I'll just say this - there is absolutely no chance that ZOS is ever going to make Tales of Tribute pay to win or either acquire cards via real money. 2 reasons: we havent seen any chapter feature yet being sold or upgraded for real money (antiquities, companions for example). Second - the deck is going to be shuffled so your possible paid cards can go to non-paying player - you can even not draw any of your OP cards and they would all go to your opponent so it's absolutely not reasonable to implement pay to win in this form.
I'll just say this - there is absolutely no chance that ZOS is ever going to make Tales of Tribute pay to win or either acquire cards via real money. 2 reasons: we havent seen any chapter feature yet being sold or upgraded for real money (antiquities, companions for example). Second - the deck is going to be shuffled so your possible paid cards can go to non-paying player - you can even not draw any of your OP cards and they would all go to your opponent so it's absolutely not reasonable to implement pay to win in this form.
Have they actually given enough information on how it works to tell us things like this? Especially the part in bold.
WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »I'll just say this - there is absolutely no chance that ZOS is ever going to make Tales of Tribute pay to win or either acquire cards via real money. 2 reasons: we havent seen any chapter feature yet being sold or upgraded for real money (antiquities, companions for example). Second - the deck is going to be shuffled so your possible paid cards can go to non-paying player - you can even not draw any of your OP cards and they would all go to your opponent so it's absolutely not reasonable to implement pay to win in this form.
Have they actually given enough information on how it works to tell us things like this? Especially the part in bold.
Didn’t the stream mention that we’d be selecting a deck from each player and then combining them?
WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »I'll just say this - there is absolutely no chance that ZOS is ever going to make Tales of Tribute pay to win or either acquire cards via real money. 2 reasons: we havent seen any chapter feature yet being sold or upgraded for real money (antiquities, companions for example). Second - the deck is going to be shuffled so your possible paid cards can go to non-paying player - you can even not draw any of your OP cards and they would all go to your opponent so it's absolutely not reasonable to implement pay to win in this form.
Have they actually given enough information on how it works to tell us things like this? Especially the part in bold.
Didn’t the stream mention that we’d be selecting a deck from each player and then combining them?
If ZOS was planning on abandoning the game, they wouldn't be spending the year reworking base code to finally fix PvP. People have been saying the game is dying or going to be closed ever since the game was released.AJones43865 wrote: »This years global reveal, in total, convinced me that ZOS is winding down it's investment into ESO and they aren't going back. If you look at how over the last couple years new content has been getting smaller and smaller and is less related to the original base game, with essentially all content, mounts etc. being a reskinned version of things we already have, it appears ZOS is on track to cease all investments into ESO in a couple years or so. I am now wholly convinced that ZOS is not investing anything into ESO they don't absolutely have to and it's unlikely they are making the investments required to fix any performance issues. I'd like to be wrong, but based on the evidence I am not.
I mean, this year even one of the 'perks' for pre-ordering the collectors bundle is an emote that we already have. ??? (/ownthrone is not new)
If ZOS was planning on abandoning the game, they wouldn't be spending the year reworking base code to finally fix PvP. People have been saying the game is dying or going to be closed ever since the game was released.AJones43865 wrote: »This years global reveal, in total, convinced me that ZOS is winding down it's investment into ESO and they aren't going back. If you look at how over the last couple years new content has been getting smaller and smaller and is less related to the original base game, with essentially all content, mounts etc. being a reskinned version of things we already have, it appears ZOS is on track to cease all investments into ESO in a couple years or so. I am now wholly convinced that ZOS is not investing anything into ESO they don't absolutely have to and it's unlikely they are making the investments required to fix any performance issues. I'd like to be wrong, but based on the evidence I am not.
I mean, this year even one of the 'perks' for pre-ordering the collectors bundle is an emote that we already have. ??? (/ownthrone is not new)
If ZOS was planning on abandoning the game, they wouldn't be spending the year reworking base code to finally fix PvP. People have been saying the game is dying or going to be closed ever since the game was released.AJones43865 wrote: »This years global reveal, in total, convinced me that ZOS is winding down it's investment into ESO and they aren't going back. If you look at how over the last couple years new content has been getting smaller and smaller and is less related to the original base game, with essentially all content, mounts etc. being a reskinned version of things we already have, it appears ZOS is on track to cease all investments into ESO in a couple years or so. I am now wholly convinced that ZOS is not investing anything into ESO they don't absolutely have to and it's unlikely they are making the investments required to fix any performance issues. I'd like to be wrong, but based on the evidence I am not.
I mean, this year even one of the 'perks' for pre-ordering the collectors bundle is an emote that we already have. ??? (/ownthrone is not new)
Even before then I saw some people saying ESO was 'obviously' only being developed to bridge the gap until the next TES game and would be maintained for maybe 2-3 years at most.
I suppose if people keep on saying it's going to shut down 'soon' for long enough they will eventually be able to claim they were right all along, because no game lasts forever. (Although Ultima Online is still going and that's over 20 years old now, so they might have a long wait.)
ZOS called it a 'deck building game', that usually means something like Magic the Gathering, Pokemon cards, Netrunner etc. where each player has their own deck which they can customise ahead of the game and cards are not shared between players.
Other than the initial announcement and the couple of sentences currently on the main site I've not seen any information on how exactly the game works - either while playing it or how cards will be obtained - so I don't see how we can know this deck building game will be different to all the others and both players will share 1 deck.
If ZOS was planning on abandoning the game, they wouldn't be spending the year reworking base code to finally fix PvP. People have been saying the game is dying or going to be closed ever since the game was released.AJones43865 wrote: »This years global reveal, in total, convinced me that ZOS is winding down it's investment into ESO and they aren't going back. If you look at how over the last couple years new content has been getting smaller and smaller and is less related to the original base game, with essentially all content, mounts etc. being a reskinned version of things we already have, it appears ZOS is on track to cease all investments into ESO in a couple years or so. I am now wholly convinced that ZOS is not investing anything into ESO they don't absolutely have to and it's unlikely they are making the investments required to fix any performance issues. I'd like to be wrong, but based on the evidence I am not.
I mean, this year even one of the 'perks' for pre-ordering the collectors bundle is an emote that we already have. ??? (/ownthrone is not new)