SilverBride wrote: »I invite you to a friendly wager. 42.000 crowns if you manage to make one of the biggest houses "pretty filled in" - by community standards, housing discords/guilds and EHT hub should provide plenty of examples - if I were to name a famous creator who manages to make houses "filled in" - albeit by closing off portions of them or using smaller houses, that'd be Lovathy - and that is the catch: you'd have to do so without blocking off significant portions of them. Pull it off on a 700 house and win 42.000 crowns, live-streamed if need be, with the whole forum as a witness to my wager.
That is very compelling but first of all, I don't belong to any housing discords and I don't use EHT. I used to belong to a housing guild but left due to non housing related issues.
Also, I have never closed off any part of any house I own.
Then, more importantly, which houses qualify as one of the biggest houses? Just saw the 700 slot requirement. I have already decorated some large homes, such as Serenity Falls Estate (my very first house, decorated as a country estate and one character's private home, with a guest house), Antiquarian's Alpine Gallery (decorated as a mountain guest lodge) and Hall of the Lunar Champion (decorated as a museum with a Curator's office and a garden with a tea room). I have also decorated Alinor Crest Townhouse and Proudspire Manor which are decent sized (decorated as my character's private homes). And I consider all of these "filled in", yet no house is ever 100% complete as long as new items are added to the game that I may want to add to my decor.
If any of these qualify and you would like a tour then I'll accept the challenge.
Razberry9876 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »I invite you to a friendly wager. 42.000 crowns if you manage to make one of the biggest houses "pretty filled in" - by community standards, housing discords/guilds and EHT hub should provide plenty of examples - if I were to name a famous creator who manages to make houses "filled in" - albeit by closing off portions of them or using smaller houses, that'd be Lovathy - and that is the catch: you'd have to do so without blocking off significant portions of them. Pull it off on a 700 house and win 42.000 crowns, live-streamed if need be, with the whole forum as a witness to my wager.
That is very compelling but first of all, I don't belong to any housing discords and I don't use EHT. I used to belong to a housing guild but left due to non housing related issues.
Also, I have never closed off any part of any house I own.
Then, more importantly, which houses qualify as one of the biggest houses? Just saw the 700 slot requirement. I have already decorated some large homes, such as Serenity Falls Estate (my very first house, decorated as a country estate and one character's private home, with a guest house), Antiquarian's Alpine Gallery (decorated as a mountain guest lodge) and Hall of the Lunar Champion (decorated as a museum with a Curator's office and a garden with a tea room). I have also decorated Alinor Crest Townhouse and Proudspire Manor which are decent sized (decorated as my character's private homes). And I consider all of these "filled in", yet no house is ever 100% complete as long as new items are added to the game that I may want to add to my decor.
If any of these qualify and you would like a tour then I'll accept the challenge.
See, this perfectly explains the type of decorator you are to me. I understand completely as my Alinor Crest Townhouse (600/600) is perfectly filled in & decorated exactly as I want it. But, it's that size of property & it is at max capacity. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your approach to decorating versus mine. We simply have different styles & I'm CDO over making my properties look as though my toons live in these homes with the appropriate details (Bathrooms Matter People). But, as I represent a huge segment of the housing community, they really need to focus on the changes that matter to us as a whole. 😉
matterandstuff wrote: »It's not that hard to furnish Hall of the Lunar Champion or Antiquarians Gallery. Hell, Antiquarians Gallery is what, two rooms? They're some of the only 700-slot houses in the game that are basically logically sized for the limit.
matterandstuff wrote: »If he tried to fill Pantherfang or the Ayleid Ruins, he wouldn't have the same attitude, because it would be absurd. It just can't be done.
Crafting stations, mundus stones, house guests, and some other utilities should not cost housing furniture slots! This would also make it more appealing for players to, you know, actually buy them.
Every expansion with new crafted sets, new house guests, and new utilities makes this problem worse and worse. So it is time to separate those slots from the house's maximum. With all the recent database improvements this should now probably be possible?
I'm still working on getting my set crafting stations and when I found out those took furnitureslots away, I had to remove furniture. And soon I will have to remove even more, as I am still working on the crafting stations.
PS: I'm using the hew's bane palace as my main house, and have ESO+.
PPS: 68 x 4 = 272 slots for crafting alone. That alone is over 1/3rd of the total slots.
SilverBride wrote: »Razberry9876 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »I invite you to a friendly wager. 42.000 crowns if you manage to make one of the biggest houses "pretty filled in" - by community standards, housing discords/guilds and EHT hub should provide plenty of examples - if I were to name a famous creator who manages to make houses "filled in" - albeit by closing off portions of them or using smaller houses, that'd be Lovathy - and that is the catch: you'd have to do so without blocking off significant portions of them. Pull it off on a 700 house and win 42.000 crowns, live-streamed if need be, with the whole forum as a witness to my wager.
That is very compelling but first of all, I don't belong to any housing discords and I don't use EHT. I used to belong to a housing guild but left due to non housing related issues.
Also, I have never closed off any part of any house I own.
Then, more importantly, which houses qualify as one of the biggest houses? Just saw the 700 slot requirement. I have already decorated some large homes, such as Serenity Falls Estate (my very first house, decorated as a country estate and one character's private home, with a guest house), Antiquarian's Alpine Gallery (decorated as a mountain guest lodge) and Hall of the Lunar Champion (decorated as a museum with a Curator's office and a garden with a tea room). I have also decorated Alinor Crest Townhouse and Proudspire Manor which are decent sized (decorated as my character's private homes). And I consider all of these "filled in", yet no house is ever 100% complete as long as new items are added to the game that I may want to add to my decor.
If any of these qualify and you would like a tour then I'll accept the challenge.
See, this perfectly explains the type of decorator you are to me. I understand completely as my Alinor Crest Townhouse (600/600) is perfectly filled in & decorated exactly as I want it. But, it's that size of property & it is at max capacity. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your approach to decorating versus mine. We simply have different styles & I'm CDO over making my properties look as though my toons live in these homes with the appropriate details (Bathrooms Matter People). But, as I represent a huge segment of the housing community, they really need to focus on the changes that matter to us as a whole. 😉
I appreciate your view that bathrooms matter, because all my character's personal homes have bathrooms.
I'm not sure what type of decorator you see me as, but I would be glad to show you some of my properties if you are on PC NA to show you that it is possible to fully decorate within the item limits.
SilverBride wrote: »I still don't understand how ESO+ use all their slots. I've decorated several houses from the smallest apartments to notable homes and the apartments are the only ones I've used all the slots in. I have 100+ slots unused in most of my homes and they look pretty filled in.
Razberry9876 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »Razberry9876 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »I invite you to a friendly wager. 42.000 crowns if you manage to make one of the biggest houses "pretty filled in" - by community standards, housing discords/guilds and EHT hub should provide plenty of examples - if I were to name a famous creator who manages to make houses "filled in" - albeit by closing off portions of them or using smaller houses, that'd be Lovathy - and that is the catch: you'd have to do so without blocking off significant portions of them. Pull it off on a 700 house and win 42.000 crowns, live-streamed if need be, with the whole forum as a witness to my wager.
That is very compelling but first of all, I don't belong to any housing discords and I don't use EHT. I used to belong to a housing guild but left due to non housing related issues.
Also, I have never closed off any part of any house I own.
Then, more importantly, which houses qualify as one of the biggest houses? Just saw the 700 slot requirement. I have already decorated some large homes, such as Serenity Falls Estate (my very first house, decorated as a country estate and one character's private home, with a guest house), Antiquarian's Alpine Gallery (decorated as a mountain guest lodge) and Hall of the Lunar Champion (decorated as a museum with a Curator's office and a garden with a tea room). I have also decorated Alinor Crest Townhouse and Proudspire Manor which are decent sized (decorated as my character's private homes). And I consider all of these "filled in", yet no house is ever 100% complete as long as new items are added to the game that I may want to add to my decor.
If any of these qualify and you would like a tour then I'll accept the challenge.
See, this perfectly explains the type of decorator you are to me. I understand completely as my Alinor Crest Townhouse (600/600) is perfectly filled in & decorated exactly as I want it. But, it's that size of property & it is at max capacity. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your approach to decorating versus mine. We simply have different styles & I'm CDO over making my properties look as though my toons live in these homes with the appropriate details (Bathrooms Matter People). But, as I represent a huge segment of the housing community, they really need to focus on the changes that matter to us as a whole. 😉
I appreciate your view that bathrooms matter, because all my character's personal homes have bathrooms.
I'm not sure what type of decorator you see me as, but I would be glad to show you some of my properties if you are on PC NA to show you that it is possible to fully decorate within the item limits.
The kind that is more minimalist than I who likes more clutter/details than you do & who (probably) doesn't create new objects out of various different ones - i.e. - the food case, the signs, or any of the displays in my Antiquarian’s Alpine Gallery (if you actually clicked the link & watched the videos of my builds) are examples of how I use multiple furnishings to create new ones. Please correct me if I'm mistaken & know that I mean no offense. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with different approaches to decorating & I'm glad that you're happy with the current limits. Unfortunately, many of us are not. 😉
Razberry9876 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »Razberry9876 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »I invite you to a friendly wager. 42.000 crowns if you manage to make one of the biggest houses "pretty filled in" - by community standards, housing discords/guilds and EHT hub should provide plenty of examples - if I were to name a famous creator who manages to make houses "filled in" - albeit by closing off portions of them or using smaller houses, that'd be Lovathy - and that is the catch: you'd have to do so without blocking off significant portions of them. Pull it off on a 700 house and win 42.000 crowns, live-streamed if need be, with the whole forum as a witness to my wager.
That is very compelling but first of all, I don't belong to any housing discords and I don't use EHT. I used to belong to a housing guild but left due to non housing related issues.
Also, I have never closed off any part of any house I own.
Then, more importantly, which houses qualify as one of the biggest houses? Just saw the 700 slot requirement. I have already decorated some large homes, such as Serenity Falls Estate (my very first house, decorated as a country estate and one character's private home, with a guest house), Antiquarian's Alpine Gallery (decorated as a mountain guest lodge) and Hall of the Lunar Champion (decorated as a museum with a Curator's office and a garden with a tea room). I have also decorated Alinor Crest Townhouse and Proudspire Manor which are decent sized (decorated as my character's private homes). And I consider all of these "filled in", yet no house is ever 100% complete as long as new items are added to the game that I may want to add to my decor.
If any of these qualify and you would like a tour then I'll accept the challenge.
See, this perfectly explains the type of decorator you are to me. I understand completely as my Alinor Crest Townhouse (600/600) is perfectly filled in & decorated exactly as I want it. But, it's that size of property & it is at max capacity. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your approach to decorating versus mine. We simply have different styles & I'm CDO over making my properties look as though my toons live in these homes with the appropriate details (Bathrooms Matter People). But, as I represent a huge segment of the housing community, they really need to focus on the changes that matter to us as a whole. 😉
I appreciate your view that bathrooms matter, because all my character's personal homes have bathrooms.
I'm not sure what type of decorator you see me as, but I would be glad to show you some of my properties if you are on PC NA to show you that it is possible to fully decorate within the item limits.
The kind that is more minimalist than I who likes more clutter/details than you do & who (probably) doesn't create new objects out of various different ones - i.e. - the food case, the signs, or any of the displays in my Antiquarian’s Alpine Gallery (if you actually clicked the link & watched the videos of my builds) are examples of how I use multiple furnishings to create new ones. Please correct me if I'm mistaken & know that I mean no offense. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with different approaches to decorating & I'm glad that you're happy with the current limits. Unfortunately, many of us are not. 😉
SilverBride wrote: »I still don't understand how ESO+ use all their slots. I've decorated several houses from the smallest apartments to notable homes and the apartments are the only ones I've used all the slots in. I have 100+ slots unused in most of my homes and they look pretty filled in.
SilverBride wrote: »I still don't understand how ESO+ use all their slots. I've decorated several houses from the smallest apartments to notable homes and the apartments are the only ones I've used all the slots in. I have 100+ slots unused in most of my homes and they look pretty filled in.
My primary house is 550/700, and not even half complete. I just gave up on it to avoid the inevitable disappointment of having an incomplete home when I hit the cap.
It’s crazy how much money ZOS is leaving on the table! Many have said they would pay for more slots, and imagine all the furnishing packs and crown store items people are not buying because they have no place to put them!
NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »I still don't understand how ESO+ use all their slots. I've decorated several houses from the smallest apartments to notable homes and the apartments are the only ones I've used all the slots in. I have 100+ slots unused in most of my homes and they look pretty filled in.
My primary house is 550/700, and not even half complete. I just gave up on it to avoid the inevitable disappointment of having an incomplete home when I hit the cap.
It’s crazy how much money ZOS is leaving on the table! Many have said they would pay for more slots, and imagine all the furnishing packs and crown store items people are not buying because they have no place to put them!
They aren't doing it by choice. They simply can't increase the slots. It's not like they have a super easy solution to increase the housing slots but decides not to because they feel like being mean to those who wants it.
SilverBride wrote: »I still don't understand how ESO+ use all their slots. I've decorated several houses from the smallest apartments to notable homes and the apartments are the only ones I've used all the slots in. I have 100+ slots unused in most of my homes and they look pretty filled in.
My primary house is 550/700, and not even half complete. I just gave up on it to avoid the inevitable disappointment of having an incomplete home when I hit the cap.
It’s crazy how much money ZOS is leaving on the table! Many have said they would pay for more slots, and imagine all the furnishing packs and crown store items people are not buying because they have no place to put them!
Well I'm glad you guys have the inside information that I don't. Every other part of the game is evolving, systems are getting faster and more capable, but housing is stuck in the past because 'they just can't.'
That being said, improving performance is not a magic bullet solution for raising the furnishing cap in houses. “Performance” is a blanket term that encompasses frame rate, stability, memory usage, and other metrics related to how the game runs. Right now, setups that hit the minimum specifications can still struggle with homes that are fully decorated with relatively high impact furnishings.
We know that many of you have been hoping that our focus on performance improvements this year would directly result in an increased furnishing cap. We still have a lot of work left on the performance front and when it’s completed, we will reevaluate to see if we can increase the furnishing limits.
spartaxoxo wrote: »It's in the housing forum. You can read their post about it. They literally can't. They want to and are working on performance in a lot of areas so maybe that will change in the future, but right now they cannot.
spartaxoxo wrote: »It's in the housing forum. You can read their post about it. They literally can't. They want to and are working on performance in a lot of areas so maybe that will change in the future, but right now they cannot.
Lol, that was almost 2 years ago. You saying they are stuck in a time warp? But then again, their "Year(s) of Performance" may indicate that you might be correct.
it's 2021 for [snip] cake, "bytes of data add up" is not an excuse.
i can't fathom what is holding them back from adding more furnishing slots already.
there's no denying how restrictive the measly amount currently is- and not just for notable homes.
it's a real shame, such pretty homes & furnishings that we can't use to their full potential.
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Razberry9876 wrote: »
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Which is how I know that the housing increase of slots would break our current servers. All of these houses over all of their instances as individual account residences require item identifiers & positional data that would render the current servers dead for all time.
Ravensilver wrote: »Razberry9876 wrote: »
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Which is how I know that the housing increase of slots would break our current servers. All of these houses over all of their instances as individual account residences require item identifiers & positional data that would render the current servers dead for all time.
What I don't understand is, why then is Fargrave no problem. Hundreds and hundreds and *hundreds* of different furnishings, with twirling gems and glowing stuff and wandering NPCs and players porting in and out of the zone every few seconds and rushing about on mounts. The servers seem to have no trouble handling that...