a goody-two-shoes. You're out here murdering people and Merri is upset you killed a bug? [snip] with that misplaced logic.

[edited for profanity bypass]

Syldras

Mirri

spartaxoxo wrote: »

But you'd think it would be met with humor rather than judging the character so harshly. But instead of "haha this game pays so much attention to detail" it is "the character is so high and mighty to judge my character just because I stole something." In some ways, I think it is because they've immersed themselves into the character a little. And they view their character as the good guy.

I don't believe many people think that much about context. They probably just hate being "critized", no matter by whom and what for. If it's immersion or a general tendency to hate every kind of objection, who knows.

Jpk0012 wrote: »

You're out here murdering people and Merri is upset you killed a bug? [snip] with that misplaced logic.

She's against murder too. It's only stealing she's okay with.

[edited to remove quote]

BretonMage

Bastian

I know the OP asked about personality specifically as opposed to rapport mechanics, but I wonder how many people voted Ember because she's the only one who won't lose rapport if you steal or kill?

SilverBride

Ember

Why someone favors one companion over another is probably a factor of many different things. I prefer Ember because she is enthusiastic and pleasant. The fact that she doesn't care if I steal was insignificant in my choice.

BretonMage

Bastian

SilverBride wrote: »

Why someone favors one companion over another is probably a factor of many different things. I prefer Ember because she is enthusiastic and pleasant. The fact that she doesn't care if I steal was insignificant in my choice.

Oh I'm sure many genuinely do like her personality, but if it was based purely on personality preferences, I'd expect a slightly more even distribution amongst the other companions as well. (Isn't Isobel also pleasant, for example?)

SilverBride

Ember

BretonMage wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Why someone favors one companion over another is probably a factor of many different things. I prefer Ember because she is enthusiastic and pleasant. The fact that she doesn't care if I steal was insignificant in my choice.

Oh I'm sure many genuinely do like her personality, but if it was based purely on personality preferences, I'd expect a slightly more even distribution amongst the other companions as well. (Isn't Isobel also pleasant, for example?)

Not necessarily. I still haven't done anything with Isobel other than the initial quests so I can't speak to her personality. But Bastian has a reputation of being a goody two shoes and Mirri of being passive aggressive. Not all players see them this way, but enough do that it is probably why they have less votes than Ember who is seen by many as positive and cheerful.

Kurague

Ember

ONLY from a personality Standpoint, Ember takes the cake, then Mirri then Isobel.

Honestly, I only use Ember and Mirri cause I don't like companions that harm an aspect of the gameplay.

I dislike that Mirri won't let me pickup bugs or assassinate people with the Blade of Woe, but I don't use companions while doing Stealth missions anyways so who cares.

What I hate is Isobel being a pain in the arse every time I do anything mildly wrong.

BretonMage

Bastian

SilverBride wrote: »

BretonMage wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Why someone favors one companion over another is probably a factor of many different things. I prefer Ember because she is enthusiastic and pleasant. The fact that she doesn't care if I steal was insignificant in my choice.

Oh I'm sure many genuinely do like her personality, but if it was based purely on personality preferences, I'd expect a slightly more even distribution amongst the other companions as well. (Isn't Isobel also pleasant, for example?)

Not necessarily. I still haven't done anything with Isobel other than the initial quests so I can't speak to her personality. But Bastian has a reputation of being a goody two shoes and Mirri of being passive aggressive. Not all players see them this way, but enough do that it is probably why they have less votes than Ember who is seen by many as positive and cheerful.

Not meaning to be antagonistic, SilverBride, but those are your opinions of Bastian and Mirri, and while they are not rare, I don't think they are so widespread as to count as reputation. I have seen as many complaints about Bastian's dislike of cheese as I have his morality, just as people complain much more about Mirri's reaction to picking torchbugs than her personality. I really do think that the poll reflects more the inconveniences posed by the rapport mechanics than much else.

I think some of the dialogue for the earlier companions could have been better designed (Mirri's "I'm still here, thanks for asking" is admittedly highly irritating when used any more than one time), and designating crafting and harvesting as rapport busters for them was really unfortunate, so that's why I actually expected Isobel to have polled better here.

SilverBride

Ember

BretonMage wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

BretonMage wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Why someone favors one companion over another is probably a factor of many different things. I prefer Ember because she is enthusiastic and pleasant. The fact that she doesn't care if I steal was insignificant in my choice.

Oh I'm sure many genuinely do like her personality, but if it was based purely on personality preferences, I'd expect a slightly more even distribution amongst the other companions as well. (Isn't Isobel also pleasant, for example?)

Not necessarily. I still haven't done anything with Isobel other than the initial quests so I can't speak to her personality. But Bastian has a reputation of being a goody two shoes and Mirri of being passive aggressive. Not all players see them this way, but enough do that it is probably why they have less votes than Ember who is seen by many as positive and cheerful.

Not meaning to be antagonistic, SilverBride, but those are your opinions of Bastian and Mirri, and while they are not rare, I don't think they are so widespread as to count as reputation. I have seen as many complaints about Bastian's dislike of cheese as I have his morality, just as people complain much more about Mirri's reaction to picking torchbugs than her personality. I really do think that the poll reflects more the inconveniences posed by the rapport mechanics than much else.

I think some of the dialogue for the earlier companions could have been better designed (Mirri's "I'm still here, thanks for asking" is admittedly highly irritating when used any more than one time), and designating crafting and harvesting as rapport busters for them was really unfortunate, so that's why I actually expected Isobel to have polled better here.

All of the feedback here is just out personal opinions. I was just offering and explanation as to why the voting may not be more evenly distributed.

Sevalaricgirl

Isobel

I like Isobel best. Ember is like a young Sith lol. I should add, I have 7 characters currently, had 13 at one point. I use Bastian with my Imperial DK because they fit, my sorc, templar and warden have Isobel, my 2 nightblades and necromancer have Ember. I don't see a use for Mirri.

Kurague

Ember

Sevalaricgirl wrote: »

I like Isobel best. Ember is like a young Sith lol. I should add, I have 7 characters currently, had 13 at one point. I use Bastian with my Imperial DK because they fit, my sorc, templar and warden have Isobel, my 2 nightblades and necromancer have Ember. I don't see a use for Mirri.

Me: Assassinates someone in cold blood with the Blade of Woe
Ember: HAHAHA THAT WAS SO EXCITING

KudnaBeefhooked

I just want an evil companion. Someone like the rat that you get to play with during the questline in the Deadlands. Someone who thinks you're awesome but wants to kill everyone.
Also no more human companions - what about an orc or even a goblin would be fabulous.

Kurague

Ember

KudnaBeefhooked wrote: »

I just want an evil companion. Someone like the rat that you get to play with during the questline in the Deadlands. Someone who thinks you're awesome but wants to kill everyone.
Also no more human companions - what about an orc or even a goblin would be fabulous.

Whatever do you mean with an orc or a Goblin? I WANT LYRANTH as a companion

Syldras

Mirri

The more I read and think about it...

spartaxoxo wrote: »

It's interesting to me how much people call it being "moralistic" to be against theft and murder. It's like, people want to play their characters as morally gray or morally bad. But, then also don't want the games to treat those actions as bad.

Do they? I've seen several who just consider murdering and theft a normal part of the game and necessary to get certain items. They don't really consider it bad, so probably it's not about playing a morally bad character either, but they think it's just... "normal" in a way (and don't want to be judged for playing the "normal" way).

Kurague wrote: »

Me: Assassinates someone in cold blood with the Blade of Woe
Ember: HAHAHA THAT WAS SO EXCITING

That's one reason she wouldn't be of any use even for my assassin characters: Her yelling would draw everyone's attention to them, which is not exactly what you need if you want to get away unseen (of course I know it doesn't have any effect in game, but it would destroy my immersion, personally).

spartaxoxo

IDK/IDC

Syldras wrote: »

The more I read and think about it...

spartaxoxo wrote: »

It's interesting to me how much people call it being "moralistic" to be against theft and murder. It's like, people want to play their characters as morally gray or morally bad. But, then also don't want the games to treat those actions as bad.

Do they? I've seen several who just consider murdering and theft a normal part of the game and necessary to get certain items. They don't really consider it bad, so probably it's not about playing a morally bad character either, but they think it's just... "normal" in a way (and don't want to be judged for playing the "normal" way).

Yes. That's what I meant. Sorry if it was not clear. What I meant was they want to engage in gameplay mechanics that the game telegraphs as morally bad/gray, but don't want their character judged as morally bad/gray for it. Because in their head their character is the good guy saving Tamriel portrayed in the quests. And those actions are just normal ways to get stuff, not something that contradicts their view of their character from the questing. So when a character contradicts their viewpoint that they are the good guy, they feel unfairly judged for gameplay they are viewing as irrelevant to the morality of their character.