Do you play ESO in first person view, third person, or both?

  • Danikat
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    Third person almost always
    In most TES games I play mainly in first person, especially for combat, and only occasionally switch to 3rd person. ESO is the opposite - I mainly play in 3rd person (especially for combat) and only switch to first person when I'm trying to get at an awkwardly placed container, placing furnishings or taking a screenshot and don't want my character in it.

    For me it's more to do with visibility than immersion. My character is not me, regardless of camera angle. If they were me they'd be about as much use in a fight as your average NPC (if that) and would stay in town where it's safe. At most maybe they'd have a small farm in a quiet part of the world. For me role-playing is more about inventing a character to fill a role in the story than self-insertion and that works whether it's first or third person.

    In most TES games I find the 3rd person camera is too close and often in an annoying 'over the shoulder' position so my character takes up too much of the screen and is often in the way of what I'm trying to see, so I use first person for greater visibility. In ESO I can zoom out and position the camera more overhead so the character isn't in the way, and 3rd person allows me to see more of what's to the side, behind and below my character which is often very important.
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  • Grizzbeorn
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    Third person almost always
    Third-person, as exclusively as possible.
    I only go into first-person when the camera forces it.

    I can't do first-person aspect, willfully; just isn't my jam.
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    • Ragnarok0130
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      Third person almost always
      I played First Person in beta and at launch and then shortly after launch switched to third person. After playing TES games for years it took a bit to get used to but it much better for running group content IMO.
    • Destai
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      Third person mostly but some first person too
      Once in a while, I'll turn off the HUD and put it in 1st person, makes for a good immersion experience. Did that last weekend and just hunted around Orsinium. Other than those occasions, I'm always 3rd person.
    • Marronsuisse
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      About half and half
      Two of my characters I currently play almost exclusively solo doing story quests, and I play them in first person. If I end up taking one of them into a dungeon or something I switch to third person though.

      I made one character specifically for doing dungeons and group play, etc. and I always play them in third person, even if I'm just running around crafting. They're a wood elf so first person feels weirdly short, anyway. :p
    • Kalik_Gold
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      Third person almost always
      Third person almost always!
      Main: (PvP & PvE)
      Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

      PvP:
      Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
      Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
      Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
      Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
      Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

      PvP: (Specialty)
      Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
      Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
      Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
      Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden

      PvE:
      Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
      Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
      Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
      Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
      Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade

      Leveling...
      Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
      Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
      Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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      Passives of another race used. (RP)
      *Breton
      **Imperial




      __________________________Backstories:_________________________

      Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

      Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

      Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

      Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

      Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

      The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

      The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

      Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

      Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

      And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

      After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

      After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

      Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

      Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

      {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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    • Ashryn
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      Third person almost always
      I used to love playing in 1st person when it came to games like Skyrim; but now that I am older and frequently get motion sick in 1st, its 3rd person always. Added benefit is that you can fight better with the increased view.
    • Parasaurolophus
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      Third person almost always
      I strongly believe that "true" TES is played only in the first person, because only the game in the first person provides the same indescribable effect of deep immersion. Playing TES in third person is like playing GTA in first person.
      But eso is mmo. At first, I also played eso in first person. However, as soon as I began to master the veteran content, I immediately realized that I needed to change the view to a third person, otherwise, alas, it would not be effective to play.
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    • Browiseth
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      Third person almost always
      I strongly believe that "true" TES is played only in the first person, because only the game in the first person provides the same indescribable effect of deep immersion. Playing TES in third person is like playing GTA in first person.
      But eso is mmo. At first, I also played eso in first person. However, as soon as I began to master the veteran content, I immediately realized that I needed to change the view to a third person, otherwise, alas, it would not be effective to play.

      i think it's pretty interesting you imply a "true" TES experience is a first-person one when third person has been an thing all the way back in TES: Redguard, and has been an option in every ES game that anyone even talks about (so morrowind, oblivion and skyrim)

      you can enjoy playing these games a particular way, that's great, but to try and imply there is a "proper" way to play them does a disservice to the games and the choices they provide their players in experiencing the worlds they take place in.
      Edited by Browiseth on June 20, 2022 4:42PM
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    • xgoku1
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      First person mostly but some third person too
      I play with First person view while Questing since I feel it is more immersive.

      But for any "serious content" I switch to third person because honestly this game's combat design isn't compatible with first person view.
    • Kiralyn2000
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      Third person almost always
      Danikat wrote: »
      For me it's more to do with visibility than immersion. My character is not me, regardless of camera angle.

      This. I don't "immersion". I'm a gamer, externally puppeting very fancy action figures around on very fancy gameboards. I'm not "in the world", regardless of the camera.*

      So, I pick whichever view works better for the gameplay. In ESO, that's third person. In the single-player TES games, that's first person. /shrug


      (* this very much fits with how I've thought about things my whole life. As a kid, I never imagined myself 'in' the books or movies I read/watched. I never imagined myself as my favorite heroes or sports stars. Raiders of the Lost Ark made me think "I want to be an archaeologist" - HA! :D - not "I want to be Indiana Jones.")
    • amapola76
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      About half and half
      Third person for combat, first person for nearly everything else.

      With limited exceptions: like if I'm moving back and forth quickly between alts for some reason, like swapping out bank items, anniversary crafting, etc., and I need to easily remember which one I'm playing, then I'll stay in third person. But I find my immersion is better with first person. There are also certain actions, like stealing, where I find camera control to be really awkward and difficult in third person.
    • Mesite
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      About half and half
      I find my fingers messing with the wheel on my mouse all the time, just unintentionally. On the Xbox it depends what I'm doing more but I change when I'm trying to drink a potion, again accidentally.
    • Mesite
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      About half and half
      I have also heard that the internet connection struggles less in first person
    • Marginis
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      Third person mostly but some first person too
      First person rarely, but it's definitely a thing when I'm getting immersed or moving furniture in my houses.

      Close third person most of the time. Good for general adventuring, still pretty immersive, plus I get to see my outfit I put time into from over the shoulder.

      Far third person when I need to do a dungeon, trial, or PVP. There are too many effects in the game that can make combat way too much from too close a perspective.
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    • Tenthirty2
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      Third person mostly but some first person too
      Almost always in 3rd.
      Times I do use 1st is housing obvs, but even out of build mode if I'm trying to decide on placement or want to scale or look at an area to get ideas it's just easier in 1st for some reason.

      1st is also excellent when looting lots of varied things, diff sizes, piles of coins etc. Some of them are too hard to get onto the reticle in 3rd person.

      And for screen shots of the environment, 1st person.
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    • M_Volsung
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      About half and half
      I change it up depending on what I'm doing at the time.
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    • DukeCybran
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      Third person almost always
      You may catch some eyes problem when grouping with a Templar.
    • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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      Third person almost always
      I have played all ES titles until ESO in first person. It is certainly more immersive. I played ESO in first person for the better part of a year.

      Then I learned to play. LOL

      Lets face it, combat in other ES titles is an afterthought. Its absurdly easy. Combat in ESO is a completely different ballgame, and it's clearly designed with 3rd Person view in mind. Not playing in 3rd person when in combat in ESO is just putting yourself at a massive and unintended disadvantage.

      If you are new to ESO or ever want to be competitive in any type of endgame, heck, even if you just want to join a vet group finder, stop the first person nonsense immediately when in combat . If you just want to quest or RP under a bridge in Riften in first person, knock yourself out.
      Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on June 22, 2022 3:26AM
    • SeaGtGruff
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      Third person almost always
      For the most part, I play in third-person view with the zoom scrolled out as far as it will go. I only switch to first-person view if there's something I need or want to get a closer look at.
      I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
    • Michae
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      Third person almost always
      I only go first person when I want to look at something specific in the enviroment. All the levels are clearly designed with third person in mind, with their high ceilings and spacious corridors. Also you need to have spatial awareness that first person doesn't provide and most skills are harder to aim/use in first person.

      PS. One more thing, I do use first person when placing furniture in housing.
      Edited by Michae on June 22, 2022 7:20AM
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    • Sjestenka
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      Third person mostly but some first person too
      Switching to first person only if i wanna admire the view or take a closer look at something like an animal or clutter
    • Carcamongus
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      Third person almost always
      I occasionally turn to first person if I need a closer view of something (possibly illegal) I want to grab.
      For a radical experience, perform the grappling in Unhallowed Grave in first person. Try it, what could possibly go wrong?
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    • Grianasteri
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      Third person almost always
      Pleasantly surprised to see that the majority, like me, seem to play in 3rd person mostly.

      I had for some reason always thought I was a bit strange in doing so! So many folks I would speak with said they play mostly in 1st person and in combat almost always 1st person.


      Now, the crucial question is.. does anyone know what happened to 2nd person?
    • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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      Third person almost always
      Pleasantly surprised to see that the majority, like me, seem to play in 3rd person mostly.

      I had for some reason always thought I was a bit strange in doing so! So many folks I would speak with said they play mostly in 1st person and in combat almost always 1st person.


      Now, the crucial question is.. does anyone know what happened to 2nd person?

      2nd Person is when you hop into Cyrodiil late on a Friday night after several adult beverages, and magically, there are two players on your screen.
    • whitecrow
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      Third person almost always
      3rd person always. 1st person is crippling and anyway, I like to see my character.
    • Iselin
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      Third person almost always
      Full disclosure:

      I made this poll mostly in response to a post in another thread where I said I spend some time in character creation making sure that my characters' derrieres are attractive that someone responded to with:

      "This butt discussion is just too funny! It doesn't matter to me at all since I only play in 1st person view anyway, so why bother with a body part I never see myself (actually like in real life)? :D"

      That got me curious about how common it is in ESO to not see your own character often or ever. I think you all have answered that question :)
    • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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      Third person almost always
      For fun, this was my buddy D'Enoht healing The Twins (AKA the Friendship Destroyers) in first person about 5 years ago. D was one of the better healers in all of Tamriel way back in the day. We were one of the first to clear VMOL HM, and it was a lot of late nights. Every now and then he would whisper me saying that he did that pull in first person. Haha.

      I wasn't in this particular group, but looks like @paulsimonps was tanking/raid leading this one. Wonder if he knew what shenanigans D was up to at the time. :D

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKL_3BJG51k

      D said in the comments that the color swaps required him to look down at his feet. I definitely would have blown up a few of my friends if I tried this. LOL
      Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on June 22, 2022 8:36PM
    • WiseSky
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      Third person mostly but some first person too
      Depending if I am questing I am in FPV if not it's 3rd person
    • Cadbury
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      Third person almost always
      Danikat wrote: »
      For me it's more to do with visibility than immersion. My character is not me, regardless of camera angle.

      This. I don't "immersion". I'm a gamer, externally puppeting very fancy action figures around on very fancy gameboards. I'm not "in the world", regardless of the camera.*

      So, I pick whichever view works better for the gameplay. In ESO, that's third person. In the single-player TES games, that's first person. /shrug


      (* this very much fits with how I've thought about things my whole life. As a kid, I never imagined myself 'in' the books or movies I read/watched. I never imagined myself as my favorite heroes or sports stars. Raiders of the Lost Ark made me think "I want to be an archaeologist" - HA! :D - not "I want to be Indiana Jones.")

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      "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
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