Do you desire to see entire Cyrodil and Imperial City remastered/overhauled to PVE zone specifically

Vanya

Serious thread.
I will try to make it simplest as possible. Personals reasons and reflection:
-Cyrodiil is absurdly gigantic. 10 times possibly than Craglorn if not more and it feels very empty most of the time.
-Cyrodiil is an iconic zone,center of Tamriel, largest as well. Molag's invasion has failed. Tis time to create separate post-Planemeld Cyrodiil with standard approach as other zones and in particular Imperial city Imagine Elder Scrolls online version with all interactable npc's,quests to undertake ,arena,etc
- A mess that must be fixed, the massive unused potential it has to offer, Its ridiculous to see war torn region,Blackwood chapter will add some of Southern parts, God coast is already here, add Colovia too.
-Minimally add Imperial City as PVE only friendly area to quest in peace without intervention of PVP'ers
-Cyrodiil deserves overhaul and should be connected to bordering lands, let us admit it was not a success , it has lot of issues and things have changed since 2014
- Eventual remastered Cyrodiil must be significantly less in size and more dense. I would say its not a waste of time or resources, There is not much room left to Tamriel to fill indeed.

Where do you stand? Don't want to see entire Cyrodiil and Imperial City using full Elder scrolls online potential to make it as typical PVE zone or leave it aside?
Honest opinions
P.S. I do not want players to misunderstand I should have added to keep current Cyrodil PVP to be accessible way tis and add standard PVE ONLY version to clear off.

Beardimus

No way

No.
The entire rest of the game is PvE. And IC is already hybrid, and there is zero reason why a clued up PvEer can't enjoy Cyrodiil.

RaddlemanNumber7

No way

War is war. PvP makes Cyrodil and IC feel like war zones. I really enjoy the unique flavour of those zones when questing there. It's something special that I wouldn't want to lose.

Vanya

Yes to both

I do not want players to misunderstand I should have added to keep current Cyrodil PVP to be accessible way tis and add standard PVE ONLY version to clear off.

Tensar

Yes to both

Yes.
In all DLC it look like the war is at the end, or it ended. That would be nice to have some maps in Cyrodiil so we can see how is the life after here after the banner war.

Still with the possibility to go in the old cyrodiil to do PvP.

hafgood

No way

[snip] Cyro and IC are meant to be PvP, just accept it and move on

[Edited to remove Baiting]

VaranisArano

As long as its a completely separate zone with completely different skyshards, fish, achievements, and all other rewards.

Seriously, if you want the rewards of a PvPvE zone, you've got to accept the risk of PvP in a PvPvE zone as intended. No, I'm not going to support a PVE safe zone to get the same rewards as PvPvE Cyrodiil with less risk.

SeaGtGruff

No way

I dislike the idea of remaking existing zones and thereby "robbing" newcomers of the opportunity to experience those zones in their original state. I realize that this has already happened to an extent, back when One Tamriel was introduced-- but that didn't completely change the essential nature of the existing zones the same way that changing Cyrodiil and the Imperial City from PvP zones to PvE zones would do.

Czeri

Yes to both

I think the current versions of the zones should stay as they are for the PvP crowd. However, having a second version that you can travel to via wayshrines instead of entering a campaign opens up the whole area to future development. Just think how many DLCs you could possibly fit into all that square footage!

Daemons_Bane

No way

hafgood wrote: »

Look, just stop with these absurd attempts to get a PvE Cyrodiil. Cyro and IC are meant to be PvP, just accept it and move on

Pvp'ers do the same thing honestly.. but I agree that the zones should stay PvP..

RPGplayer13579

Yes to both

I think it will happen eventually. We are finally getting companions. So just keep asking and eventually you may get a Post War PvE Cyrodiil and Imperial City.

JamieAubrey

Then I want EVERY PvE zone to have PVP

You're doing a Writ ? BAM, 24 man group rolls over you, GOODNIGHT

Doesn't work does it

Chips_Ahoy

No way

I am a 100% pve player, and I don't have any interst in Cyrodiil or Imperial City, I have never entered Cyrodiil or the Imperial City, I'm not even curious.

[snip]

Live and let die.

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Vanya

Yes to both

Chips_Ahoy wrote: »

I am a 100% pve player, and I don't have any interst in Cyrodiil or Imperial City, I have never entered Cyrodiil or the Imperial City, I'm not even curious.

[snip]

Live and let die.

[snip] Other players may have interest.Huge amount play The Elder Scrolls Online. [snip]
Remastered version of Cyrodiil is a great idea. So many posibilities.

[Edited to remove reference to removed content]

Dark_Lord_Kuro

Yes to both

Yes if both version remain accessible
Pvp via rhe campain menu pve via wayshrine/map

Alternatively
If we do not complete the first quest with the siege training we could be considered civilian
This would make us imune to pvp damage
Unable to do pvp damage
It would also lock us out of pvp reward like ap and telvar but not pve reward
Thre would be no way for us to go trough other faction gate (guard could arrest us on sight)

Larcomar

Yes to both

I'll say what I said in another post. I'd hate to see it go - I'm mainly a pvper - but it seems pretty obvious now that:

- Cyro is just broken. Theyve tried, but even when they've completely gutted groups, sets, healing etc they just cant get that many players in the same space shooting at each other and not have it lag. It's just the way it is.
- Even if they could fix it, the pvp'rs are going to keep complaining. I swear the first "fix class balance now" threads emerged like 5 mins after the proc test started. They're just going to demand more and more nerfs... Sorry, "fixes."
- Zeni are just going to wind up devoting more and more resources to what's essentially a lost cause. To satisfy a small minority of players who don't make them a lot of money.

At the end of the day Ive just come to accept that, while ESO's delivers big expansive zones with fun casual content in spades, and if I want to actually do serious pvp, I need to go elsewhere.

With that in mind, Id say turn Cyrodiil turned into a new Craglorn style, vet content zone - make the castles tumbled down ruins populated by the ghosts of former soldiers and stock the towns with dailies to discover the location of the lost scroll of x etc etc.

If there's anyone still left pvping after these latest "tests", stick an arena in alikr where they can go - preferably in which groups, procs, classes, skills and armor are banned so they can't complain - or, if there's alot of demand, keep IC as a pvp zone.

Way I figure it, that would kill two birds with one stone - creating balanced, lag free pvp no one could complain about, while delivering new vet overland content for the people who feel overland is too easy.

bluebird

I have TESIV Oblivion Nostalgia and cannot help myself

You should use bold or all caps for the part where you say 'Keep current cyro the way it is, add the new version as an addition not as a replacement' because clearly people are reacting without actually reading that part.

And yes, it would be nice to see Cyrodiil and IC developed the way they deserve instead of an empty horse riding simulator with a handful or fetch quests; and a Coldharbour/Hollow City copy daedric cesspit. I don't think ZOS will do it, (clearly, they don't even want to make a single Imperial Chapter from scratch and instead make the Oblivion year a year of Argonians and Deadlands), so I don't think they will develop it. I wish they did, (and honestly most building assets are already ingame so making Cyrodiil/IC 2.0 would be a lot easier than making a whole new zone), and I think it would have cool story and lore potential.

Orion_89

I have TESIV Oblivion Nostalgia and cannot help myself

This idea has come to me either a while ago, but I'd like to see Cyrodiil remaster in the future single games with a large scale and photorealistic graphics. But for ESO I wish we go further, maybe to the Akavir or what's left from Yokuda.

Vlad9425

No way

Cyrodiil is a PvP zone. End of. If you want to play in Cyrodiil PVE just boot up Oblivion.

RPGplayer13579

Yes to both

PvE Cyrodiil? No Way! You were saying the same thing about Companions not that long ago.

Lintashi

No way

Currently, there is absolutely no problem doing any pve content in cyro. Yes, the zone is big, but it is supposed to be this way. I would appreciate, if it was updated, maybe add some other pve'ish stuff, but it must remain as open pvp zone. Pve has all the other zones, leave this one. Or make a pvp faction, that could go pvp everywhere- like outlaws, ( with permanent crime status) so any player could be attacked by them regardless of zone and place, but guards would be always hostile to them.

MaisonNaevius

No way

Well ... Cyrodiil is a war zone. How much even the conflict is today less important and that territories have been reclaimed by the Empire, it is a gameplay concern that justifies maintaining a playable zone for PvP (and I am certainly not a PvP player I specify).

As for a leap back ... It's no. We always go forward, never backwards.

Starlight_Knight

Just Imperial City

The issue is not the pvp but the story behind the zones are out of continuity,
We defeated molag bal years ago yet eveytime i go into IC its like going back in time.
In fact evey zone is like that. you're not porting to place but also porting into a different time.
its all odd. by now IC should be being rebuilt and new stories should be introduced.
the could keep it PVP just make it relevent.

When IC first came out i thought it would be an evolving story line as it wouldnt make sense to leave it.
Why not just errect a monument as a hommage to this point in history and let the players actually become relevent and some will be able to say. "i remember that day"

hands0medevil

No way

NO WAY. I would pay again for Cyrodiil DLC if they fix it, revamp it and release it again as a DLC or something, because it has so much potential for good and competitive PVP content. But ZOS needs to care more about it. PVP content, mostly by only 1 twitch streamer, is what keeping this game alive on twitch (you know by who).

Sadly, outside of the peek hours, Cyrodiil is dead empty, especially on some campaigns and you can easily explore the map.

Also, PVP is a part of the end game. End game is about achieving more and more difficult content. I understand that getting skyshards hidden behind opposing factions gates is not easy enough, but this is where the fun is.

In ESO we have very easy content and more difficult content (vet trials for example, but Cyrodiil also). Nothing and nobody stops anyone from getting better. Yes, this is MMO and player progression is a part of the game. With time you are getting better items but also better skill as a player. And here comes the fun: you can play vs another more or less skilled player!:D This is why ESO and not other single player experience like Skyrim or Oblivion was created. Because TES players wanted to play with and/or against other players. Three Banners War and Cyrodiil fits the idea perfectly.

So what ZOS should do is truly FIX Cyrodiil, because online PVP games are on top, players want them. IC and Cyro both have great potential for amazing, competitive PVP with more viewers on twitch than 1k.

Vanya

Yes to both

bluebird wrote: »

You should use bold or all caps for the part where you say 'Keep current cyro the way it is, add the new version as an addition not as a replacement' because clearly people are reacting without actually reading that part.

And yes, it would be nice to see Cyrodiil and IC developed the way they deserve instead of an empty horse riding simulator with a handful or fetch quests; and a Coldharbour/Hollow City copy daedric cesspit. I don't think ZOS will do it, (clearly, they don't even want to make a single Imperial Chapter from scratch and instead make the Oblivion year a year of Argonians and Deadlands), so I don't think they will develop it. I wish they did, (and honestly most building assets are already ingame so making Cyrodiil/IC 2.0 would be a lot easier than making a whole new zone), and I think it would have cool story and lore potential.

Tis not my fault certain players are unwilling to read the entire post which would take maybe 30 seconds. I see no need to mark anything in bold or capital letters. I have no fault or blame of someone's eventual laziness. All what is stated is there clearly. Its not an essay you will be reading. What is strange why people will get "wild" over anything on forums in imaginary virtual world

magnusthorek

I have TESIV Oblivion Nostalgia and cannot help myself

I'd like to have something like Oblivion, but not as big as in Oblivion.

In TESIV Cyrodiil was gigantic but very empty. And I dare say it's even bigger here, but I'd like to have at least one instance to travel to Bruma and see the Chapel of the Eight (I believe it was there, sorry if memory doesn't serve me), maybe have a glimpse of the other cities (Anvil, Bravil, Cheydinhal, Chorrol, Kvatch, Leyawiin, Skingrad) and how they interact with ESO's Cyrodiil (maybe hinting future expansions, since we already have Anvil and Kvatch). And the Milegates could, in this instance only, be really closed to those that didn't play Cadwell's Silver and Gold, incentivizing players to actually go back and do such (I bet now ignored) part of the game.

Quests are all around already for a mini TESIV (and Dagon is knocking on our door already). I don't know, just some ideas...

relentless_turnip

No way

There are more than enough pve zones. PvP can have 2 without the constant threads requesting they too are transformed into PVE zones.

Imagine if I made threads requesting deshan to be remade into a PvP zone. I don't understand why the authors of these threads don't see how their request is totally selfish.

Ryath_Waylander

No way

VaranisArano wrote: »

As long as its a completely separate zone with completely different skyshards, fish, achievements, and all other rewards.

Seriously, if you want the rewards of a PvPvE zone, you've got to accept the risk of PvP in a PvPvE zone as intended. No, I'm not going to support a PVE safe zone to get the same rewards as PvPvE Cyrodiil with less risk.

This! I'm a pve player and even I'm tired of these proposals! [snip] The rest of tamriel is huge. I haven't been able to finish all the content in 5 years of playing. Cyrodiil barely looks like the Cyrodiil I enjoyed in Oblivion.

Even if you keep current pvp Cyrodiil and add a pve Cyrodil zone, you will slowly bleed pvp Cyrodiil to death. Many pvp players are ex and dual pve players that encounter pvp there and learn to like it. If pve players have a pure pve option, they will never set foot in pvp and learn to like it.

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Lady_Scorp72

No way

I loved Oblivion and still play it sometimes. I too wish Cyro and IC were fully fleshed out PvE zones and that they'd chosen a different part of the map for PvP, but now that they're established I feel that they should remain PvP only zones. To me having PvE only versions of these zones would be odd, even if they're totally revamped to be different, and I'd rather see them focus on improving PvP and developing other areas of Tamriel. There's so much potential for where they could go, and I guess you could say that I'm ready to let go of some of my nostalgia.

However, I mainly voted no based on my belief that if they did decide to give PvErs this option, at most they'd create parallel PvE only campaigns, which I believe would hurt the PvP population. If I think back to when I was afraid to try Cyrodiil/IC, had there been a way to do all the story content without any PvP, I would have opted for that and been done with it. I'd have never known what I was missing, which would have been a shame. It is a unique part of ESO and deserves to have its own special zones.

So, while I do understand why some people want a PvE option, I'll respectfully disagree. I'd much rather see the devs invest their time and effort improving what we have (yes, I'm hopeful there will be a way to improve performance), and also bringing us areas of Tamriel we haven't been to in modern ES games.

nukk3r

Just Imperial City

Just IC. It should be either pure PvP without any PvE activities or vice versa. The whole idea of PvPvE zone is flawed and generates animosity among players. Make IC into a battle royale zone, reward telvars for the time spent alive and/or make them obtainable via caches scattered around the city (you'll still lose half of them on your death). Or make it into another quest hub with much stronger bosses (like vet trial bosses) and make them scheduled world events.

fred4

No way

I'm a PvPer. What do you expect me to say?