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Shadowfen node farming wars

  • SeaGtGruff
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    After seeing this post, I had to go visit Shadowfen to witness what all ya'all are talking about.

    That was me, too! When I first heard about the lead, I was like, "Yeah, whatever," because I haven't gotten into grinding for all of the various mythic items or whatever they're called-- have not acquired a single one of them yet, on any character.

    But after several days of reading about the situation, I decided to go see for myself. And then, somehow, I ended up getting sucked into it for four days-- one day (or a small part of a day) on PC NA, and three long days on PC EU.

    I'm still not sure how or why I got sucked into it, other than wanting to Just Get It Over With.

    Except, now that I've found, scried, and excavated the lead, I've still got four more leads before I'll have the thingy that I don't even particularly care about, so...

    Me <---- Crazy person
    I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
  • renne
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    You all think it's hard for you, imagine how it is for those of us without an Oceania server.

    I was on a node yesterday and this skeleton came up and stood next to me (they'd been back and forth a LOT before so they knew I was there for that and not moving around looking for others).

    I hit collect AS SOON AS the node came up on my screen, but they already had it almost before it had even loaded in for me. It's absolute garbage. People are absolute garbage. And ZoS is absolute garbage for thinking this is a good way to have a lead drop when it's NOT equal chance for everyone.
  • Hapexamendios
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    I went into Shadowfen this morning on PS4 NA just to see how it was. It's pretty crazy with people harvesting the water based nodes. Much to my delight they're ignoring all the other ones. I walked along the shore picking up everything they ignored and still found some water based nodes.
  • xeNNNNN
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    renne wrote: »
    You all think it's hard for you, imagine how it is for those of us without an Oceania server.

    I was on a node yesterday and this skeleton came up and stood next to me (they'd been back and forth a LOT before so they knew I was there for that and not moving around looking for others).

    I hit collect AS SOON AS the node came up on my screen, but they already had it almost before it had even loaded in for me. It's absolute garbage. People are absolute garbage. And ZoS is absolute garbage for thinking this is a good way to have a lead drop when it's NOT equal chance for everyone.

    Yeah the the delay has to make it so much worse for you guys, Jesus I almost feel bad for getting annoyed when my ms jumps above 100 lol
    Ah, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.
  • Firstmep
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    AndyMac wrote: »
    The Shadowfen lead is a woeful piece of game design. It’s as if ZOS took all the feedback about the Badman Hollows Pale Order lead and concluded they needed to implement something far worse.

    I was hearing about DAYS spent in Shadowfen - very unhappy players abounded.

    I get that there has to be grind, but if mythics are going to be the new monster sets - and that seems to be the direction we’re going - there should be at least some level of entertainment involved.

    We did pay for this- after all.

    This. 100%. This a video game. It is supposed to be entertaining.
    Period. There's no blame to go around except for ZoS, they're the ones responsible for creating a toxic, contentious situation.
    Anyone with a brain could've seen this coming straight away.
    Some of these mythic lead grinds just make 0 sense, forcing people to do the most mundane and boring things in game, and even in Markarth we had the chest framing debacle, but this time it's even worse.
    You can't expect people not to want to have access to a strong item.
  • HugoG92
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    Feels bad :(
  • Dalsinthus
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    I’m 3.5 hours and >70 nodes in and no lead. Xbox did seem less toxic this morning but this is still badly implemented. The other leads for this set have dropped readily.
  • xeNNNNN
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    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    I’m 3.5 hours and >70 nodes in and no lead. Xbox did seem less toxic this morning but this is still badly implemented. The other leads for this set have dropped readily.

    Probably the people who were going to do it already checked the forum haha

    I actually got my lead today without even trying, last week I tried to farm it then I gave up "nah im not going to bother" then I just farmed arx then I went back to it a day or so later for an hour, got immensely bored and buggered off again.

    Just thought to myself ah what the hell im bored so I went to try and do it again, didn't expect to get it even said I wouldn't. Got it on the 7th node I checked.

    I swear this game tries its best to convince people that they only get things when they don't care about it lol
    Ah, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.
  • HugoG92
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    Do we have an ETA for this issue?
  • Inaya
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    I pre-ordered Greymoor and still have no mythics.

    :joy:

    Same and what's more is I don't really care right now ;)
  • Elsonso
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    HugoG92 wrote: »
    Do we have an ETA for this issue?

    They haven't even said they are going to change anything. All they have said is that they are going to take these comments into consideration when they review their drop-rate data.
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  • bbrown0770
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    Got my lead on Xbox in 1 hr farming 4 nods within site of each other maybe 30 collects
    GT: Sir Ben 0770
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  • Nastassiya
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    Shadowfen won't be this way forever. In a few weeks I expect this to die down.
  • Wolf_Eye
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    I think the worst part of all this is that the mythic is going to inevitably be nerfed, like the Stranglers were. You can just FEEL it coming. These people spending 19+ hours on this lead...only to have their hard work and effort flushed down the drain. There's no reason for this sort of pain. This is awful.
  • Kwoung
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    Looted one node 300+ times now as well as many other various nodes when I have the time to run around... No lead still.
  • JTD
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    Wolf_Eye wrote: »
    I think the worst part of all this is that the mythic is going to inevitably be nerfed, like the Stranglers were. You can just FEEL it coming. These people spending 19+ hours on this lead...only to have their hard work and effort flushed down the drain. There's no reason for this sort of pain. This is awful.

    Welcome to and an MMORPG and a game where its balancing team has no clue how their (diiferent)playerbases play the game and thus can't manage to balance it.

  • BlueRaven
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    Is the drop that rare? Crazy.
  • Elsonso
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Is the drop that rare? Crazy.

    RNG is not the friend of everyone.
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  • Odovacar
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    HugoG92 wrote: »
    Do we have an ETA for this issue?

    They haven't even said they are going to change anything. All they have said is that they are going to take these comments into consideration when they review their drop-rate data.

    so do you really thing they will even change anything? My guess is a big no.
    Edited by Odovacar on June 11, 2021 8:21PM
  • FinrodMacBeorn
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    Just to chime in after I've got the lead on Monday morning (home office ftw) after about 13 hours - most of it camping a node while working on split screen mode.

    Regarding "grind is a part of mmos": I would not play a grindy game and even pay for it - my time is too valuable. ESO usually has not this kind of mindless grind. There is grind, but it's grinding by playing the game actively (I look at you, inferno staffs!) - that's ok, though there really should be some limits implemented against extremely bad luck (which would be easy when you know how to do it, even without token systems).

    Regarding "one does not need the mythic": If you have no ambition in the fighting part of the game or happen to play tank, healer or stam dd - yes! Ambitious mag dds can partly (means: not in all situations) compensate the grand nerf of all monster sets, so it's a must for them by design - and prolly with full intent. Maybe it will be nerfed in the next DLC - the more reason to get it fast to have some fun with the kilt which is one of the few bonusses which blackwood equipment has to offer.

    The shadowfen lead is threefold bad design: Extremely low drop chance (at most 1% - leading to rather many people needing more than the just tolerable 2-3 hours for such an endeavour), extremely dull task and additionally high competition between players.

    For once, I book it under "accidental slip". A repetition will mean that my time in ESO will come to an end.





  • BlueRaven
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    Elsonso wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Is the drop that rare? Crazy.

    RNG is not the friend of everyone.

    I have not tried to go for it. So I have no idea. That is why I asked if it was rare.
  • Agenericname
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Is the drop that rare? Crazy.

    RNG is not the friend of everyone.

    I have not tried to go for it. So I have no idea. That is why I asked if it was rare.

    Rare? No. It was very competitive for the nodes in the beginning though. No worse than nirncrux for most people. Considerably better Id imagine.

    If Shadowfen were instanced to a single player, most would have had their lead in a very short time. The drop rate would be the same, but a player would have access to more than a single node.
  • Elsonso
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    Odovacar wrote: »
    Elsonso wrote: »
    HugoG92 wrote: »
    Do we have an ETA for this issue?

    They haven't even said they are going to change anything. All they have said is that they are going to take these comments into consideration when they review their drop-rate data.

    do you really thing they will even change anything? My guess is a big no.

    Nope. I think the design is deliberate and they won't change that. By the time they review the drop-rate data, figure out what it should be, get that into a patch, and deliver the patch, everyone who wants one of these Mythic items will already have one. At that point, there will be no need for the changes.

    That is what I think is going to come out of this.

    Oh. One more thing... the next time they need to drop leads, it will include resource node drops, just like this one. Why? Because this is what they wanted to do.
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