Give us a Barbershop, and Hide Shoulders options

Araneae6537

xaraan wrote: »

I don't see a barber shop happening, though it would be nice. They get crowns from that and many already have all the hairstyles from basic stuff unlocked. But it wouldn't hurt my feelings to see a feature like that added.

The hide shoulders thing however, idk. Fine if they do it, but if they just added a few more options to shoulders it would fix it just the same. Like adding a shoulder band part of an armor set like you'd picture on a barbarian or whatever that would either be covered over by bulky armor and hidden or blend in or just look like simple bands on naked from waste up looks like the sai sahan jack.

So that's what bugs me: it wouldn't even take a lot of work to fix - just a simple piece of armor added to game and not a whole system created for hiding shoulders. And bam, problem gone. But no, still a problem after all these years of people pointing out the problem.

Wasn’t there the option in beta to hide any armor slot? I wan’t there, so my information certainly could be mistaken, but if not, surely this already created feature would be relatively easy to implement, no?

As for your suggestion, while I am always in favor of more options (on that note I’d be thrilled to see scarves and even cloaks as “shoulder” style options), I don’t think it would be a substitute for the ability to hide shoulders. For instance, my character wearing the Pyandonean light armor chestpiece has his arms bare except for a few bands and I wish that I could keep that appearance even fully armored. The addition of shoulder piece bands may well clip, clutter, or otherwise detract. But if for some reason making additional slots hideable is not an option, then there should be a “naked” style that can be equipped! GW2 has a lot more hideable slots than ESO, but not feet, and among the more expensive items in the game are “bare feet” armor styles!

SilverBride

idk wrote: »

It is probably easy for someone who did not buy these packs to compare giving all this away for free to a mere sale. I doubt Zos is going to tell players who subscribe and have purchased these items that they care so little for their patronage to the crown store that they are giving everyone else access to these items for free.

I never once said this should be free. They should charge each time you change your hair style or color just like they do now for changing your outfit.

Players would still have the choice to purchase the cosmetic packs and change their styles as often as they want for free. And color change could be added to these packs at no additional charge. But those who don't make frequent changes could choose to just pay for each change instead of investing in the packs.

Daemons_Bane

Raideen wrote: »

ZOS should do the non greedy thing and make changing skin, hair color cost gold in game as part of a barbershop, ESPECIALLY if you are ESO+.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in game for 12+ years and only for the cost of gold. There is no reason for such a basic game quality of life/mechanic to NOT exist for gold.

Charging real life money on top of a retail box, on top of a sub, on top of 25 dollar mounts and hundred dollar homes is ridiculous.

I like that they don't just copy every other title.. I like that you can't just alter your every physical trait all the time..

Raideen

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

ZOS should do the non greedy thing and make changing skin, hair color cost gold in game as part of a barbershop, ESPECIALLY if you are ESO+.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in game for 12+ years and only for the cost of gold. There is no reason for such a basic game quality of life/mechanic to NOT exist for gold.

Charging real life money on top of a retail box, on top of a sub, on top of 25 dollar mounts and hundred dollar homes is ridiculous.

I like that they don't just copy every other title.. I like that you can't just alter your every physical trait all the time..

1. Skin color and hair color are not "every physical trait".
2. This has nothing to do with copying from another game because:
A. It already exists in the form of tokens, which I might add are INSANELY over priced.
B. Changing a characters features is a basic feature that the vast majority of players enjoy using in games, especially
RPG's, especially especially MMORPG's.

idk

Sengra wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Sengra wrote: »

I don't even know why this wasn't included in the ESO+ package, when every subscription game I know lets you do this for ingame currency.

This would make sense if Zos has not already started selling packages of cosmetics. Many of us have all three major cosmetic packages and many have bought specific styles as well. Companies tend to not refund significant sums of money when there is not a problem. That does not sit well with the boss. As such it is hard to undo that without telling your most loyal subscribers that they wasted their crowns.

Also, not every company that has a subscription makes such things free or available via in-game currency to its subscribers.

I am not arguing against the idea as I think it would have been great for us if Zos went this way to start with. I am just suggesting this will not happen now for very valid reasons.

Why would they have to refund anything? I was subscribed for almost the full first year after realease, and I don't know that it was possible to refund that sub fee afterwards (we were given crowns instead, you might argue, but still). Games change their monetization models all the time. And ZOS seems to have no problem charging people for things like werewolf/vampire bites out of fear of refunds (when players find out you can get them ingame for free).

I am not sure why you are talking about refunding the cost of subscription over this as it is not suggesting zos change it's business model again. That is irrelevant.

The refund issue would clearly pertain to the specific purchases of the various cosmetic packages from the crown store. It would not be a smart decision for Zos to tell all those players who purchased those packages, thanks for the money and we are going to show our appreciation for supporting the crown store by giving those things to everyone for free.

The WW example is backward. The bite was always available for free. In fact, it was available for free before the crown store really existed. So Zos merely gave an option for those who did not want to be bothered to ask someone for a bite.

Daemons_Bane

Raideen wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

ZOS should do the non greedy thing and make changing skin, hair color cost gold in game as part of a barbershop, ESPECIALLY if you are ESO+.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in game for 12+ years and only for the cost of gold. There is no reason for such a basic game quality of life/mechanic to NOT exist for gold.

Charging real life money on top of a retail box, on top of a sub, on top of 25 dollar mounts and hundred dollar homes is ridiculous.

I like that they don't just copy every other title.. I like that you can't just alter your every physical trait all the time..

1. Skin color and hair color are not "every physical trait".
2. This has nothing to do with copying from another game because:
A. It already exists in the form of tokens, which I might add are INSANELY over priced.
B. Changing a characters features is a basic feature that the vast majority of players enjoy using in games, especially
RPG's, especially especially MMORPG's.

1: But they are a physical trait no.?
2: Yes it exists, but not in a form which let's you just do it all the time, just because you feel like it.. unless you have lots of money of course.. it's intended to make sure you consider it first.. And just because it's a standard feature in some games, does not mean it should be so in every game

Raideen

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

ZOS should do the non greedy thing and make changing skin, hair color cost gold in game as part of a barbershop, ESPECIALLY if you are ESO+.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in game for 12+ years and only for the cost of gold. There is no reason for such a basic game quality of life/mechanic to NOT exist for gold.

Charging real life money on top of a retail box, on top of a sub, on top of 25 dollar mounts and hundred dollar homes is ridiculous.

I like that they don't just copy every other title.. I like that you can't just alter your every physical trait all the time..

1. Skin color and hair color are not "every physical trait".
2. This has nothing to do with copying from another game because:
A. It already exists in the form of tokens, which I might add are INSANELY over priced.
B. Changing a characters features is a basic feature that the vast majority of players enjoy using in games, especially
RPG's, especially especially MMORPG's.

1: But they are a physical trait no.?
2: Yes it exists, but not in a form which let's you just do it all the time, just because you feel like it.. unless you have lots of money of course.. it's intended to make sure you consider it first.. And just because it's a standard feature in some games, does not mean it should be so in every game

1. In your hyperbole you said "every single trait", I simply pointed out that in my post I did not ask for "every single trait", which renders your point moot.
2. How can you be so sure its " intended to make sure you consider it first"? Do you have insight to the internals of the games development you are not sharing with us? Because otherwise its just your opinion. But that aside, some features that are in other games (forget the fact that I have already addressed that it DOES exist in this game), should 100% be included in every game of the genre. As games progress certain aspects become a necessity. For example. Purple being used for epic, blue being used for superior, green for being used as normal, white being used as basic gear. Why are you not up in arms that ESO copied other MMO's with this system? Is it perhaps because what we are discussing here is that ZOS should not be charging for basic character re-customization?

idk

SilverBride wrote: »

idk wrote: »

It is probably easy for someone who did not buy these packs to compare giving all this away for free to a mere sale. I doubt Zos is going to tell players who subscribe and have purchased these items that they care so little for their patronage to the crown store that they are giving everyone else access to these items for free.

I never once said this should be free. They should charge each time you change your hair style or color just like they do now for changing your outfit.

Players would still have the choice to purchase the cosmetic packs and change their styles as often as they want for free. And color change could be added to these packs at no additional charge. But those who don't make frequent changes could choose to just pay for each change instead of investing in the packs.

So you would be willing to spend 100 crowns to change your hair to one of the base styles 200 crowns for one of the special styles (since they do cost more to buy) plus another 100 crowns to change your hair color?

If that is what you are saying you clearly missed my first post in this thread. That is what I would have preferred and I did suggest as much when Zos was adding the appearance change to the game.

Daemons_Bane

Raideen wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

ZOS should do the non greedy thing and make changing skin, hair color cost gold in game as part of a barbershop, ESPECIALLY if you are ESO+.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in game for 12+ years and only for the cost of gold. There is no reason for such a basic game quality of life/mechanic to NOT exist for gold.

Charging real life money on top of a retail box, on top of a sub, on top of 25 dollar mounts and hundred dollar homes is ridiculous.

I like that they don't just copy every other title.. I like that you can't just alter your every physical trait all the time..

1. Skin color and hair color are not "every physical trait".
2. This has nothing to do with copying from another game because:
A. It already exists in the form of tokens, which I might add are INSANELY over priced.
B. Changing a characters features is a basic feature that the vast majority of players enjoy using in games, especially
RPG's, especially especially MMORPG's.

1: But they are a physical trait no.?
2: Yes it exists, but not in a form which let's you just do it all the time, just because you feel like it.. unless you have lots of money of course.. it's intended to make sure you consider it first.. And just because it's a standard feature in some games, does not mean it should be so in every game

1. In your hyperbole you said "every single trait", I simply pointed out that in my post I did not ask for "every single trait", which renders your point moot.
2. How can you be so sure its " intended to make sure you consider it first"? Do you have insight to the internals of the games development you are not sharing with us? Because otherwise its just your opinion. But that aside, some features that are in other games (forget the fact that I have already addressed that it DOES exist in this game), should 100% be included in every game of the genre. As games progress certain aspects become a necessity. For example. Purple being used for epic, blue being used for superior, green for being used as normal, white being used as basic gear. Why are you not up in arms that ESO copied other MMO's with this system? Is it perhaps because what we are discussing here is that ZOS should not be charging for basic character re-customization?

I don't want you to be able to freely change everything.. I've said fine for hair, makeup and such, but not stuff like skin color, height, and major things like that..

I think we all argue based on our opinions.? So mine is as valid as yours I would say.. And yes, some system a are a necessity, but not this one.. And no, I have absolutely 0 problems with the colouring of loot/gear.. And regarding charging for it or not, I already made my opinion on that clear

[Edit to remove bait]

SammyKhajit

This one would like style parlours in Tamerial. Unless everyone is an expert at cutting one’s own hairs and furs (or scale/feather care for our Argonian friend), it seems weird not to have any hairdressers and the like in towns and cities.

Starlock

SammyKhajit wrote: »

This one would like style parlours in Tamerial. Unless everyone is an expert at cutting one’s own hairs and furs (or scale/feather care for our Argonian friend), it seems weird not to have any hairdressers and the like in towns and cities.

It's also weird that the stablemasters don't actually sell the mounts that are literally present in their stables. They don't do it for the same reason we don't have any barbers in Tamriel.

RealJobasha

Here to bump this and second it. Hairs can be cut and styled and dyed in real life but no one on tamriel can figure out how to open up a barber shop? Only way is to break the 4th wall and commune with the GameGods by spending 10 dollars to make one minor change one time to one single character. I also hate 99% of the shoulder options in this game and I'd prefer to just toggle them off in the outfit station. Molag Kena and Order of the Hour medium are the only ones I can bare to use. Had to spend 3mil on the Kena ones and it turns out that it just hovers over my shoulder and clips into every helmet/hood in the game on female characters.

SammyKhajit

Starlock wrote: »

SammyKhajit wrote: »

This one would like style parlours in Tamerial. Unless everyone is an expert at cutting one’s own hairs and furs (or scale/feather care for our Argonian friend), it seems weird not to have any hairdressers and the like in towns and cities.

It's also weird that the stablemasters don't actually sell the mounts that are literally present in their stables. They don't do it for the same reason we don't have any barbers in Tamriel.

Yes! This one was so excited to see the wolf mount at the Kvatch stable, only to learn it’s “display model only”.

idk

Starlock wrote: »

SammyKhajit wrote: »

This one would like style parlours in Tamerial. Unless everyone is an expert at cutting one’s own hairs and furs (or scale/feather care for our Argonian friend), it seems weird not to have any hairdressers and the like in towns and cities.

It's also weird that the stablemasters don't actually sell the mounts that are literally present in their stables. They don't do it for the same reason we don't have any barbers in Tamriel.

This is probably more of a function that we only had 4 mount in-game when it launched, basic, speed, stamina, and bag space.

SilverBride

idk wrote: »

So you would be willing to spend 100 crowns to change your hair to one of the base styles 200 crowns for one of the special styles (since they do cost more to buy) plus another 100 crowns to change your hair color

No, I wouldn't. I would be willing to pay gold to change my hair style and/or color.

They could only include the basic styles so you would still have to purchase the special styles if you want those. And as I said above, you would still have the choice to purchase the cosmetic packs and have unlimited free style changes. But for players who only want an occasional change, a barbershop would make more sense.

Plus players may decide they like being able to change their hair and end up buying the cosmetic packs for crowns later after all.

Khajiitihaswares

Watching people argue over height changes and stuff... All I want to do is change my hair colors, fur pattern about it. Color wise I have been happy since day one on my main account and main char. :d.

ZoS Barbershop would be EPIC! Be such a QOL :d.

SammyKhajit wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

SammyKhajit wrote: »

This one would like style parlours in Tamerial. Unless everyone is an expert at cutting one’s own hairs and furs (or scale/feather care for our Argonian friend), it seems weird not to have any hairdressers and the like in towns and cities.

It's also weird that the stablemasters don't actually sell the mounts that are literally present in their stables. They don't do it for the same reason we don't have any barbers in Tamriel.

Yes! This one was so excited to see the wolf mount at the Kvatch stable, only to learn it’s “display model only”.

Mmm. Yeah ZoS Places all those mounts in crown store. I am surprised that each faction does not have a plain jane mount that relates to their faction. Kinda sad they monotized heck out that system. Barely any mounts you earn in game at that. If we do not count reskinning silly deer thing.

Minyassa

It always struck me as incredibly greedy for them to charge crowns for an appearance change token when it would be a good gold sink to put in a barbershop and let us switch between default hairstyles, crown hairstyles we've unlocked in the store, and basic coloring options. Default racial colors already unlocked, and maybe let us unlock other races for all characters in the crown store. And they could add new hair dyes to unlock in the crown store as well. I would absolutely pay crowns to dye an Altmer's hair black, and from all the comments over the years I'm pretty sure a lot of others would too.

idk

SilverBride wrote: »

idk wrote: »

So you would be willing to spend 100 crowns to change your hair to one of the base styles 200 crowns for one of the special styles (since they do cost more to buy) plus another 100 crowns to change your hair color

No, I wouldn't. I would be willing to pay gold to change my hair style and/or color.

They could only include the basic styles so you would still have to purchase the special styles if you want those. And as I said above, you would still have the choice to purchase the cosmetic packs and have unlimited free style changes. But for players who only want an occasional change, a barbershop would make more sense.

Plus players may decide they like being able to change their hair and end up buying the cosmetic packs for crowns later after all.

So we are back to giving players something for free that other players have specifically paid for. (in-game gold is free).

Zos is less likely to start giving these things away for free when they can sell them. Customers tend to get a little upset when companies do such things which is why companies do not consider it a wise move.

The idea I had suggested at the start, that you edited out the related comment, would be much more likely. Considering subscribers do get a small crown stipend it would mean subscribers would not have to pay extra unless they chose to.

Khajiitihaswares

idk wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

idk wrote: »

So you would be willing to spend 100 crowns to change your hair to one of the base styles 200 crowns for one of the special styles (since they do cost more to buy) plus another 100 crowns to change your hair color

No, I wouldn't. I would be willing to pay gold to change my hair style and/or color.

They could only include the basic styles so you would still have to purchase the special styles if you want those. And as I said above, you would still have the choice to purchase the cosmetic packs and have unlimited free style changes. But for players who only want an occasional change, a barbershop would make more sense.

Plus players may decide they like being able to change their hair and end up buying the cosmetic packs for crowns later after all.

So we are back to giving players something for free that other players have specifically paid for. (in-game gold is free).

Zos is less likely to start giving these things away for free when they can sell them. Customers tend to get a little upset when companies do such things which is why companies do not consider it a wise move.

The idea I had suggested at the start, that you edited out the related comment, would be much more likely. Considering subscribers do get a small crown stipend it would mean subscribers would not have to pay extra unless they chose to.

Makes no sense... Game was sub based at start then went buy to play. Soooo they could do it. I see no issue with barbershop as ESO+ payer on few accounts to have a barbershop. Like it isn't making you die over it.

I have never spent a dime in crownstore... I can legit trade gold for crowns so that point is moot. Barbershop just saves me a few steps.

Mike0987

Sure, AFTER they make the home based stable master.

Pixiepumpkin

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

ZOS should do the non greedy thing and make changing skin, hair color cost gold in game as part of a barbershop, ESPECIALLY if you are ESO+.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in game for 12+ years and only for the cost of gold. There is no reason for such a basic game quality of life/mechanic to NOT exist for gold.

Charging real life money on top of a retail box, on top of a sub, on top of 25 dollar mounts and hundred dollar homes is ridiculous.

I like that they don't just copy every other title.. I like that you can't just alter your every physical trait all the time..

1. Skin color and hair color are not "every physical trait".
2. This has nothing to do with copying from another game because:
A. It already exists in the form of tokens, which I might add are INSANELY over priced.
B. Changing a characters features is a basic feature that the vast majority of players enjoy using in games, especially
RPG's, especially especially MMORPG's.

1: But they are a physical trait no.?
2: Yes it exists, but not in a form which let's you just do it all the time, just because you feel like it.. unless you have lots of money of course.. it's intended to make sure you consider it first.. And just because it's a standard feature in some games, does not mean it should be so in every game

1. In your hyperbole you said "every single trait", I simply pointed out that in my post I did not ask for "every single trait", which renders your point moot.
2. How can you be so sure its " intended to make sure you consider it first"? Do you have insight to the internals of the games development you are not sharing with us? Because otherwise its just your opinion. But that aside, some features that are in other games (forget the fact that I have already addressed that it DOES exist in this game), should 100% be included in every game of the genre. As games progress certain aspects become a necessity. For example. Purple being used for epic, blue being used for superior, green for being used as normal, white being used as basic gear. Why are you not up in arms that ESO copied other MMO's with this system? Is it perhaps because what we are discussing here is that ZOS should not be charging for basic character re-customization?

I don't want you to be able to freely change everything.. I've said fine for hair, makeup and such, but not stuff like skin color, height, and major things like that..

I think we all argue based on our opinions.? So mine is as valid as yours I would say.. And yes, some system a are a necessity, but not this one.. And no, I have absolutely 0 problems with the colouring of loot/gear.. And regarding charging for it or not, I already made my opinion on that clear

raiden is right, skin color and hair color should be changed with gold. i like my characters to get tan if they dont have lots of clothes on or are in summer areas and i like my characters to get pale and white whne they wear lots of clothes and are in winter areas.

Raideen

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

ZOS should do the non greedy thing and make changing skin, hair color cost gold in game as part of a barbershop, ESPECIALLY if you are ESO+.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in game for 12+ years and only for the cost of gold. There is no reason for such a basic game quality of life/mechanic to NOT exist for gold.

Charging real life money on top of a retail box, on top of a sub, on top of 25 dollar mounts and hundred dollar homes is ridiculous.

I like that they don't just copy every other title.. I like that you can't just alter your every physical trait all the time..

1. Skin color and hair color are not "every physical trait".
2. This has nothing to do with copying from another game because:
A. It already exists in the form of tokens, which I might add are INSANELY over priced.
B. Changing a characters features is a basic feature that the vast majority of players enjoy using in games, especially
RPG's, especially especially MMORPG's.

1: But they are a physical trait no.?
2: Yes it exists, but not in a form which let's you just do it all the time, just because you feel like it.. unless you have lots of money of course.. it's intended to make sure you consider it first.. And just because it's a standard feature in some games, does not mean it should be so in every game

1. In your hyperbole you said "every single trait", I simply pointed out that in my post I did not ask for "every single trait", which renders your point moot.
2. How can you be so sure its " intended to make sure you consider it first"? Do you have insight to the internals of the games development you are not sharing with us? Because otherwise its just your opinion. But that aside, some features that are in other games (forget the fact that I have already addressed that it DOES exist in this game), should 100% be included in every game of the genre. As games progress certain aspects become a necessity. For example. Purple being used for epic, blue being used for superior, green for being used as normal, white being used as basic gear. Why are you not up in arms that ESO copied other MMO's with this system? Is it perhaps because what we are discussing here is that ZOS should not be charging for basic character re-customization?

I don't want you to be able to freely change everything.. I've said fine for hair, makeup and such, but not stuff like skin color, height, and major things like that..

I think we all argue based on our opinions.? So mine is as valid as yours I would say.. And yes, some system a are a necessity, but not this one.. And no, I have absolutely 0 problems with the colouring of loot/gear.. And regarding charging for it or not, I already made my opinion on that clear

I understand your points perfectly, what I have been attempting to convey to you is that I never suggested that we be able to change everything, in fact I said skin color and hair color, thats it.

As far as arguing opinions. I am not basing my post on my opinion, but rather industry standards and what players expect or desire in this type of game, which is proven by the amount of people supporting the idea of a barber shop.

Simply put, not having a barber shop makes no sense in a game with the kind of customization this game has. Players should not have to fork out $20.00 to change their characters appearance, ESPECIALLY in regards to hair or skin color, which is all I have suggested.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in their game for over 12 years and it never once affected their bottom line. I would argue that in fact it helped with player retention. ZOS should consider the same.

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SilverBride

Raideen wrote: »

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in their game for over 12 years and it never once affected their bottom line. I would argue that in fact it helped with player retention. ZOS should consider the same.

If anything this would bring in more customers. People love their characters, and love being able to make them their own. And while they may love how they looked when they created them 7 years ago, they are ready for a change.

You wouldn't keep the same hairstyle and clothing on for years, and never change them. And your character is an extension of you.

Daemons_Bane

SilverBride wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in their game for over 12 years and it never once affected their bottom line. I would argue that in fact it helped with player retention. ZOS should consider the same.

If anything this would bring in more customers. People love their characters, and love being able to make them their own. And while they may love how they looked when they created them 7 years ago, they are ready for a change.

You wouldn't keep the same hairstyle and clothing on for years, and never change them. And your character is an extension of you.

I've had the same hairstyle since 2001

SilverBride

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in their game for over 12 years and it never once affected their bottom line. I would argue that in fact it helped with player retention. ZOS should consider the same.

If anything this would bring in more customers. People love their characters, and love being able to make them their own. And while they may love how they looked when they created them 7 years ago, they are ready for a change.

You wouldn't keep the same hairstyle and clothing on for years, and never change them. And your character is an extension of you.

I've had the same hairstyle since 2001

I won't ask.

But back to topic, I think change is good for a lot of people, and keeps us interested. The way it is now it's way too expensive to spend 1000 crowns when all you want to do is change your hair color.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Raideen wrote: »

ZOS should do the non greedy thing and make changing skin, hair color cost gold in game as part of a barbershop, ESPECIALLY if you are ESO+.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in game for 12+ years and only for the cost of gold. There is no reason for such a basic game quality of life/mechanic to NOT exist for gold.

Charging real life money on top of a retail box, on top of a sub, on top of 25 dollar mounts and hundred dollar homes is ridiculous.

WoW doesn't sell hairstyles and other appearance cosmetics seperately though. Before they added the barber you had to buy an appearance change for the tiniest thing, like changing hair. In ESO you can change hair and other things willy nilly if you've them unlocked.

idk

Khajiitihaswares wrote: »

idk wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

idk wrote: »

So you would be willing to spend 100 crowns to change your hair to one of the base styles 200 crowns for one of the special styles (since they do cost more to buy) plus another 100 crowns to change your hair color

No, I wouldn't. I would be willing to pay gold to change my hair style and/or color.

They could only include the basic styles so you would still have to purchase the special styles if you want those. And as I said above, you would still have the choice to purchase the cosmetic packs and have unlimited free style changes. But for players who only want an occasional change, a barbershop would make more sense.

Plus players may decide they like being able to change their hair and end up buying the cosmetic packs for crowns later after all.

So we are back to giving players something for free that other players have specifically paid for. (in-game gold is free).

Zos is less likely to start giving these things away for free when they can sell them. Customers tend to get a little upset when companies do such things which is why companies do not consider it a wise move.

The idea I had suggested at the start, that you edited out the related comment, would be much more likely. Considering subscribers do get a small crown stipend it would mean subscribers would not have to pay extra unless they chose to.

Makes no sense... Game was sub based at start then went buy to play. Soooo they could do it. I see no issue with barbershop as ESO+ payer on few accounts to have a barbershop. Like it isn't making you die over it.

I have never spent a dime in crownstore... I can legit trade gold for crowns so that point is moot. Barbershop just saves me a few steps.

I understand, but it is not relevant that the game was subscription-based at launch and changed to B2P a year later. The cash shop came into existence after that change occurred. Also, for players that trade gold for crowns, someone is still buying the crowns so that is not an important argument for Zos to consider either because someone is buying crowns and someone is spending them.

The reality is, players who purchased the appearance items and packages would be significantly more upset with Zos if Zos offered the items for mere in-game gold than those who never got something that was never in-game, to begin with. That is why it is doubtful Zos would give seriousness to the idea. However, they could give serious thought to a barbershop that cost crowns as I had suggested earlier. In the end, Zos has not had problems attracting new players, and players will not choose or change games due to such a minor single issue.

DarcyMardin

I just want to change my characters’ hair color occasionally (like in real life). Oh yeah, and here’s another vote for hiding shoulders.

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NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Raideen wrote: »

ZOS should do the non greedy thing and make changing skin, hair color cost gold in game as part of a barbershop, ESPECIALLY if you are ESO+.

World of Warcraft has had a barbershop in game for 12+ years and only for the cost of gold. There is no reason for such a basic game quality of life/mechanic to NOT exist for gold.

Charging real life money on top of a retail box, on top of a sub, on top of 25 dollar mounts and hundred dollar homes is ridiculous.

WoW doesn't sell hairstyles and other appearance cosmetics seperately though. Before they added the barber you had to buy an appearance change for the tiniest thing, like changing hair. In ESO you can change hair and other things willy nilly if you've them unlocked.

Thank you for bringing this insight to the conversation.